Sasuke has yet to "fixate" his Susanoo.

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Other then the legs (and size), this "fixation" process, or the stabilization of the chakra, is the only difference in Madara's and Sasuke's Susanoo. Sasuke's can also perform/utilize jutsu, shown by it firing Amaterasu disks ( ). But Sasuke has not stabilized (as stated by Onoki) his Susanoo's chakra yet.

Madara's Susanoo before "fixation:"
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Sasuke's Susanoo before "fixation:"
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Notice how both Madara's pre-fixation Susanoo and Sasuke's current Susanoo bear many resemblances. All of their arms have the weird, flaky flesh/armor to them. Both also have similar hoods/helmets covering their faces. And lastly, both have chakra floating up and seemingly evaporating around them. In general, they both look more demonic and incomplete, not like a humanoid presence.
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Now look at Madara's Susanoo after its chakra has stabilized (fixation):
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As shown, there is no "stray" chakra, and the Susanoo's flesh/armor, helmet/head, and overall shape in general are a lot of more definite. So no, in my opinion, Madara's Rinnegan and Senju DNA have nothing to do with his Susanoo being different from the others; he's just mastered the EMS completely. IMO its size and legs just represent his better mastery and higher chakra pool, but the stabilized form can be achieved by Sasuke too, once he can completely control his Susanoo's chakra. I don't know whether Itachi can achieve the same thing, though.
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On another note: What do you guys think Sasuke's perfect, fixated Susanoo will look like? And do you think it will be able to rival Naruto's Bijuu Mode?
 
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im sure its just with ems susanoo and i agree sasuke > naruto
 

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I disagree, but either way, this is a good thread.
What about this version of Madara's Susano'o? What resemblances does Sasuke's Susano'o have with this?
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agreed, sasuke will use that against his fight with naruto.
 

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omg, i love u never noticed this till now
 

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+Rep and LMAO I believe Madara is Impossible to defeat. So OP, IMO. LMAO

P.S. I hope Sasuke gets Perfect Susanoo
 

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I disagree, but either way, this is a good thread.
What about this version of Madara's Susano'o?
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In my opinion, I think that Susanoo is equivalent to this one, judging by the similar-looking flesh/armor:
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In my opinion, I think that Susanoo is equivalent to this one, judging by the similar-looking flesh/armor:
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True but I'm still unconvinced. Try and sway me.
 

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In my opinion, I think that Susanoo is equivalent to this one, judging by the similar-looking flesh/armor:
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the head and design looks similar
 

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True but I'm still unconvinced. Try and sway me.

I don't know how to, LOL. I'll read your Susanoo thread and get back to you. :cool:

EDIT: Alright, I read it. I know you haven't updated it to account for this chapter, but I'll answer as best as I can. You stated that Sasuke's EMS Susanoo development has already been shown, but I tend to disagree. I think the minor change was due to Sasuke going deeper into the darkness, and the possible influence of Itachi's eyes. The Amaterasu orb was present in Sasuke's MS complete Susanoo (I'm pretty sure). I think Sasuke has yet to achieve his updated Susanoo due to the EMS. Remember that he has just started using it, and it takes awhile to achieve a "complete" Susanoo (shown through Sasuke's gradual MS advancements in Susanoo).
 
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I don't know how to, LOL. I'll read your Susanoo thread and get back to you. :cool:

EDIT: Alright, I read it. I know you haven't updated it to account for this chapter, but I'll answer as best as I can. You stated that Sasuke's EMS Susanoo development has already been shown, but I tend to disagree. I think the minor change was due to Sasuke going deeper into the darkness, and the possible influence of Itachi's eyes. The Amaterasu orb was present in Sasuke's MS complete Susanoo (I'm pretty sure). I think Sasuke has yet to achieve his updated Susanoo due to the EMS. Remember that he has just started using it, and it takes awhile to achieve a "complete" Susanoo (shown through Sasuke's gradual MS advancements in Susanoo).

Thank you for reading it. Good points btw, the reason why I think it requires the Rinnegan is because ever since we first saw Susano'o it was constantly being upgraded, when Sasuke got the EMS it increased. My point is that Susano'o can keep increasing when you fuel it with hatred, but there's a limit to which it can reach, for example. If you look at Itachi's (MS) Susano'o it's similar to Sasuke's but the peeling off armour effect on Sasuke's Susano'o is not present on Itachi's. Itachi's Susano'o has "reached it's limit" and it can't go any further without the EMS. Same with Sasuke, his has reached it's limit and to become perfect it requires the Rinnegan. Have I convinced you?

he thinks that stupid sig thread answers everything about susanoo

I'll admit I post it a lot around the forums, but to be fair, I doubt you could make such a thread U_U
 
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Well he said only Harashima was the only one that can withstand his final Susanoo so its definitely a EMS jutsu. If Sasuke could stabilize his Susanoo then he wouldn't need the rinnegan. His Susanoo would be just like Madara.
 

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Thank you for reading it. Good points btw, the reason why I think it requires the Rinnegan is because ever since we first saw Susano'o it was constantly being upgraded, when Sasuke got the EMS it increased. My point is that Susano'o can keep increasing when you fuel it with hatred, but there's a limit to which it can reach, for example. If you look at Itachi's (MS) Susano'o it's similar to Sasuke's but the peeling off armour effect on Sasuke's Susano'o is not present on Itachi's. Itachi's Susano'o has "reached it's limit" and it can't go any further without the EMS. Same with Sasuke, his has reached it's limit and to become perfect it requires the Rinnegan. Have I convinced you?

Still not convinced, haha. I think the peeling-off-armor is only the first stage of Sasuke's Susanoo's EMS transformation (such as the rib-cage, flesh, armor, etc. in MS). I don't think that Sasuke, without any prior EMS use, would gain his full-potential EMS Susanoo right away.

And you have to take into account Tsunade stating "my grandpa fought that?" when referring to Madara's fixated Susanoo. And Madara didn't really say anything against that.
 

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don't worry sasuke will have stabilized susanoo when he fights naruto because he needs to counter bm xd
 
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