Sasuke has really Grown and Matured as character

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Ok, I love Sasuke's character his development is non linear and entertaining. Ppl say that Sasuke's character flip flops, but they couldn't be more wrong. Sasuke is a character that followed a lie and in the beginning shaped his life's objective around that lie.

-Sasuke believed that Itachi killed his clan to test his own ability. Because of that Sasuke sought justice for his departed clan by killing Itachi.

-After Itachi died Sasuke found out that the reason Itachi did what he did was because he was forced to by the village and Itachi only wanted to protect Sasuke. Seeing how the village was the real cause of his clan's suffering Sasuke sought vengeance against Konoha

-After Itachi came back Itachi informed Sasuke that it wasn't just because of Sasuke, but mostly because Itachi wanted to protect the village. Itachi showed Sasuke the depths of his loyalty towards the village and this confused Sasuke and made him want to know what the village actually was and whether it warranted Itachi's loyalty

-When Sasuke saw that his clan's was a necessary sacrifice to maintain the valuable institution that is the village Sasuke is currently endeavoring to make sure that his clan's sacrifice is not wasted by going through with Itachi's will and protecting the village.

All of these crooks and turns that Sasuke made have all been with one purpose, and that is to seek justice for his clan, but as he came to learn more and more about the past what that justice actually meant changed

That all being said Sasuke realizes that the flaws in the system is what caused the situation of the Uchiha to transpire so Sasuke's justice atp means protecting the place that they were sacrificed for and preventing a situation like theirs from transpiring again.

Sasuke's character path is a fine example of how our reality is only what we take to be truth

Sasuke is one of the only characters in this manga that actually takes a brain to understand that is y his character is often taken for granted


OT: I agree, Sasuke has matured a lot and he isn't done either. I am really looking forward to how Kishimoto finishes developing his character.
 
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Ok?, Even if He was BZ pawn and obito used him, so what?, like i said this thread was made to show the growth on Sasuke's character, that's all, so what you said just now, was irrelevant
Then how can his character's grow when he was manipulated by BZ and obito ..
That's point.
He have no character development ..His character is still same to part 1 sasuke then how he can grow?


You dont know what character growth means
 

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I do agree that he matured throughout the series however it went downhill in one page. It looked like his personality in part 1 came back.

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Then how can his character's grow when he was manipulated by BZ and obito ..
That's point.
He have no character development ..His character is still same to part 1 sasuke then how he can grow?


You dont know what character growth means
First of all, his whole life was not manipulated by Bz, He made his own choices and decision's, most of the stuff was from the past uchiha, and he has had lots of development, i put them directly in my post, but you're just turning a blind eye
 

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I do agree that he matured throughout the series however it went downhill in one page. Looked like his personality in part 1 came back.

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I already talked about this in the post
 

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But Sasuke cried to unlock his Mangekyō Sharingan.
Starting a War and getting a Divine Power-Up is more Bad Ass than crying to get a Power-Up.
You #Butthurt.
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Not really, I like Obito but I admit his reason for war was absolutley dumb. I'm just not a obsessive fan boy, Sasuke has matured but not very much, he thinks the Bijuu should die which I never liked about him and that he takes his period on everyone else. I do like the fact that he is cool calm and collective. However, hes a douche bag. #hash #tags #make #you #feel #smart #good #for #you #kudos
And honestly you seem more butthurt because you actually took offence to it.
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Either way cool story bro.
 

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Ok, I love Sasuke's character his development is non linear and entertaining. Ppl say that Sasuke's character flip flops, but they couldn't be more wrong. Sasuke is a character that followed a lie and in the beginning shaped his life's objective around that lie.

-Sasuke believed that Itachi killed his clan to test his own ability. Because of that Sasuke sought justice for his departed clan by killing Itachi.

-After Itachi died Sasuke found out that the reason Itachi did what he did was because he was forced to by the village and Itachi only wanted to protect Sasuke. Seeing how the village was the real cause of his clan's suffering Sasuke sought vengeance against Konoha

-After Itachi came back Itachi informed Sasuke that it wasn't just because of Sasuke, but mostly because Itachi wanted to protect the village. Itachi showed Sasuke the depths of his loyalty towards the village and this confused Sasuke and made him want to know what the village actually was and whether it warranted Itachi's loyalty

-When Sasuke saw that his clan's was a necessary to maintain the valuable institution that is the village Sasuke is currently endeavoring to make sure that his clan's sacrifice is not wasted by going through with Itachi's will and protecting the village.

