Sasuke is A Genius

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Yea sasuke is a lower level genius with good genes. Nothing more.
 
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Let's put it this way. No 17 year old in the ninja world is, or was on Sasuke's status. He surpasses all geniuses ever
 

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Who said he wasn't a genius? This was stated in the manga by Orochimaru and Jiraiya agreed. There are lots of geniuses who have different type of smarts or specialty. Kakashi called Lee a genius for his skills with the gates during the Chunin exam, Neji was called a genius, Shikamaru was called a genius, Temari was said to think like Shikamaru so she's one, Sakura is book smart, Minato was said to be a genius that Jiraiya haven't seen since Minato himself, Orochimaru was a prodigy since a young age, Itachi and Kakashi were geniuses at young ages, Kakashi called Naruto smart recently, Kabuto is a genius.

Genius doesn't mean smart in the ninja world. It means talented. Sasuke is the most talented thus far
 

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Why is there a debate here? Its a manga fact that he's a genius which has been stated by shinobis like rock lee, kakashi, orochimaru etc hokages like minato and tobirama have given him praise, minato stating how skilled he is and tobirama calling him a prodigy like madara. Madara himself was impressed by his intelligence and wished he was born before obito. All this added to his known feats. Kishi is the one who made those top characters state such words so if you disagree then take it up with him simple as that. Dunno why people like debating against manga facts, you can hate sasuke but the hate unfortunately can't change the manga.
Great response. I think I'll put madara and itachi over him. Maybe kakashi too. I guess people underrate him due to his past actions but that could be contributed to his clan's curse
 

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He is by far the most talented person in this manga. I don't mean pure booksmarts
 

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Great response. I think I'll put madara and itachi over him. Maybe kakashi too. I guess people underrate him due to his past actions but that could be contributed to his clan's curse
Yh agreed, those people you mentioned are top geniuses so its understandable. Even while in rage mode sasuke still had it in him to cleverly trick an experienced shinobi like danzo with a genjutsu, figured out izanagi pretty quickly. That's sasuke at his highest point of rage, when he
is calm he is capable of much more than that,like breaking down limbo or better still the deidara battle comes to mind,I mean the guy was formulating hypothesis, countering all deidaras techs and having a back up plan using pure strategy throughout the entire battle. He was also analyzing what the edo hokages were doing(using their edo bodies as advantages in the juubito battle) and broke it down to naruto earning a skill comment from minato(who himself is a genius) .So when I see people underating his intelligence and genuis aspect of him I just laugh because they make themselves look like fools. A calm sasuke imo is easily among the top tier in terms of being a genius, its better to not pay attention to trolls and haters.
 

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Yh agreed, those people you mentioned are top geniuses so its understandable. Even while in rage mode sasuke still had it in him to cleverly trick an experienced shinobi like danzo with a genjutsu, figured out izanagi pretty quickly. That's sasuke at his highest point of rage, when he
is calm he is capable of much more than that,like breaking down limbo or better still the deidara battle comes to mind,I mean the guy was formulating hypothesis, countering all deidaras techs and having a back up plan using pure strategy throughout the entire battle. He was also analyzing what the edo hokages were doing(using their edo bodies as advantages in the juubito battle) and broke it down to naruto earning a skill comment from minato(who himself is a genius) .So when I see people underating his intelligence and genuis aspect of him I just laugh because they make themselves look like fools. A calm sasuke imo is easily among the top tier in terms of being a genius, its better to not pay attention to trolls and haters.
Exactly. When he was most emotionally vulnerable he still tricked an experienced fighter. Made danzo look pathetic.

Also I wonder if anyone else would be able to do the same against such powerful fighters like juubito or madara. I seriously doubt it. This guy is made for combat.
 

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Let's put it this way. No 17 year old in the ninja world is, or was on Sasuke's status. He surpasses all geniuses ever

Naruto is younger and he is doing more than Sasuke. ..
Your point is?
 

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Kakashi created Chidori at like 10. Itachi did everything better than Sasuke. Neji was held in higher regard. Lee beat Sasuke up. Gaara wrecked him. Then, an incapacitated Sasuke just sat and watched Naruto dismantle Gaara. Rasengan > Chidori, and Naruto mastered it in one week. Critically ill Kimimaro would have torn Sasuke apart. He may be talented, but Sasuke is not a genius by any means.
 

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I agree. Sasuke is indeed a genius. However, I think that he received a lot of assistance to get to his current levels (powerwise, not intellectually). There are others who I think are geniuses at a higher level than he is but thats not to negate the fact that he is a genius.
 

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I think he is the most smart person in the whole serie when it comes to battles. He is so tactical. But to be honest Itachi is probably a bit smarter when he thinks outside battles. Like with knewing Sasuke would kill him in the end and stuff.
 

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Genius doesn't mean smart in the ninja world. It means talented. Sasuke is the most talented thus far

I know it means Talent, here are examples of "geniuses" which refer to their talent.

Lee called the Uchihas a clan of Geniuses , Gai called Lee a genius of hard work then Kakashi said it has nothing to do with hard work and called Lee a Genius , Gai called Kakashi Genius , Kankouro called Gaara a Genius , Neji is called a Genius .

Shikamaru being called a genius can also be talent since he is capable of thinking 200 moves ahead in a short time, that's more than just smarts since other smart ninjas can't do anything like that. And Naruto have the most talent thus far, the things he's capable of doing from little to no training is more impressive. Sasuke even showed jealousy in Naruto being able to use all of BM and BSM chakra so well. Orochimaru gives his explanation of ninja talent and Naruto is pulling off high level jutsus since he was a Genin which Orochimaru showed to be worried about and .

Naruto has both Orochimaru's and Jiraiya's definition of Talent, he took the Bijuus power which he never used and was able to instantly combined it with his Rasengan which made S rank jutsus and is high chakra control.
 

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Who said Sasuke wasn't a genius? The haters just hate him because he's Sasuke.
These feats are also very similar to Kakashi.
 

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Naruto is younger and he is doing more than Sasuke. ..
Your point is?

Intellectually, Naruto is dissapointing. I could argue that SM Naruto couldn't beat Deidara or think on PTS Sasuke's level. He used brute force and lacks talent, skill, intellect, or unique advantages to make him a genius
 

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when did the meaning of 'genius' change to 'colossal tool'?
 

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He is a prodigy, not a genius. Genius people have very smart brains. Only Itachi was a genius prodigy of konoha!
 

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lol what are you talking about? he was 12 or 13 when he unlocked it lol

OT: Everyone knew this U_U

Hahaha you don't know a think. When Itachi killed his clan and sasukes parents he awakened the sharingan but he forgot about that.
 
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