Sasuke has potential to Master Sennin Mode

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And this show your idiocy: It's Latin, and it's meaning: God down with a machine. If I wanted to use the greek one, I would have used it, but the latin one is more known.

Nope, it's a greek term and deus ex machina is the latin translation. Lol

It's almost as if shelke wanted you to say that so he could prove you wrong ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
 

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And this show your idiocy: It's Latin, and it's meaning: God down with a machine. If I wanted to use the greek one, I would have used it, but the latin one is more known.

It a term used in theatre as "a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly resolved by the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability or object"

And that's what happenned with Hagoromo. He is the "god" coming down and giving powers to help the heroes because otherwise their situation would have been too hard to deal. Of course for the story sake, they didn't rolled over Madara, but they became much stronger and hard top deal with for him.

When you don't know how to analyse a text, try to understaind it by asking and not threwing it immediatly saying it has no sense, otherwise you should stay silent for your own sake.

Uchiha were never stated to have huge reserves of chakra, they have a strong chakra. ( Itachi didn't had big reserve and he is one famous one), the only who is seen havingboth is Madara.
In part one, sasuke had more chakra than normal genin. That's true. I never denied that he had bigger reserve than normal shinobi, because he trained since he is very young, but he stayed in the "normality". But in order to have senjutsu, you need to have way more of chakra, stamina and guts than any common guy. ( the last point is only mental though)

Looks like you just proved to me the grade A moron that you really are. Because the term originally comes from Greek Tragedy Theaters where literally a machine-like device was used for Plot Intervention:

That is why the term 'Machina' is used. Don't use terms you have no clue of.

Your stance is limited then. You ask one thing and then slink around the argument. Sasuke originally always has had large chakra reserves. The rest of your explanation is irrelevant given that Obito's original story states so: " ... Uchihas with unparalleled Chakra."

Proof that his chakra was better than normal? You don't have anything here.
 
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Nope, it's a greek term and deus ex machina is the latin translation. Lol

It's almost as if shelke wanted you to say that so he could prove you wrong ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

No way Sherlock.
You don't need to teach me that, I know, that's why I mentionned the greek one. But the sentence is in latin. Even though it's a translation, it's still latin words that I used.
Moreover:
Stop using the Greek term 'Deus Ex Machina'.

If he was referencing about the greek original one he wouldn't have said it like that.
Because the term, the words "deus ex machina" is latin.
If he really wanted to talk about the greek one he would have said it otherwise.

Looks like you just proved to me the grade A moron that you really are.

And you proved to me that you are an superiority over complexed moron. But that people already knew it.
 
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Minato I already put my point about him several times, if you don't know how to read properly it's not my fault. ^^

For Jiraiya, it was already known that he may have a very big chakra reserves with the fight against Oro. Despite being on drug effect, he used a mud technique in quite a big scale,
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So he implies that he wanted a way bigger swamp in order to sink a giant summoning. By the scale it already requires a huge amount of chakra and he made it at the begining of the fight. From someone with his experience, he wouldn't have put a technique from the start who could have drained most of his chakra from the start just in order to neutralize a summon. So by logic thinking, he tried to make it because he knew he had enough ressources to do that and continue the fight.

At the end of the fight, even though he was hurt ( a rib and a leg broken ) he still standed, tired but still in condition to continue the fight to some extant while tsunade had more difficulty because of the byakugo backlash even though she had less injuries at the end.

The statement was confirmed by fukasaku of Jiraiya having massive chakra pool. On the other side everytime Sasuke used something big, he shown immediate signs of fatigue because it drained a lot of it. It implies that he can't use big techniques very often otherwise he would deplete his reserve in no time.
You must be joking right?? First of all don't try to use logic with me because it's obviously something you ignore. Second, you didn't show me anything stating Jiraiya have a large chakra pool. Don't ask of me what you can't provide me of others, yet you defend them.. Third, yes it implies Jiraiya having a large chakra pool but Sasuke throwing amaterasu and Enton left and right like kunai and summoning Susanoo which both techniques was said to take huge amount of chakra implies what exactly??
 

