Sasuke has potential to Master Sennin Mode

[Rikodou Mode]

Didn't read. Sasuke never had the potential to use Sage Mode, only to have Senjutsu chakra. He now has Hagoromo's chakra which is technically Senjutsu chakra.

And he doesn't have the body to absorb natural energy, the Curse Seal was storing Orochimaru's Senjutsu chakra, Sasuke wasn't the one doing the absorbing.

 

[DHOH]

No he haven't been taught how to absorb.. But I'm so done with this topic.

 

[Stxluciferr]

Didn't read. Sasuke never had the potential to use Sage Mode, only to have Senjutsu chakra. He now has Hagoromo's chakra which is technically Senjutsu chakra.

And he doesn't have the body to absorb natural energy, the Curse Seal was storing Orochimaru's Senjutsu chakra, Sasuke wasn't the one doing the absorbing.

Neither did Naruto intill fukasaku taught him how to sense it with the assistance of toad oil originally. The only thing fukasaku explained you needed to do so was be able to sense it, have a large enough chakra pool to mix the NE with, and have good enough chakra control to balance the NE with the spiritual, and physical.

Sasuke has already shown to be able to sense NE without assistance from toad oil, has one of the largest chakra pools in the manga, and some of the best chakra control, as well as both Juugo's cells which naturally draw in NE and Hashiroids

 

[Dockinabix]

Still waiting for proofs

 

[Rikodou Mode]

Neither did Naruto intill fukasaku taught him how to sense it with the assistance of toad oil originally. The only thing fukasaku explained you needed to do so was be able to sense it, have a large enough chakra pool to mix the NE with, and have good enough chakra control to balance the NE with the spiritual, and physical.

Sasuke has already shown to be able to sense NE without assistance from toad oil, has one of the largest chakra pools in the manga, and some of the best chakra control, as well as both Juugo's cells which naturally draw in NE and Hashiroids

You also need stamina which is directly linked to life force which Uchihas don't have. Sasuke can use Senjutsu but he will never be able to learn Sage Mode and doesn't need to. He inherited Hagoromo's chakra which is a weaker version of Senjutsu, which is why he managed to sense nature energy and cut Madara in half.

And if he ever absorbed nature energy then he would have RSM which we know is impossible for him to gain. I mentioned RSM because Sasuke's chakra is no longer like Indra's. If it were influenced by nature energy it would be too overwhelming for a non-Ashura transmigrant to control. Madara himself absorbed Hashirama's Sage Mode when he had his cells transplanted into him.

 

[Stxluciferr]

You also need stamina which is directly linked to life force which Uchihas don't have. Sasuke can use Senjutsu but he will never be able to learn Sage Mode and doesn't need to. He inherited Hagoromo's chakra which is a weaker version of Senjutsu, which is why he managed to sense nature energy and cut Madara in half.

And if he ever absorbed nature energy then he would have RSM which we know is impossible for him to gain. I mentioned RSM because Sasuke's chakra is no longer like Indra's. If it were influenced by nature energy it would be too overwhelming for a non-Ashura transmigrant to control. Madara himself absorbed Hashirama's Sage Mode when he had his cells transplanted into him.

Yes stamina is also needed but Sasuke has Hashirama's cells which more than make up for any stamina deficiency (as they have always done). So to disqualify him from being capable of learning SM seems insensible, when if we were to set up a checklist of all the requirements and prerequisites of SM he meets each and every one of them.

And there is nothing to support it being to overwhelming for Sasuke. Madara absorbing sage mode with Hashirama's cells, which Sasuke also has, further supports that it shouldn't be a problem. Especially since it wouldn't have the added bijuu influence like Naruto's. I know that it would be overpowered, but there is nothing credible to suggest Sasuke would be encapable of doing it if he pursued it.

 

[maniaoqan]

You also need stamina which is directly linked to life force which Uchihas don't have. Sasuke can use Senjutsu but he will never be able to learn Sage Mode and doesn't need to. He inherited Hagoromo's chakra which is a weaker version of Senjutsu, which is why he managed to sense nature energy and cut Madara in half.

And if he ever absorbed nature energy then he would have RSM which we know is impossible for him to gain. I mentioned RSM because Sasuke's chakra is no longer like Indra's. If it were influenced by nature energy it would be too overwhelming for a non-Ashura transmigrant to control. Madara himself absorbed Hashirama's Sage Mode when he had his cells transplanted into him.

Are you saying Sasuke has less stamina than Minato/Jiraiya ? His feats should speak for itself, I don't know why so much denial.

 

[Heisenberg Wannabe]

Damn what you people don't understaind in "the original, the real sasuke and not the "deus ex machina" powered sasuke "
I feel like speaking astrophysics with kindergarden kids.

Sasuke isn't using any special chakra mode. This is his base chakra. Comprende?

