[Spoilers] Sasuke got away with Bijuu's chakra, again.

[UzumakiRyu]

His ability with the Rinnegan surprised even Hagoromo, that alone is proof enough that he can use it either on the same level, or a very high level compared to Hagoromo. (Unless you mean that Hagoromo wasn't a skilled Rinnegan user.)

I mean Sasuke's comment regarding him having the Rinnegan abilities as of 696 yet failing to utilize them in 697 in a tactical way thus confirming he can not use any Rinnegan ability he hasn't seen and also he has seen preta paths yet didn't use it.

That isn't using the Rinnegan perfectly

So can you still say he though being touted by the S06P to be using the Rinnegan perfectly?

 

[Byron123]

Again, you're wrong. Rinnegan is awoken by gaining Hagoromo's chakra. Either by getting it through Hagoromo himself, or by combining the chakra of Indra and Ashura. However, it was never classified if one needed Sharingan first. Anyhow, Sasuke's practice and growth with the Rinnegan is one of the main reasons he can use it so perfectly. That being said, without the gift from Hagoromo, Naruto wouldn't have had his strong Senjutsu or the Bijuu. (Making him, as everyone believed, a pathetic Shinobi.) That logic works both ways.

What you said about Naruto is not correct, unless you extend to the point of Bijuu's creation. If Naruto hadn't met Hagoromo he would still have Kurama, and bits of chakra from all the beasts. He may not have been able to incorporate them in his techniques but that isn't certain either. Also, his sage mode wouldn't have been perfect but it was still very very good. Kurama's chakra+ Uzumaki's lifeforce + almost perfect sage mode by no means make you pathetic.

 

[Shinato]

I mean Sasuke's comment regarding him having the Rinnegan abilities as of 696 yet failing to utilize them in 697 in a tactical way thus confirming he can not use any Rinnegan ability he hasn't seen and also he has seen preta paths yet didn't use it.

That isn't using the Rinnegan perfectly

So can you still say he though being touted by the S06P to be using the Rinnegan perfectly?

Okay, at this point you are denying the manga. Sasuke has already used Preta Path. Being able to use it tactically isn't the same as being able to use it perfectly. He can utilize the abilities of the Rinnegan perfectly, how he chose to use that depends.

 

[Shinato]

What you said about Naruto is not correct, unless you extend to the point of Bijuu's creation. If Naruto hadn't met Hagoromo he would still have Kurama, and bits of chakra from all the beasts. He may not have been able to incorporate them in his techniques but that isn't certain either. Also, his sage mode wouldn't have been perfect but it was still very very good. Kurama's chakra+ Uzumaki's lifeforce + almost perfect sage mode by no means make you pathetic.

Had it not been for Hagoromo, then Kurama and the other Bijuu wouldn't have existed in the first place. If Naruto didn't have Kurama, then he would have less chakra and his Sage Mode training would have taken longer, at at 17 years old he wouldn't have mastered it so far that he has now.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Okay, at this point you are denying the manga. Sasuke has already used Preta Path. Being able to use it tactically isn't the same as being able to use it perfectly. He can utilize the abilities of the Rinnegan perfectly, how he chose to use that depends.

Show me the scan of him using it. I don't remember him at anytime using the path jutsu to absorb any type of attack.

 

[Shinato]

Show me the scan of him using it. I don't remember him at anytime using the path jutsu to absorb any type of attack.

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There. Sasuke uses it to absorb Kurama's chakra.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

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There. Sasuke uses it to absorb Kurama's chakra.

So tell me why would he wait to use it then and not use it to absorb the attacks being directed at him from Naruto at his PS, from all his supposedly "experience" with melding senjutsu e.g Juugo's and Naruto's that he should be able to handle any Senjutsu infused or otherwise in those 2 RS attacks.

 

[Shinato]

So tell me why would he wait to use it then and not use it to absorb the attacks being directed at him from Naruto at his PS, from all his supposedly "experience" with melding senjutsu e.g Juugo's and Naruto's that he should be able to handle any Senjutsu infused or otherwise in those 2 RS attacks.