All of these crooks and turns that Sasuke made have all been with one purpose, and that is to seek justice for his clan, but as he came to learn more and more about the past what that justice actually meant changed

That all being said Sasuke realizes that the flaws in the system is what caused the situation of the Uchiha to transpire so Sasuke's justice atp means protecting the place that they were sacrificed for and preventing a situation like theirs from transpiring again.

Sasuke's character path is a fine example of how our reality is only what we take to be truth


ok i get it what did you say. But dont forget its not in reality when someone took revenge from his brother .. Even after he knew the truth of uchiha that they tried to coup detat and danzo ordered to kill them ..

He took revenge by killing danzo but why still he dont come back to konoha when his friends call him back ...

Why he tried to kill kakashi and sakura ?

Now he can see the true face of uchiha's .. Madara and obito revived ten tails then why his goal is same to not save his comrades..

Just look at his brother's life , he knew the truth of his village but he know that village have dark and light sides. he know the importance of village

Naruto face hatred too ..His mother was made jinchurikii for nine tails by the orders of konoha and naruto knew this ..So it means he should attack konoha? ...

Everyone in the village ignore him ..But he conquer his hatred that's why he didnt take revenge from nagato if you know that..
That's the reason nagato started to change and he saved konoha...

Sasuke still dont know anything ..Itachi's words that a person who acknowledge by the people can become kage/hokage

But sasuke is still wrong he perceived kage as a person who become a kage then people will acknowledge him..

His way is too unrealistic and that wont possible in reality..

Naruto's way is realistic because he learned from past experiences of his comrades like kakashi's , minato's and itachi's life..
He knew what he should do but sasuke's mind is still unclear and he dont know what he should do

He is wrong all the times
 

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Then how can his character's grow when he was manipulated by BZ and obito ..
That's point.
He have no character development ..His character is still same to part 1 sasuke then how he can grow?


You dont know what character growth means

His character development comes from what the op explained. Staying calm during dire situations. Asserting great plans to defeat the enemy. Understanding that the way things are going now for the ninja world is flawed so it needs to be changed. If you don't think that Sasuke had character development then you are the one who does not understand what character development means and you so deserve the title of The Biggest idiot on Narutobase.

Unlike Sasuke, Naruto was about to go out and free people from Mugen Tsukuyomi and that would have meant him turning into a Zetsu. Sasuke was smart enough to stop him from falling into that trap. Naruto is still naïve and impatient. At least Sasuke can be calm without worrying about things that are not important to the current situation.

Your arguments are shit and it seems like you don't understand anything about Sasuke, and as I said before, don't talk about Sasuke if you don't understand his character and how he has progressed.
 

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But Sasuke cried to unlock his Mangekyō Sharingan.
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Assuming Obito is my favorite Character because I'm using a Tobi Avatar is stupid. I don't care what you think about Obito and don't know why you would think that remark about Obito matters to me.
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He changed his mind 3 times

He manuplated by BZ and obito and tried to attack konoha ...

He attacked killerbee by taking orders by Obito

And you still say that he is Matured

I dont have time to read your shitty thread...

Current Sasuke's character is still a shitty character that's why his new goal is to kill naruto..

He even didnt save kakashi and sakura

On the other hand Naruto saved all of his team mates including Sasuke..He didnt take any U turns in his life..He is matured character

Unlike Naruto, sasuke have weak will that's why he didnt able to get rid of BZ ...Naruto saved him from BZ...

Accept the truth that all uchiha's except itachi and shisui manipulated by BZ


Just look at all posts all of NB members gave a shi.t to your thread ..You know why? because you are completely biased...Everyone knows that Sasuke is a immature character

Kid dont troll your ownself .. You know it that sasuke is a mere pawn which BZ , Obito , and orochimaru used..

If his character is matured then why Itachi said that only naruto will change him?

If he is Matured guy why his elder brother said that naruto will change him? because sasuke is a immature guy that's why his elder brother said only a person like naruto will change him..


You just provide mere manga facts which didnt prove your point at all.. WHY EVERY VILLAIN left their hopes in naruto ? Why every one wants to follow the naruto's path? Even Itachi realized that he failed when he tried to do every thing by his own


Dont see manga in the way which you wish to be ..Just see the manga in the way which kishi wants to show us..


I just make things easy for you..

Just look at Hamura's ,indra's and Madara's character...