 

[shelke]

Orochimaru needed Sasuke's body to learn Dragon Sage Mode. Which is why he was injected with Senjutsu. His body is perfectly capable of it.

 

[DHOH]

Sasuke isn't using any special chakra mode. This is his base chakra. Comprende?

Lol I meant you give you rep but hit the wrong button, sorry... And it says I need to share more with others before giving you some.. Soooo sorry again.

 

[DHOH]

Still waiting for proofs

Kakashi said a gennin should have enough chakra to perform the fire ball jutsu..

 

[Dockinabix]

Sasuke isn't using any special chakra mode. This is his base chakra. Comprende?

That's not his base chakra. That's him after receiving hagoromo chakra + rikoudou powers, I want proofs before this crap, before the deus ex machina appearance of hagoromo.

 

[Dockinabix]

Kakashi said a gennin should have enough chakra to perform the fire ball jutsu..

That's because he was trained beforehand, moreover it just shows that he have more chakra than normal people, a fact I don't deny. The point who has been yet to be proven, is someone reliable in the manga saying that Sasuke has enormous/very big chakra reserve. (or any word with the same strengh)

 

[Heisenberg Wannabe]

That's not his base chakra. That's him after receiving hagoromo chakra + rikoudou powers, I want proofs before this crap, before the deus ex machina appearance of hagoromo.

Sasuke isn't a Jinjuuriki or anything. He has no another chakra sources which he activates. That chakra Hagoromo gave him became a part of his core chakra. That much of chakra and on top of that ability to sense Natural energy is all what it is necessary to be SM user. I don't know why I'm keep bothering with narrow minded people like you.

 

[Dockinabix]

Sasuke isn't a Jinjuuriki or anything. He has no another chakra sources which he activates. That chakra Hagoromo gave him became a part of his core chakra. That much of chakra and on top of that ability to sense Natural energy is all what it is necessary to be SM user. I don't know why I'm keep bothering with narrow minded people like you.

I know all of that, but still he received a massive power up. What I want is a proof that before this powerup, he had huge reserve, something people said.

Because without this plot asspulled powerup, he would never be able to be a sennin, even a nobody who received such powers will be monstruous. Even now I don't think he has the goods for it like stamina. Even if the chakra is linked to it, it takes a very strong body and an absurd amount of guts to be a senin, and guts, sasuke didn't shown much. (Or you play like kabuto with the snakes.) Jiraiya had very, very large chakra reserve and had a very strong body just by looking at his stature, moreover he was the guts type of ninja. The only thing that's not logic to SM is Minato, but unlike the explanation is that he had the strings but not the body for it, it's an error.

This powerup make irrevelant nearly all the messages of the author and ****ed up the characters logic:

Hard work/training is needed to become stronger. Nope if you are legendary transmigrants. You can be a god if the grandpa comes to see you.

With hard work a no-name can equal a big name genius: Naruto who was a no-name apart of being the Kyubi holder is finally the son of the "great" yondaime and the previous kyubi holder who had a special chakra against Bijuu. Moreover he is the transmigrant of one son the of sage of 6 paths and he is the prophecy kid who will bring peace. What a background for a no-name type of character in part 1.

The next generation always surpass the previous: hashirama/madara part 2 power scale nullifies this. ( Although shodai 1st part was the best: very strong but dealable)

While naruto is a stamina freak who wins through endurance and guts his fights, sasuke was the opposite: designed for the most time as someone deadly strong in short fights, but not very good with long ones. ( that's why nearly all his fights are short)
The powerups ****ed up completly this equilibrium.

Moreover after re-reading, and comparing, sasuke 6 CT were a lot smaller than the one pulled by nagato.( the one nagato made is 2 or 3 times bigger) Moreover, nagato had to deal with 6 body control + pull a massive ST + make a full combat with regenerating bodies.

Sasuke without hagoromo chakra would never be able to do that.

That's why this crap for both naruto and sasuke don't count as legitimate powerups but as "deus ex machina" crap in order for them to have the weapons to deal with what they had in front of them, screwing all the epicness potential.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Kakashi has potiential to use sage mode to.

 

[DHOH]

That's because he was trained beforehand, moreover it just shows that he have more chakra than normal people, a fact I don't deny. The point who has been yet to be proven, is someone reliable in the manga saying that Sasuke has enormous/very big chakra reserve. (or any word with the same strengh)

I can ask you the same about jiraiya and Minato but it didn't stop them from using sage mode.... You have a pretty weak argument imo

 

[shelke]

I know all of that, but still he received a massive power up. What I want is a proof that before this powerup, he had huge reserve, something people said.

