" Sasuke is a Slacker."

[Turson]

Itachi trains and is like a perfectionist. He's encountered people using genjutsu sasuke on the other hand hasnt underwent genjutsu other than his brother

Sasuke did see through illusion of Shee, and pwned him with his own Genjutsu later. Also, he didnt have problems with standard Itachis illusions. Thats why I believe with EMS he wouldnt have much problems with Tsukiyomi.

 

[psayian]

Sasuke did see through illusion of Shee, and pwned him with his own Genjutsu later. Also, he didnt have problems with standard Itachis illusions. Thats why I believe with EMS he wouldnt have much problems with Tsukiyomi.

YEs, but he saw through it barely with not substantial time to react, and that genjutsu wasnt even strong. He needed them to block for him cuz he was to slow reading it and i have anothe place where he is bad at seeing genjutsu. he should of saw the chakra discoloration and reacted like deidara's nano bombs he still got blinded and the genjutus worked its just like he said ahh it genjutsu he still got hit with it because they were on top of it and suigetsu and jugo blocked in random locations and plot no jutsu saved him because they couldnt even see.

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for both links read pages 5-7 hes bad at seeing and reacting. hes just like its genjutsu but can do anything about it or reverse it.

 

[psayian]

YEs, but he saw through it barely with not substantial time to react, and that genjutsu wasnt even strong. He needed them to block for him cuz he was to slow reading it and i have anothe place where he is bad at seeing genjutsu. he should of saw the chakra discoloration and reacted like deidara's nano bombs he still got blinded and the genjutus worked its just like he said ahh it genjutsu he still got hit with it because they were on top of it and suigetsu and jugo blocked in random locations and plot no jutsu saved him because they couldnt even see.

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for both links read pages 5-7 hes bad at seeing and reacting. hes just like its genjutsu but can do anything about it or reverse it.

+ he did have problem with itachi's genjutsu

the first time he put a sword of itachi and itachi turned to crows
then he did chidori blade in his chair was fake itachi
he turned around chidori blade again missed itachi hit the wall

he has problem seeing through genjutsu he has no genjutsu defense

 

[Turson]

YEs, but he saw through it barely with not substantial time to react, and that genjutsu wasnt even strong. He needed them to block for him cuz he was to slow reading it and i have anothe place where he is bad at seeing genjutsu. he should of saw the chakra discoloration and reacted like deidara's nano bombs he still got blinded and the genjutus worked its just like he said ahh it genjutsu he still got hit with it because they were on top of it and suigetsu and jugo blocked in random locations and plot no jutsu saved him because they couldnt even see.

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for both links read pages 5-7 hes bad at seeing and reacting. hes just like its genjutsu but can do anything about it or reverse it.

Im not saying that he wouldnt be affected by Tsukiyomi at all, only that he would be able to break it like he did with other Genjutsus. Even Itachi was affected by illusion that Kurenai casted on him.

+ he did have problem with itachi's genjutsu

the first time he put a sword of itachi and itachi turned to crows
then he did chidori blade in his chair was fake itachi
he turned around chidori blade again missed itachi hit the wall

he has problem seeing through genjutsu he has no genjutsu defense

Actually, they were both seeing through each other Genjutsus. No one had clear advantage in that moment.

 

[psayian]

Im not saying that he wouldnt be affected by Tsukiyomi at all, only that he would be able to break it like he did with other Genjutsus. Even Itachi was affected by illusion that Kurenai casted on him.

He wasnt affected by the genjutsu he admired her for her skill to be able to put him in it but he had a defense and reversed it on her

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He was technically never even in it by sharingan's caliber he should of used C's tech back on team raikage.

 

[psayian]

Im not saying that he wouldnt be affected by Tsukiyomi at all, only that he would be able to break it like he did with other Genjutsus. Even Itachi was affected by illusion that Kurenai casted on him.


Actually, they were both seeing through each other Genjutsus. No one had clear advantage in that moment.

Itachi at his end of all the genjutsu before all the tsukiyomi was still sitting in his chair he wasn't even really attacking, sasuke attacked him he was just defending and he wasted minimal chakra and sasuke used alot of lightning tech's which we knew at that point he didnt have 2 much chakra.

 

[psayian]

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Sasuke attacked itachi first.

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him fooling him with a shadow clone sasuke cant even see regular combat and a shadow clone for a real u think he can see through genjutsu. And he didnt even realize hes been in genjutsu the whole time.

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He hits him in his genjutsu so sasuke didnt see through his genjutsu.
Sasuke in the genjutsu

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. Not seeing through it.

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Oro's power breaking tsukyiomi not sasuke he didnt see thorugh anything oro's power broke his genjutsu.

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Sasuke feeling its effects

 

[XXKillThemAllxX]

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[psayian]

Actually, Sasuke didnt waste any chakra at all. This was all genjutsu fight, in reality they were standing in place. ->

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It was the same with CS, Sasuke didnt use that in reality.

Read my above post mine is in the chapter afterwards in the later genjutsu fight where sasuke failed. and did get hit with itachi's genjutsu and he used chidori many times in the chapter in mine.

 

[Turson]

Itachi at his end of all the genjutsu before all the tsukiyomi was still sitting in his chair he wasn't even really attacking, sasuke attacked him he was just defending and he wasted minimal chakra and sasuke used alot of lightning tech's which we knew at that point he didnt have 2 much chakra.

Actually, Sasuke didnt waste any chakra at all. This was all genjutsu fight, in reality they were standing in place. ->

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It was the same with CS, Sasuke didnt use that in reality... all of that was pure Genjutsu fight.