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You must be joking right?? First of all don't try to use logic with me because it's obviously something you ignore. Second, you didn't show me anything stating Jiraiya have a large chakra pool. Don't ask of me what you can't provide me of others, yet you defend them.. Third, yes it implies Jiraiya having a large chakra pool but Sasuke throwing amaterasu and Enton left and right like kunai and summoning Susanoo which both techniques was said to take huge amount of chakra implies what exactly??

I just shown you that we have clues that Jiraiya may have big reserves ( doing techs of this scale at the begining of a fight like nothing implies that he have some pool), later Fukasaku confirmed that Jiraiya had huge reserves.

Edit: And for sasuke, we had in part 1, points that he had more chakra than normal genin. True.
But after that, the character evolved. And that's the thing who is shitty, there is no confirmation in mind by reliable source who says that he have a lot really big chakra pool. No source where it's said that the difference went to above normal to enormous. Unlike jiraiya who has been confirmed by fukasaku, nobody said that to the sasuke before hagoromo intervention.


As for the third point, give me the pages, if it's before hagoromo intervention, then I'll state my fault.
 
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I'm on my phone so I can't but can some please give this guy the pages of Sasuke fight the jyuubi and Obito... It's at the beginining of the 'new Sannin' era.. He used a summoning, three entons and summoned Susanoo twice.
 

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No way Sherlock.
You don't need to teach me that, I know, that's why I mentionned the greek one. But the sentence is in latin. Even though it's a translation, it's still latin words that I used.
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If he was referencing about the greek original one he wouldn't have said it like that.
Because the term, the words "deus ex machina" is latin.
If he really wanted to talk about the greek one he would have said it otherwise.

And you proved to me that you are an superiority over complexed moron. But that people already knew it.

Deus Ex Machina isn't a sentence. It's a phrase. Like I said, etymologically it's still a Greek term. Didn't know you would be so sensitive about this. You are still wrong. Latin was originally a Roman Language and its writing system was originally developed from Greek alphabets. This guy ... Stay on topic.

This term isn't even Latin, but Modern Latin. Looks like you just love using terms. What does it have to do with the Chakra argument?
 
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I admit with facts not fanfiction. And until now, I still wait for manga facts that he has a huge pool of chakra.
EMS doesn't gave him chakra pool it gives him more techs. And no sasuke have no stamina and just above the normal level of chakra.

Give me facts, you guys gave me nothing. So until then all what you said is fantasy. :coffee:
Lol the denial in you is sad. Look what kakashi says and that's only part 1 Sasuke let alone part 2.

 
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And that was all before fighting Jin Obito and after Kabuto. With no sign of fatigue..
 

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Deus Ex Machina isn't a sentence. It's a phrase.
For that, my bad, I got it mixed up, and though phrase had another meaning.

Like I said, etymologically its still a Greek term.
I know, but I didn't talked about etymology but the words directly, not their origin.
Deus ex machina is latin. Originated from a greek term, but the language used is still latin.
If you wanted to talk about etymology, then use clearer sentences or words like "from" in order to imply the origin of the term and not the form.

We aren't all native english users.

Moreover if we had to imply the etymology to each phrase used, it would be a mess. I used the latin ( modern latin if you want,) because it's the most commonly known form of the term.

Latin was originally a Roman Language and its writing system was originally developed from Greek alphabets
Weird from my memories of latin in middle school, latin language is from an "indo-european" language like greek, germanic, celtic etc... comes from.
As for the writting system, I don't recall this point well, but seems correct ( I'll make more research).

Looks like you just love using terms
I use terms when they have some "concordance", there are people in NB who do ot just for trying looking smart.