In the history there is no contributions of them.. Even only hagoromo's name in the history as a Hero..Hagoromo's path is same as naruto..There is no hamura's contributions in the history

Just look at Hashirama's case, He is known as Hero but why madara's name not in history?

Jus look at Indra's case, Ashura known as a Hero but why indra's name not in history?

It because there way is Wrong ...Naruto's way is right and he is a matured person.. He will change sasuke then may be sasuke's character will be better

Then how can his character's grow when he was manipulated by BZ and obito ..
That's point.
He have no character development ..His character is still same to part 1 sasuke then how he can grow?


You dont know what character growth means
whadafuq? This thread doe lol

OT:clarifyingThings, never make a thread like this again, this kids can't take a simple disscution on a "mature" level just play them for fools, don't bother anymore. Is useless.
 

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ok i get it what did you say. But dont forget its not in reality when someone took revenge from his brother .. Even after he knew the truth of uchiha that they tried to coup detat and danzo ordered to kill them ..

He took revenge by killing danzo but why still he dont come back to konoha when his friends call him back ...

Why he tried to kill kakashi and sakura ?

Now he can see the true face of uchiha's .. Madara and obito revived ten tails then why his goal is same to not save his comrades..

Just look at his brother's life , he knew the truth of his village but he know that village have dark and light sides. he know the importance of village

Naruto face hatred too ..His mother was made jinchurikii for nine tails by the orders of konoha and naruto knew this ..So it means he should attack konoha? ...

Everyone in the village ignore him ..But he conquer his hatred that's why he didnt take revenge from nagato if you know that..
That's the reason nagato started to change and he saved konoha...

Sasuke still dont know anything ..Itachi's words that a person who acknowledge by the people can become kage/hokage

But sasuke is still wrong he perceived kage as a person who become a kage then people will acknowledge him..

His way is too unrealistic and that wont possible in reality..

Naruto's way is realistic because he learned from past experiences of his comrades like kakashi's , minato's and itachi's life..
He knew what he should do but sasuke's mind is still unclear and he dont know what he should do

He is wrong all the times

You are not understanding what Kishi is doing by developing Sasuke's character.
 

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He has grown, yes. He's also matured, but in a negative way.
 

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ok i get it what did you say. But dont forget its not in reality when someone took revenge from his brother .. Even after he knew the truth of uchiha that they tried to coup detat and danzo ordered to kill them ..

He took revenge by killing danzo but why still he dont come back to konoha when his friends call him back ...

Why he tried to kill kakashi and sakura ?

Now he can see the true face of uchiha's .. Madara and obito revived ten tails then why his goal is same to not save his comrades..

Just look at his brother's life , he knew the truth of his village but he know that village have dark and light sides. he know the importance of village

Naruto face hatred too ..His mother was made jinchurikii for nine tails by the orders of konoha and naruto knew this ..So it means he should attack konoha? ...

Everyone in the village ignore him ..But he conquer his hatred that's why he didnt take revenge from nagato if you know that..
That's the reason nagato started to change and he saved konoha...

Sasuke still dont know anything ..Itachi's words that a person who acknowledge by the people can become kage/hokage

But sasuke is still wrong he perceived kage as a person who become a kage then people will acknowledge him..

His way is too unrealistic and that wont possible in reality..

Naruto's way is realistic because he learned from past experiences of his comrades like kakashi's , minato's and itachi's life..
He knew what he should do but sasuke's mind is still unclear and he dont know what he should do

He is wrong all the times
He wanted to destroy konoah, that's why he didint come back, also when he tried to kill kakashi and sakura, that was wrong, but he was under uchiha insanity (Not making a excuse, just saying), also that doesint make him a bad character, that's just like if Naruto tried to kill sasuke, would i call him a bad character?, no that has nothing to do with his character, what he did was messed up yes, but that has nothing to do with his character, and you keep trying to compare Naruto with Sasuke, when their pasts were different and you're just putting Sasuke's life in simple terms and not saying the full story
 

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whadafuq? This thread doe lol

OT:clarifyingThings, never make a thread like this again, this kids can't take a simple disscution on a "mature" level just play them for fools, don't bother anymore. Is useless.
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whadafuq? This thread doe lol

OT:clarifyingThings, never make a thread like this again, this kids can't take a simple disscution on a "mature" level just play them for fools, don't bother anymore. Is useless.
lol its similar to how when Naruto see's Darkness in someone, and he likes to change their way of thinking, i just hate to see stupid comments with no logic
 

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But if they are destined to fight in the end, wouldn't it be because Sasuke will once again be in the wrong?
 
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