Sasuke Fans What Do Yall Give Naruto Credit Towards?

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I have watched both series. I must admit part 1 Naruto was sweet and edgy. He personified good mc. He started off part 2 slowly. Till the later part of the series where he went to shit. In my honest opinion Natsu >>>>>> Naruto in all aspects.

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Natsu has more versitile moves. More better hand to hand combat than Naruto ever did. His character is far more likeable .He is not an annoying dictator going around giving speeches. Plus his creator played with his attire more often. It took Naruto 668 chapters to drop the Jumpsuit. Where as Natsu changed his every arc. It made him feel more fresher.

fire dragon's roar/punch/breath/wash/rinse/repeat

also since when was natsu not a naruto ripoff in terms of speech giving?...he has his fair share of speech giving...clothes is irrelevant...kiritsugu emiya from fate/zero is the greatest character of all time and has only ever worn 1 suit as an adult
 

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I'm not joking. Mind explaining why do you think kiritsugu is the best MC of all anime.

because's he's the most relatable...that is the the most simple explination

plus his ideology is based on the realist of all realisms:

[video=youtube;6wyk5tGYTjY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wyk5tGYTjY[/video]
 

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fire dragon's roar/punch/breath/wash/rinse/repeat

And how many fights have you seen of Natsu, up to what arc exactly?

also since when was natsu not a naruto ripoff in terms of speech giving?...he has his fair share of speech giving...clothes is irrelevant...kiritsugu emiya from fate/zero is the greatest character of all time and has only ever worn 1 suit as an adult

Since when was Naruto the first ever character to ever give speeches during fights?

@bold: Yeah so? Thats what main characters do. They give inspiring speeches that make them memorable. Are you new to shonen or something?

Kiritsugu Emiya is not the greatest character in anime and he did wear another attire as an adult like this one.

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because's he's the most relatable...that is the the most simple explination

plus his ideology is based on the realist of all realisms:

[video=youtube;6wyk5tGYTjY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wyk5tGYTjY[/video]

I see so I am assuming you have past of some zombies attacking your village?
 
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And how many fights have you seen of Natsu, up to what arc exactly?

every single one

Since when was Naruto the first ever character to ever give speeches during fights?

naruto was created first...that is what I meant

@bold: Yeah so? Thats what main characters do. They give inspiring speeches that make them memorable. Are you new to shonen or something?

which reinforces my point: goku/naruto/luffy/gon/ichigo/natsu = typical generic shounen MC's

Kiritsugu Emiya is not the greatest character in anime and he did wear another attire as an adult like this one.

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@ bold simply put there is not another more relatable character in anime...also nice nitpicking...kiritsugu donned that outfit after the series fate/zero came to an end
 

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because's he's the most relatable...that is the the most simple explination

plus his ideology is based on the realist of all realisms:

[video=youtube;6wyk5tGYTjY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wyk5tGYTjY[/video]

I've seen fate/zero and he's average to good but nowhere the best MC of all anime.
 

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Sounds like you haven't seen any as you name his attacks. Although even in comparison to Naruto thats a lot more than what he does.

naruto was created first...that is what I meant

So what that does not make him better. By your logic Goku is the greatest ever character.

which reinforces my point: goku/naruto/luffy/gon/ichigo/natsu = typical generic shounen MC's

Lmao Ichigo is not your typical Shonen hero. Your point wasn't even that by the way. Don't try to change it to make it seem you had actual logic in the first place.

@ bold simply put there is not another more relatable character in anime...also nice nitpicking...kiritsugu donned that outfit after the series fate/zero came to an end

So let me get this straight. A dude whose village got attacked by Zombies, who got saved by some lady who was a loner assassin. Who started training military style by the same women. Became a expert assassin through her is relatable to you? Seriously???? Lol

You must have a sad life.
 

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Sounds like you haven't seen any as you name his attacks. Although even in comparison to Naruto thats a lot more than what he does.

natsu's fire variations is no different from naruto's rasengan variations.

So what that does not make him better. By your logic Goku is the greatest ever character.

I was not comparing the characters you retard...I called natsu's speech giving a ripoff of naruto's because naruto came first...plain and ****ing simple.

Lmao Ichigo is not your typical Shonen hero. Your point wasn't even that by the way. Don't try to change it to make it seem you had actual logic in the first place.

have you even read bleach?...ichigo during the soul society arc was 110% pure shounen bullshit

So let me get this straight. A dude whose village got attacked by Zombies, who got saved by some lady who was a loner assassin. Who started training military style by the same women. Became a expert assassin through her is relatable to you? Seriously???? Lol

nice job of admitting you have 0 comprehension skills...OBVIOUSLY I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MAGICAL SITUATIONS he was put into...I was referring to his ideologies :sdo: and the manner in which me made his decisions

You must have a sad life.

