Sasuke forgiven?

[SuperFlyzzED]

I seriously doubt that, Kishi made it crystal clear that Sasuke has no future.

That was established at the Five Kage Summit Arc.

Well it's a story which you seem to be forgetting here. Just because Sasuke is a criminal doesn't mean Kishimoto can't him make good towards others. Heck, Kishimoto is such a mastermind that he can make everyone forget Sasuke's evil deeds, that's how powerful Kishimoto is not the people in the story itself.

 

[saw2097]

Well it's a story which you seem to be forgetting here. Just because Sasuke is a criminal doesn't mean Kishimoto can't him make good towards others. Heck, Kishimoto is such a mastermind that he can make everyone forget Sasuke's evil deeds, that's how powerful Kishimoto is not the people in the story itself.

Yeah, that's why he went out of his way to say from several characters that Sasuke has no future, because he was just making dialogue.

As you said he is writing a story and in that story Sasuke is a wanted criminal who will be punished if captured.

Several character written by Kishimoto say Sasuke can never go back.

That's Kishi's story.

 

[insid3rkil3r]

Villages commit crimes against other villages, and now they stand as one.

The Raikage attempted to kidnap Hinata, which led to Neji's father's death. Konoha swallowed their tears to avoid a war.

Sure Sasuke wasnt doing anything good by targeting Bee that one time, but his action isnt different then Raikage's.



If Raikage is considered leader of the alliance and people dont seem to bear grudges against him, Sasuke being forgiven isnt not impossible to say the least.

Sure he attacked Bee

He may have killed Samurais, at least injured them

He did kill Danzo, but Danzo was becoming an enemy to everybody at this point, we've seen enough of him to realise that while he wanted the best of Konoha, he was selfish above all

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Yeah, that's why he went out of his way to say from several characters that Sasuke has no future, because he was just making dialogue.

As you said he is writing a story and in that story Sasuke is a wanted criminal who will be punished if captured.

My god are you so naive to be forgetting that the seeds of change have taken root? Sasuke was confused for most of the series doesn't mean his actions were the right kind of nature; but it doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve a second chance. Also, Sasuke spared the village from destruction. Sasuke had the chance to finally reduce Konoha into rubble, but did he decide to go through with it? No. Despite Sasuke's character development taking such an easy turn. I believe it shows that he still has good with him. However, you use a situation that happened nearly after the revelation of Itachi's true character. How would you feel if the person you wanted to get rid from the face of the world was actually good? Exactly. Besides the villagers will mostly consider Sasuke a hero, whether he lives or dies. He did collaborate with Itachi in stopping Edo Tensei without him that goal wouldn't have been reachable. Sasuke also brought Orochimaru back in order for him to bring back the former Hokages, who will lend their own support in the battlefield against Madara. Hashirama, a powerful mediator, will change the minds of how people perceive Sasuke. Sasuke could have made things more hard on himself, but he decided for now to choose the right path which is helping his former teammates.

 

[Imperfect]

Sasuke will fight for the village, permission or no. He won't let the Alliance stop him from preserving his brothers wish, that the village be held in a higher regard than his own life. From this point on my opinion on this matter is shown with this...

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[ChakraSage]

My god are you so naive to be forgetting that the seeds of change have taken root? Sasuke was confused for most of the series doesn't mean his actions were the right kind of nature; but it doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve a second chance. Also, Sasuke spared the village from destruction. Sasuke had the chance to finally reduce Konoha into rubble, but did he decide to go through with it? No. Despite Sasuke's character development taking such an easy turn. I believe it shows that he still has good with him. However, you use a situation that happened nearly after the revelation of Itachi's true character. How would you feel if the person you wanted to get rid from the face of the world was actually good? Exactly. Besides the villagers will mostly consider Sasuke a hero, whether he lives or dies. He did collaborate with Itachi in stopping Edo Tensei without him that goal wouldn't have been reachable. Sasuke also brought Orochimaru back in order for him to bring back the former Hokages, who will lend their own support in the battlefield against Madara. Hashirama, a powerful mediator, will change the minds of how people perceive Sasuke. Sasuke could have made things more hard on himself, but he decided for now to choose the right path which is helping his former teammates.