What does it have to do with the Chakra argument?
I used the "Deus ex-machina" phrase because Hagoromo appreared sasuke and naruto chakra from "nowhere". he talked to them and then gave both of protagonists chakra and weapons in order to solve the problem.
if we step back our point of view it looks like it. The phrase came because the situation of the powerup looked a lot alike the theatrical "trick". I used it to make my point short. That's all.

the denial in you is sad.

I deny when I don't have good proof to prove me wrong.
 

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For that, my bad, I got it mixed up, and though phrase had another meaning.


I know, but I didn't talked about etymology but the words directly, not their origin.
Deus ex machina is latin. Originated from a greek term, but the language used is still latin.
If you wanted to talk about etymology, then use clearer sentences or words like "from" in order to imply the origin of the term and not the form.

We aren't all native english users.

Moreover if we had to imply the etymology to each phrase used, it would be a mess. I used the latin ( modern latin if you want,) because it's the most commonly known form of the term.


Weird from my memories of latin in middle school, latin language is from an "indo-european" language like greek, germanic, celtic etc... comes from.
As for the writting system, I don't recall this point well, but seems correct ( I'll make more research).


I use terms when they have some "concordance", there are people in NB who do ot just for trying looking smart.


I used the "Deus ex-machina" phrase because Hagoromo appreared sasuke and naruto chakra from "nowhere". he talked to them and then gave both of protagonists chakra and weapons in order to solve the problem.
if we step back our point of view it looks like it. The phrase came because the situation of the powerup looked a lot alike the theatrical "trick". I used it to make my point short. That's all.



I deny when I don't have good proof to prove me wrong.
Just showed you scans and you're still saying he don't have high reserves.
 

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For that, my bad, I got it mixed up, and though phrase had another meaning.


I know, but I didn't talked about etymology but the words directly, not their origin.
Deus ex machina is latin. Originated from a greek term, but the language used is still latin.
If you wanted to talk about etymology, then use clearer sentences or words like "from" in order to imply the origin of the term and not the form.

We aren't all native english users.

Moreover if we had to imply the etymology to each phrase used, it would be a mess. I used the latin ( modern latin if you want,) because it's the most commonly known form of the term.


Weird from my memories of latin in middle school, latin language is from an "indo-european" language like greek, germanic, celtic etc... comes from.
As for the writting system, I don't recall this point well, but seems correct ( I'll make more research).


I use terms when they have some "concordance", there are people in NB who do ot just for trying looking smart.


I used the "Deus ex-machina" phrase because Hagoromo appreared sasuke and naruto chakra from "nowhere". he talked to them and then gave both of protagonists chakra and weapons in order to solve the problem.
if we step back our point of view it looks like it. The phrase came because the situation of the powerup looked a lot alike the theatrical "trick". I used it to make my point short. That's all.

I deny when I don't have good proof to prove me wrong.

Okay, no harm done. My bad, I should have stated the etymology part. I apologize for the rest of the snide remarks. I am a bit feverish today, so really, forgive me. I didn't mean it.

+ rep for your trouble.
 

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And that was all before fighting Jin Obito and after Kabuto. With no sign of fatigue..

That's what I talked about. Real Hints.
Indeed, that's quite impressive.

Maybe EMS optimises the use of chakra for techs in order for them to cost less or maybe the quality of the chakra plays with it.
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Kagutsuchi seems to be a form of amaterasu like chidori forms. Nothing new apart more applications than classic amaterasu.
The thing is Sakura do the same ( summoning + mass heal) without using immediatly her seal, so I wonder.
But I admit, big summonning + Partial susan'oo are good feats showing he really have good reserves.

Just need a character confirming it but the hints are good.

At least, unlike others you tried to put facts in your words, and for that, I salute you.
 

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Okay, no harm done. My bad, I should have stated the etymology part. I apologize for the rest of the snide remarks. I am a bit feverish today, so really, forgive me. I didn't mean it.

+ rep for your trouble.

Nah, it's okay, I wasn't very clear too about the phrase use.

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Just showed you scans and you're still saying he don't have high reserves.

Give me time to respond, for IoE sake
 
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