" Sasuke is a Slacker."

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Sasuke has always been talked about how he has " Potential." Potential just means you havent done nothing yet to get further. Every Fight he has, he just goes in blazing away, and never thinks of it again. He never actually trains himself to better, just sits there with Tobi wondering how the Leaf's going to end.

Reasons for Slacking : Sasuke has been seen to break Itachi's Genjutsu Tsukuymoi. But that wasnt the case , because he has really no experiences with Genjutsu of the Highest Level. Itachi never wanted actually use it to kill him, just stall the fight out, and in reason so ; Itachi coughed up blood and Sasuke likes Ohh.. get him now!. Just because the Sharingan grants the user to see through Genjutsu doesnt mean you can see through every single type, you must train it and Sasuke clearly doesnt.

When he was hit with tsukyiomi he experienced the affects of tsyukiomi he was holding his eye the tsukimi just wasnt that effective he did get hit with genjtusu its like saying

if i have sharingan i cant be hit with genjutsu if thats the case why would itachi use it against him. its like saying because i have fire and earth style i can use lava style but thats not the case it needs to be a kekkei genkai and even with kekkei genkai's u have to train them

Sasuke Tsukuymoi also been show that he doesn't effect time, since he doesn't train it!

Sasuke's Taijutsu isn't up to a level where it should be, because he relieves on the Sharingan to see the linear movements of the attacks. Most notable when A attacked him At his speed. Also, Sasuke speed lacks due to just relieving on the Sharingan, by just looking for the movements of the attacker.

I will give him some credit towards his Ninjutsu. Hes good at that, has a well varied techniques to range from. Only problem hes need to stop going balls to wall with his Amaterasu and use it tactfully.

Bottomline, he just need to train more, and he would then surpass Itachi like Tobi and Kabuto&Oro noted like wise.
 

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The curse mark is what really broke Itachi's Tsukuyomi. So Sasuke wasn't even able to break it.. He thought it was actually happening.
 

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The curse mark is what really broke Itachi's Tsukuyomi. So Sasuke wasn't even able to break it.. He thought it was actually happening.

Sasuke just sucks at genjutsu i approve of your comment. :D +rep
 

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Got a question, is the curse mark still on sasuke?


No it was absorbed with the sword of toksua that itachi used on orochimaru, when he appeared from sasuke's curse mark using the eight branches technique to summon the white hydra snake and absorbed the reminence of orochimaru in sasuke.
 

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Sasuke Tsukuymoi also been show that he doesn't effect time, since he doesn't train it!

Eh, its not that. Sasuke just isnt as talented in Genjutsu as Itachi, therefore his Tsukiyomi is inferior. On the other hand, hes more talented than his bro in Ninjutsu area, so his Amaterasu is better.
I will give him some credit towards his Ninjutsu. Hes good at that, has a well varied techniques to range from. Only problem hes need to stop going balls to wall with his Amaterasu and use it tactfully.

Why should he stop spamming S-class technique if he can? He saved Itachis ass with that recently.
 

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I doubt that itachi was worse in ninjutsu, he was half power and already almost dead due to his illness.

Itachi is already dead, so how did he save him not like he could die again and not come back.

I agree with ur S class tech naruto spams rasengans and stuff
 
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I doubt that itachi was worse in ninjutsu, he was half power and already almost dead due to his illness.

Im not saying about that, Sasuke just have wider arsenal of strong Ninjutsus. Besides, the fact that hes more skilled with Amaterasu than Itachi proves my words.
 

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Itachi was trained by his father and Shisui Sasuke was trained by ORO what do you expect
 

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Slacker is a slacker. Im not hating, look at the last thing i said. He simply doesnt do things that he has the ability to do to get better. If anything it just points to hes Cocky if he doesnt want to get better. Tobi wont be there forever helping him out at the last second.
 

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Im not saying about that, Sasuke just have wider arsenal of strong Ninjutsus. Besides, the fact that hes more skilled with Amaterasu than Itachi proves my words.


Ill give you that but itachi is already dead though so its not like itachi can die again :) but i like that i agree with u on that.
 

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Nah, his 3-tomoe sharingan is excellently developed to the point that he can see through and break any genjutsu, even Tsukuyomi. He did train his ass off with his sharingan and ninjutsu in the time-skip (and probably even got drugs according to Sakura).