Because without this plot asspulled powerup, he would never be able to be a sennin, even a nobody who received such powers will be monstruous. Even now I don't think he has the goods for it like stamina. Even if the chakra is linked to it, it takes a very strong body and an absurd amount of guts to be a senin, and guts, sasuke didn't shown much. (Or you play like kabuto with the snakes.) Jiraiya had very, very large chakra reserve and had a very strong body just by looking at his stature, moreover he was the guts type of ninja. The only thing that's not logic to SM is Minato, but unlike the explanation is that he had the strings but not the body for it, it's an error.

This powerup make irrevelant nearly all the messages of the author and ****ed up the characters logic:

Hard work/training is needed to become stronger. Nope if you are legendary transmigrants. You can be a god if the grandpa comes to see you.

With hard work a no-name can equal a big name genius: Naruto who was a no-name apart of being the Kyubi holder is finally the son of the "great" yondaime and the previous kyubi holder who had a special chakra against Bijuu. Moreover he is the transmigrant of one son the of sage of 6 paths and he is the prophecy kid who will bring peace. What a background for a no-name type of character in part 1.

The next generation always surpass the previous: hashirama/madara part 2 power scale nullifies this. ( Although shodai 1st part was the best: very strong but dealable)

While naruto is a stamina freak who wins through endurance and guts his fights, sasuke was the opposite: designed for the most time as someone deadly strong in short fights, but not very good with long ones. ( that's why nearly all his fights are short)
The powerups ****ed up completly this equilibrium.

Moreover after re-reading, and comparing, sasuke 6 CT were a lot smaller than the one pulled by nagato.( the one nagato made is 2 or 3 times bigger) Moreover, nagato had to deal with 6 body control + pull a massive ST + make a full combat with regenerating bodies.

Sasuke without hagoromo chakra would never be able to do that.

That's why this crap for both naruto and sasuke don't count as legitimate powerups but as "deus ex machina" crap in order for them to have the weapons to deal with what they had in front of them, screwing all the epicness potential.

We have known this since part one that Sasuke has large chakra reserves. Kakashi mentions it twice - first time during the bell test and second time during the tree climbing session. The manga also mentions Uchihas having large reserves naturally.

Stop using the Greek term 'Deus Ex Machina'. It's littered all over your post for no apparent reason.

 

[Dockinabix]

I can ask you the same about jiraiya and Minato but it didn't stop them from using sage mode.... You have a pretty weak argument imo

Minato I already put my point about him several times, if you don't know how to read properly it's not my fault. ^^

For Jiraiya, it was already known that he may have a very big chakra reserves with the fight against Oro. Despite being on drug effect, he used a mud technique in quite a big scale,

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So he implies that he wanted a way bigger swamp in order to sink a giant summoning. By the scale it already requires a huge amount of chakra and he made it at the begining of the fight. From someone with his experience, he wouldn't have put a technique from the start who could have drained most of his chakra from the start just in order to neutralize a summon. So by logic thinking, he tried to make it because he knew he had enough ressources to do that and continue the fight.

At the end of the fight, even though he was hurt ( a rib and a leg broken ) he still standed, tired but still in condition to continue the fight to some extant while tsunade had more difficulty because of the byakugo backlash even though she had less injuries at the end.

The statement was confirmed by fukasaku of Jiraiya having massive chakra pool. On the other side everytime Sasuke used something big, he shown immediate signs of fatigue because it drained a lot of it. It implies that he can't use big techniques very often otherwise he would deplete his reserve in no time.

 

[Dockinabix]

We have known this since part one that Sasuke has large chakra reserves. Kakashi mentions it twice - first time during the bell test and second time during the tree climbing session. The manga also mentions Uchihas having large reserves naturally.

Stop using the Greek term 'Deus Ex Machina'. It's littered all over your post for no apparent reason.

And this show your idiocy: It's Latin, and it's meaning: God down with a machine. If I wanted to use the greek one, I would have used it, but the latin one is more known.

It a term used in theatre as "a plot device whereby a seemingly unsolvable problem is suddenly and abruptly resolved by the contrived and unexpected intervention of some new event, character, ability or object"

And that's what happenned with Hagoromo. He is the "god" coming down and giving powers to help the heroes because otherwise their situation would have been too hard to deal. Of course for the story sake, they didn't rolled over Madara, but they became much stronger and hard top deal with for him.

When you don't know how to analyse a text, try to understaind it by asking and not threwing it immediatly saying it has no sense, otherwise you should stay silent for your own sake.

Uchiha were never stated to have huge reserves of chakra, they have a strong chakra. ( Itachi didn't had big reserve and he is one famous one), the only who is seen havingboth is Madara.
In part one, sasuke had more chakra than normal genin. That's true. I never denied that he had bigger reserve than normal shinobi, because he trained since he is very young, but he stayed in the "normality". But in order to have senjutsu, you need to have way more of chakra, stamina and guts than any common guy. ( the last point is only mental though)