We don't know what limits Preta Path has, or if it even have any. That being said, he aimed to take Naruto down, he didn't absorb the attack because it wasn't chakra, it was a explosion form their attacks that crashed.

 

[Romy9]

If it's "normal" for Naruto to use it to enhance what his body can do, why isn't it "normal" for Sasuke to use the chakra to enhance what his eyes can do?

Because the older brother was blessed with powerful eyes. Before spreading butthurt, think about what you post first and how that reflects on this topic and overall premise of the story.

 

[Byron123]

So tell me why would he wait to use it then and not use it to absorb the attacks being directed at him from Naruto at his PS, from all his supposedly "experience" with melding senjutsu e.g Juugo's and Naruto's that he should be able to handle any Senjutsu infused or otherwise in those 2 RS attacks.

First of all, his attack had been initiated before Naruto threw his RS so when the techniques collided Naruto's RS were not even close to Sasuke.

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Had he cancelled his technique, he would have lost his chance to use his most powerful technique. Also, in case the 2 RS had interacted with each other before reaching Sasuke, then the later would have been hurt by the attack as he would have not been able to absorb the side explosion since that is not a technique.

 

[Trea]

Can we stop all of this bickering over borrowed and stolen powers? They are equals, they beat each other to their knees. It's all down to tactics now. Whoever has the best tactic is going to win. All if fair in a fight. Naruto took out Sasuke's susanoo, Sasuke took some chakra from Naruto.

I would say Sasuke has the upper hand, not only because he just took Naruto's chakra, but because he knows Naruto is not going to kill him. Naruto can't say that because Sasuke does want to kill him.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

We don't know what limits Preta Path has, or if it even have any. That being said, he aimed to take Naruto down, he didn't absorb the attack because it wasn't chakra, it was a explosion form their attacks that crashed.

Huh? he could of if he had wanted to Absorb The Rasen Shuriken and the Biju version of RS which were chakra as proved in the Nagato fight were Preta path aborbed the RS directed at him a few times, that explosion occured after the clash of those two attacks something easily prevented if Sasuke had used the ability right

 

[Byron123]

Had it not been for Hagoromo, then Kurama and the other Bijuu wouldn't have existed in the first place. If Naruto didn't have Kurama, then he would have less chakra and his Sage Mode training would have taken longer, at at 17 years old he wouldn't have mastered it so far that he has now.

Lol and with that logic there would be no narutoverse, no Uchiha to get sharingan and so sasuke wouldn't have been born. Besides, if uzuamaki derives from hamura then uzumaki would exist while Uchiha no, lol at this logic!

 

[Shinato]

Huh? he could of if he had wanted to Absorb The Rasen Shuriken and the Biju version of RS which were chakra as proved in the Nagato fight were Preta path aborbed the RS directed at him a few times, that explosion occured after the clash of those two attacks something easily prevented if Sasuke had used the ability right

You just said that a Fuuton RasenShuriken is equal to a Bijuudama Rasnshuriken in power. Jolly. (Someone explained the other part above.)

Lol and with that logic there would be no narutoverse, no Uchiha to get sharingan and so sasuke wouldn't have been born. Besides, if uzuamaki derives from hamura then uzumaki would exist while Uchiha no, lol at this logic!

Neither would have existed without Kaguya. (You are aware that I used your logic against you, right? In other words, you just lol'd at your own logic.. ._.)

 

[Byron123]

You just said that a Fuuton RasenShuriken is equal to a Bijuudama Rasnshuriken in power. Jolly. (Someone explained the other part above.)



Neither would have existed without Kaguya. (You are aware that I used your logic against you, right? In other words, you just lol'd at your own logic.. ._.)

Lol not at all, you used flawed logic in the first place. You implied that if it wasn't for Hagoromo meeting Naruto, the latter would be a pathetic shinobi and I countered by saying that even if he hand't met him, he would still have his incredible lifeforce due to his lineage, Kurama's chakra and his almost perfect sage mode. Then your only argument was that if it wasn't for Hagoromo there wouldn't be any beasts but this is completely stupid in the first place because if we go by that then there wouldn't be any uchiha and so no Sasuke.