While Sasuke sparing Konoha isn't much of an argument, you do raise some good points. I hope Hashirama isn't the one who convinces the others, tbh. I'd also say that Sasuke has done some good, but his path has always been a selfish one, even now, in many ways, it is selfish. If he breaks away from that, and truly redeems himself, like I explained before in my previous post, it would go a long way towards earning forgiveness, especially amongst us fans. Honestly, the character really needs to develop for that. As you stated, this turn was too easy. The realization has been a while in coming, but still, there needs to be more development. That's why many people are complaining about him "suddenly" turning over a new leaf.

 

[saw2097]

My god are you so naive to be forgetting that the seeds of change have taken root? Sasuke was confused for most of the series doesn't mean his actions were the right kind of nature; but it doesn't mean that he doesn't deserve a second chance. Also, Sasuke spared the village from destruction. Sasuke had the chance to finally reduce Konoha into rubble, but did he decide to go through with it? No. Despite Sasuke's character development taking such an easy turn. I believe it shows that he still has good with him. However, you use a situation that happened nearly after the revelation of Itachi's true character. How would you feel if the person you wanted to get rid from the face of the world was actually good? Exactly. Besides the villagers will mostly consider Sasuke a hero, whether he lives or dies. He did collaborate with Itachi in stopping Edo Tensei without him that goal wouldn't have been reachable. Sasuke also brought Orochimaru back in order for him to bring back the former Hokages, who will lend their own support in the battlefield against Madara. Hashirama, a powerful mediator, will change the minds of how people perceive Sasuke. Sasuke could have made things more hard on himself, but he decided for now to choose the right path which is helping his former teammates.

Nope, manga has already spoken Sasuke has no future. If you read the manga you would know this.

The manga is where we get information from, and it has been established that Sasuke can't go back.

Tell me, if Ted Bundy stops a war should he be given a pardon for all the women he murdered or what about every other serial killer out there.

By the forgive Sasuke argument we would have to release serial killers from prison every time they say they are sorry. That's how ridiculous it is.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

Nope, manga has already spoken Sasuke has no future. If you read the manga you would know this.

The manga is where we get information from, and it has been established that Sasuke can't go back.

Tell me, if Ted Bundy stops a war should he be given a pardon for all the women he murdered or what about every other serial killer out there.

By the forgive Sasuke argument we would have to release serial killers from prison every time they say they are sorry. That's how ridiculous it is.

Saw it's funny how you expect me to believe you. In this case, "i bet if Itachi had been in Sasuke's shoes i see your answer being completely different." Also, saw, you blame me for being insulting which only you take it seriously... Do you wanna know why? Your entitled to your own opinion, but the difference is that it's preconceived with a dash of stubbornness.

 

[saw2097]

FYI people, Orochimaru is going to at least supposedly help the Alliance too, should he be forgiven as well? A guy who performed experiments on babies and smiled while talking about how they died.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

FYI people, Orochimaru is going to at least supposedly help the Alliance too, should he be forgiven as well? A guy who performed experiments on babies and smiled while talking about how they died.

I'm not talking about "Orochimaru The Molester." I'm talking about Sasuke Uchiha what part don't you comprehend?

 

[saw2097]

I'm not talking about "Orochimaru The Molester." I'm talking about Sasuke Uchiha what part don't you comprehend?

Both are criminals, and Orochimaru is helping just like Sasuke. So by the logic that Sasuke should be forgiven so should Orochimaru.

Plus the fact that Sasuke brought back Orochimaru will probably be held against him later on.

Which once again shows that Sasuke will most likely not be forgiven.

 

[Zyael]

Give me a break with this foolishness. Such a hater about everything that is Sasuke Uchiha.