 

[Baka Sennin]

let me break it down for you his sharingan didnt break tsukiyomi. He has curse mark thats like having oro living inside u oro's chakra which is a boost of ur own which is like him flowing his chakra into you causing the genjutsu to break the cm broke the tsukiyomi not sasuke's eyes. When sasuke came to oro he came for power, and oro gave sasuke his power and a boost to his chakra with his chakra in the form of the seal hes drawing on oro's power which isn't his nor is it his chakra he just houses some of oro's chakra allowing him to break genjutsu.

no sir, all that fight was in a genjutsu battle, in reality neither sasuke nor itachi had moved an inch, used no ninjutsu or curse seals. it was a pure sharingan genjutsu battle, and once itachi saw that even tsukuyomi doesn't have an effect on sasuke, it was pointless to continue.

 

[Turson]

Read my above post mine is in the chapter afterwards in the later genjutsu fight where sasuke failed. and did get hit with itachi's genjutsu and he used chidori many times in the chapter in mine.

Look at this.

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-> and look at where they were standing afterwards. Everything between was Genjutsu battle. See all those Shurikens?

 

[psayian]

Look at this.

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-> and look at where they were standing afterwards. Everything between was Genjutsu battle. See all those Shurikens?

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Sasuke using lightning in the genjutsu. ANd yes its a pure genjutsu fight but sasuke didnt see through anything. He took everything and the only reason he broke it was because of the cm2 he was mentally more tired, genjutsu is a attack or the victims mentality and even in that itachi was owning him genjutsu via genjutsu and he still lost and he still suffered the affects, itachi just suffered the affect of tsukyiomi it wasnt countered like the way he countered sasuke's genjutsu. And he through shuriken in hte genjutsu as well when he started it in.

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And it was a genjutsu he was in when he threw all fighting a shadow clone still in a genjutsu.

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He just allowed sasuke to see his shadow clone making it think its itachi allowing him to tire himself out so itachi could use kunai to kill him.

But u see as u say it was him seeing through C's tech when he saw it was genjutsu it was all he could do say it was genjutsu but still got hit with the affect here. He didnt even know here he was in genjutsu till prob he saw crows.

 

[psayian]

Look at this.

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-> and look at where they were standing afterwards. Everything between was Genjutsu battle. See all those Shurikens?

Plus it takes a toll on the casters mind to use genjutsu its mentally draining to use these techs. and it makes the user feel like they have been hit with these techs. but still itachi has been shown to use genjutsu counters and sasuke has never used a genjutsu counter in the manga he just rolls with the genjutsu taking it and hopefully coming out ok.

 

[Turson]

Sasuke using lightning in the genjutsu.

And therefore it didnt happen, no chakra waste. There were no Chidoris, no Cursed Seal activation.

But u see as u say it was him seeing through C's tech when he saw it was genjutsu it was all he could do say it was genjutsu but still got hit with the affect here. He didnt even know here he was in genjutsu till prob he saw crows.

Dude, Itachi was fighting with MS and in Tsukiyomi, it was his realm and Sasuke only had three tomoe Sharingan. Currently Sasuke has EMS, that makes huge difference.

 

[Prince Charles]

somewhat true tsunade even saids sasuke may have took drugs and etc to from orochimaru

 

[psayian]

And therefore it didnt happen, no chakra waste. There were no Chidoris, no Cursed Seal activation.

Dude, Itachi was fighting with MS and in Tsukiyomi, it was his realm and Sasuke only had three tomoe Sharingan. Currently Sasuke has EMS, that makes huge difference.

Thats not how genjutsu works. Genjutsu are yin release techniques the more elaborate the more chakra, and more mental strain used. Yin tech has to due with the field of imagination the mind so... yah there is chakra waste

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and we are talking about how he is a slacker, he didnt even rightfully earn his MS, and he doesnt train for power only training he did was with oro, and kakashi for chidori snakes nad mastering lightning tech, after that it was all MS techs no training to use it either. He's still relying on his brother power oro's power.

 

[psayian]

Still, Itachi stated that Uchiha with Sharingan is able to break Tsukiyomi. I dont know if Sasuke would be able to break it with three tomoe Sharingan, but with EMS he shouldnt have problems.

Well i guess we will have to see in the manga when and if this will happen, because it hasn't happened yet. At least with 3 tomoi. But yah if sasuke can break genjutsu why hasnt he had a counter for any yet he can see it but he cant do anything about it. ALl he can do is bark at it not bite not anything else. But sasuke doesnt train even with the EMS he hasnt fought many genjutsu user he prob doesnt have the skillset or the tech for it. He hasnt trained to fight or defend against genjutsu so even if he has he can prob make a really nice attack but no defense its easy to attack. But its not so easy to defend.

 

[Turson]

Thats not how genjutsu works. Genjutsu are yin release techniques the more elaborate the more chakra, and more mental strain used. Yin tech has to due with the field of imagination the mind so... yah there is chakra waste

Like I said, Sasuke only wasted chakra on Genjutsu, not these techniques. It only worn him out mentally if anything.

and we are talking about how he is a slacker, he didnt even rightfully earn his MS, and he doesnt train for power only training he did was with oro

He couldnt trait with MS, it would make him blind. Currently hes getting accustomed to EMS by practice, he doesnt have to train in normal way. Actually, its way better than normal training.

At least with 3 tomoi. But yah if sasuke can break genjutsu why hasnt he had a counter for any yet he can see it but he cant do anything about it.

Lol? Sasuke broke every Genjutsu he encountered to this point.

 

[Rapid]

Stop complaining how is he a slacker when he is already one of the strongest