It's not my logic that is wrong, it's your effort to use an argument that nullifies the whole creation of narutoverse and thus even's sasuke's.

 

[Shinato]

Lol not at all, you used flawed logic in the first place. You implied that if it wasn't for Hagoromo meeting Naruto, the latter would be a pathetic shinobi and I countered by saying that even if he hand't met him, he would still have his incredible lifeforce due to his lineage, Kurama's chakra and his almost perfect sage mode. Then your only argument was that if it wasn't for Hagoromo there wouldn't be any beasts but this is completely stupid in the first place because if we go by that then there wouldn't be any uchiha and so no Sasuke.

It's not my logic that is wrong, it's your effort to use an argument that nullifies the whole creation of narutoverse and thus even's sasuke's.

No, I corrected what you stated as you were wrong. I said had it not been for Hagoromo, Naruto wouldn't have been who he is and he would have Kurama or Sage Mode at the current level. (Or anywhere near.) That is the logic you replied to, and the logic you originally used. I haven't replied anything else than what I originally said.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

No, I corrected what you stated as you were wrong. I said had it not been for Hagoromo, Naruto wouldn't have been who he is and he would have Kurama or Sage Mode at the current level. (Or anywhere near.) That is the logic you replied to, and the logic you originally used. I haven't replied anything else than what I originally said.

You are right about Naruto's SM being a lot stronger after his S06P meeting but the Kurama thing really? saying that is the same like Bryon said without Hagomoro their wouldn't be anyone around.

 

[Byron123]

No, I corrected what you stated as you were wrong. I said had it not been for Hagoromo, Naruto wouldn't have been who he is and he would have Kurama or Sage Mode at the current level. (Or anywhere near.) That is the logic you replied to, and the logic you originally used. I haven't replied anything else than what I originally said.

Again, you're wrong. Rinnegan is awoken by gaining Hagoromo's chakra. Either by getting it through Hagoromo himself, or by combining the chakra of Indra and Ashura. However, it was never classified if one needed Sharingan first. Anyhow, Sasuke's practice and growth with the Rinnegan is one of the main reasons he can use it so perfectly. That being said, without the gift from Hagoromo, Naruto wouldn't have had his strong Senjutsu or the Bijuu. (Making him, as everyone believed, a pathetic Shinobi.) That logic works both ways.

I know very well what I said. By this line you concluded that if it wasn't for Hagoromo, he would have been completely pathetic. Now it's in your latest post that you changed the meaning to "not as strong" but this line gives a competely different meaning, at least to my understanding.

 

[Shinato]

You are right about Naruto's SM being a lot stronger after his S06P meeting but the Kurama thing really? saying that is the same like Bryon said without Hagomoro their wouldn't be anyone around.

That is the logic you've and most fanboys do when it comes to Sasuke's eyes or Naruto's power. As soon as people that used are faced with it, they claim its stupid. I find it fun to watch, though it is also correct.

I know very well what I said. By this line you concluded that if it wasn't for Hagoromo, he would have been completely pathetic. Now it's in your latest post that you changed the meaning to "not as strong" but this line gives a competely different meaning, at least to my understanding.

I said as everyone said, a pathetic Shinobi. That is what people believed of Naruto when he was young. (Because that was the extent of his own powers.) Not as strong can mean either as weak as possible or a little bit weaker, depends on who you ask.

 

[Byron123]

That is the logic you've and most fanboys do when it comes to Sasuke's eyes or Naruto's power. As soon as people that used are faced with it, they claim its stupid. I find it fun to watch, though it is also correct.



I said as everyone said, a pathetic Shinobi. That is what people believed of Naruto when he was young. (Because that was the extent of his own powers.) Not as strong can mean either as weak as possible or a little bit weaker, depends on who you ask.

But this is also a mistake. When you talked about Hagoromo, you referred specifically to the moment Naruto acquired his latest sage and bijuu mode but naruto had stopped being considered a pathetic ninja when he defeated nagato. In fact from that moment on he was regarded as a hero. So that being said I was correct because the way you put it was as if only his very latest power-ups were what changed everyone's opinion which in fact has been proven to be wrong.