Your sig is awesome xD

 

[Strata Uchiha]

Raikage A will wanna Lariat the mess outta Sasuke.

If Tsunade survives, I can see her sticking up for Sasuke's crimes.

 

[Keytap15]

I'm not talking about "Orochimaru The Molester." I'm talking about Sasuke Uchiha what part don't you comprehend?

You should really lighten up dude. You have such a negative vibe in the way you write your comments. What are you? 12?

Anyways, I think Sasuke will be f.orgiven, albeit in a gradual manner. He should pay for his treason in some way

 

[BenjerminGaye]

Vegeta was forgiven after murdering millions of innocent people...

I'm sure Sasuke can be forgiven for killing Danzo

In a world without the dragonballs logic like that doesn't apply

 

[saw2097]

You should really lighten up dude. You have such a negative vibe in the way you write your comments. What are you? 12?

Anyways, I think Sasuke will be f.orgiven, albeit in a gradual manner. He should pay for his treason in some way

It should be something big, like sacrificing himself to save others, that would be a good start.

If he is actually forgiven, but I think he will end up like his brother personally.

 

[paratise]

He might be "forgiven" on paper; but nothing would be the way it was befroe he became a traitor and did all the other stuff. There are no excueses when it comes to crimes he committed. "He was confused", "His clan get massacared"; they mean nothing; everyone has their own problems they can not help to happen; can you imagine if every others did what Sasuke did when something bad happened to them? It is life and s**t happens; but those s**t ain't excuese for commiting crimes such as attempting to murder innocent individuals.

 

[Keytap15]

Yeah. Sasuke definitely has to atone for his crimes in some manner. Him and Naruto still need to have their long awaited showdown. The manga won't be complete without it. Since he's on the side of the alliance, I see no reason for him and Naruto to fight, but maybe this won't last. We'll have to wait and see. Besides, Sasuke is going to need another power up because Naruto completely outclasses him in his current form and will make the gap even larger if Minato gives him the rest of the Kyubi's chakra.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

You should really lighten up dude. You have such a negative vibe in the way you write your comments. What are you? 12?

Anyways, I think Sasuke will be f.orgiven, albeit in a gradual manner. He should pay for his treason in some way

Guess you're a juvenile for jumping in the fray! I'm not talking to you so why insert yourself? Takes a hypocrite to know one.

 

[AfroJutsu]

Nope, manga has already spoken Sasuke has no future. If you read the manga you would know this.

The manga is where we get information from, and it has been established that Sasuke can't go back.

Tell me, if Ted Bundy stops a war should he be given a pardon for all the women he murdered or what about every other serial killer out there.

By the forgive Sasuke argument we would have to release serial killers from prison every time they say they are sorry. That's how ridiculous it is.

We get the info from the manga and it is easy to see that there are many similar patterns in this manga, parallels portrayed all throughout the manga, hashirama and madara parallel with naruto and sasuke. Naruto and a few friends may accept him but the village may not and many shinobi may not either, however naruto holds more influence over the current generation as well as the world/village hero so he would most likely pardon him. Konoha would most likely pardon him so that they could restore the uchiha and gain military might( the alliance wont last forever; look at wars and allies in the past century). So sasuke will most likely be accepted back in the beginning but it will take time for people to adjust just like how people didnt like madara, however much like madara his patience may wear thin and he will most likely begin to question the likelihood of full acceptance in konoha(hes a negative thinker , contrast to naruto who saw his acceptance issues as challenge to earn his acceptanceositive idiot). Sasuke would most likely question whether he should stay or go much like madara and from there im not sure what would happen, ther theories i have is he follows madaras path, becomes good however socially isolated in konoha, is fully accepted or just leaves the village. So the question isnt will he be forgiven of course he will its whether will he stay? but if u look at the original question "will he be forgiven?" by who is he forgiven and by who does it matter? too many factors too much time ill just wait for kishi to finish his lil manga so i can be done.