His inferiority in genjutsu to Itachi is related to his natural capacity, Itachi is much more capable in genjutsu, while Sasuke is much more capable in ninjutsu. In a direct fight between the two I'd say Sasuke would win now, as genjutsu doesn't have much of an effect on him while he has superior ninjutsu. Not to mention, his ms gave him a significant stamina and reading movement boost it appears (judging from his feats pre-and post ms). And he can feel new power with EMS, so he's probably just received a similar improvement.

Sasuke right now is incredibly strong, he's using susanoo and amaterasu and enton like it's nothing. On the other hand, yeah he's not training much for him powers, but he's gaining his improvements in battle so that's not really an issue.
 

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Itachi was trained by his father and Shisui Sasuke was trained by ORO what do you expect

He outclassed his father, and shisui was his best friend they trained together itachi's father was probably like im not the man of the family anymore. Shisui i dont believe trained him and itachi i think is more the type of the person to train on his own and perfect. Think about it if shisui trained itachi he would of killed itachi, but i think they were around the same age.
 

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Nah, his 3-tomoe sharingan is excellently developed to the point that he can see through and break any genjutsu, even Tsukuyomi. He did train his ass off with his sharingan and ninjutsu in the time-skip (and probably even got drugs according to Sakura).

His inferiority in genjutsu to Itachi is related to his natural capacity, Itachi is much more capable in genjutsu, while Sasuke is much more capable in ninjutsu. In a direct fight between the two I'd say Sasuke would win now, as genjutsu doesn't have much of an effect on him while he has superior ninjutsu. Not to mention, his ms gave him a significant stamina and reading movement boost it appears (judging from his feats pre-and post ms). And he can feel new power with EMS, so he's probably just received a similar improvement.

Sasuke right now is incredibly strong, he's using susanoo and amaterasu and enton like it's nothing. On the other hand, yeah he's not training much for him powers, but he's gaining his improvements in battle so that's not really an issue.

let me break it down for you his sharingan didnt break tsukiyomi. He has curse mark thats like having oro living inside u oro's chakra which is a boost of ur own which is like him flowing his chakra into you causing the genjutsu to break the cm broke the tsukiyomi not sasuke's eyes. When sasuke came to oro he came for power, and oro gave sasuke his power and a boost to his chakra with his chakra in the form of the seal hes drawing on oro's power which isn't his nor is it his chakra he just houses some of oro's chakra allowing him to break genjutsu.
 

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let me break it down for you his sharingan didnt break tsukiyomi. He has curse mark thats like having oro living inside u oro's chakra which is a boost of ur own which is like him flowing his chakra into you causing the genjutsu to break the cm broke the tsukiyomi not sasuke's eyes. When sasuke came to oro he came for power, and oro gave sasuke his power and a boost to his chakra with his chakra in the form of the seal hes drawing on oro's power which isn't his nor is it his chakra he just houses some of oro's chakra allowing him to break genjutsu.

Still, Itachi stated that Uchiha with Sharingan is able to break Tsukiyomi. I dont know if Sasuke would be able to break it with three tomoe Sharingan, but with EMS he shouldnt have problems.
 

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Sasuke simply needs to train if he wishes to crush the Leaf. Improving a little by little wont help him when he goes against stronger opponents or teams again like at 5 Kage summit, if he trains his Sharingan more and maybe vary the style to a new height, he will be fine.
 

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Still, Itachi stated that Uchiha with Sharingan is able to break Tsukiyomi. I dont know if Sasuke would be able to break it with three tomoe Sharingan, but with EMS he shouldnt have problems.

Itachi trains and is like a perfectionist. He's encountered people using genjutsu sasuke on the other hand hasnt underwent genjutsu other than his brother and thats like saying just because i have water and lighting style i can use storm style. It hasn't been shown in the manga sasuke's efficency with breaking genjutsu or chakra control to break genjutsu just itachi's. So thats why i believe sasuke can't really see through genjutsu, because he hasn't gone under training. Also he was under a genjutsu under the chunnin exam against the people hidden in the mud where they had illusions come out the ground and naruto tricked them by creating clones, and have them pretend that they were exhausted out of chakra which caused them to break their genjutsu to kill them with kunai. this is when he was 2 tomoe and he was facing like a D rank genjutsu he couldnt see through it.
 
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