I live a half life
 

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natsu's fire variations is no different from naruto's rasengan variations.

How so? Show me three moves of Natsu that look the same.

I was not comparing the characters you retard...I called natsu's speech giving a ripoff of naruto's because naruto came first...plain and ****ing simple.

Irrelevant point. Naruto is not a original character either so don't make statements you cannot back got it?

have you even read bleach?...ichigo during the soul society arc was 110% pure shounen bullshit

No I have watched Bleach. I don't read manga. And nope Ichigo is more like Yusuke Urameshi. He gets into trouble a lot. Has a very carefree personality. NEXT!

nice job of admitting you have 0 comprehension skills...OBVIOUSLY I WAS NOT TALKING ABOUT THE MAGICAL SITUATIONS he was put into...I was referring to his ideologies :sdo: and the manner in which me made his decisions

His ideologies was of a killer. Either to kill more people to save one person or kill one person to save more people. Yes highly relatable this, as we all are put into this situation in daily part of our lives.


I live a half life

I see. Your other life is spewing bullshit you don't even know right?
 

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How so? Show me three moves of Natsu that look the same.

is this a joke?...natsu has more than 3 different versions of his own roar

Irrelevant point. Naruto is not a original character either so don't make statements you cannot back got it?

it's not irrelevant just because you don't like it...if you don't like then do something about it...oh wait :sdo:

No I have watched Bleach. I don't read manga. And nope Ichigo is more like Yusuke Urameshi. He gets into trouble a lot. Has a very carefree personality. NEXT!

ichigo was naruto during the sasuke retrival arc in the soul society arc. NEXT!

His ideologies was of a killer. Either to kill more people to save one person or kill one person to save more people. Yes highly relatable this, as we all are put into this situation in daily part of our lives.

no...he has the ideologies of a realist...look up the definition of realism...you know the most relatable human trait one can display in an anime series...unless your brain cells haven't regressed enough as it is this should be simple.


I see. Your other life is spewing bullshit you don't even know right?

you stole my line siegfried
 

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I dropped it right before the Tartoros arc. Shit was getting retarded man. I just couldn't deal with it.

The only character I ever liked in Fairy Tail was Gajeel

To keep it a stack, only reasons I watch/read FT is because of Erza and Laxus

OT: I give Naruto credit for.....shit its hard to give him credit when he doesnt really do shit. Not giving up....
 

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Naruto's ninja way. Despite people trying to break his will, he never gave up. He stuck to who he was and was able to break Sasuke's will and show him the light.

Naruto also deserves credit for his TNJ.
 

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He is able to forgive people who are directly or indirectly responsible for his pain and suffering making him a greater person than anyone.
 

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is this a joke?...natsu has more than 3 different versions of his own roar

He doesn't do just the roar though. If you think he does than you really don't know what you are talking about. Once again list me those moves I asked for.


it's not irrelevant just because you don't like it...if you don't like then do something about it...oh wait :sdo:

You posted a nothing arguement that does nothing for you. This once again is another one. Either posts facts or shut up.

ichigo was naruto during the sasuke retrival arc in the soul society arc. NEXT!sdo:

How? Show me the similiarities you see.


no...he has the ideologies of a realist...look up the definition of realism...you know the most relatable human trait one can display in an anime series...unless your brain cells haven't regressed enough as it is this should be simple.

Show me his relatable aspects instead of spewing bullshit. I don't need to look up anything when you provided nothing for your arguement.


you stole my line siegfried

You never made up this line so it wasn't yours. Once again back up your arguement with facts. Otherwise stop wasting your time on forums debating. You don't even have any arguements besides name calling when someone does not agree with you.
 

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He doesn't do just the roar though. If you think he does than you really don't know what you are talking about. Once again list me those moves I asked for.

3 different versions of his own roar= the same ****ing move


You posted a nothing arguement that does nothing for you. This once again is another one. Either posts facts or shut up.

this was not an argument...natsu's speech giving is a naruto ripoff because naruto came first...if I was comparing naruto and goku then who is the ripoff?...don't get mad just because you don't know how to read

How? Show me the similiarities you see.

NAME THE SIMILARITIES?...lmaoooo thanks for admitting you never watched bleach a day in your life...it was EVEN WORSE for ichigo during the soul society arc because he was obsessed with saving someone he JUST MET as opposed to naruto


Show me his relatable aspects instead of spewing bullshit. I don't need to look up anything when you provided nothing for your arguement.

you are a ****ing retard who does not understand the concept of realism...which is wh you need everything spoon fed to you.

re·al·ism
ˈrē(ə)ˌlizəm/
noun
1.
the attitude or practice of accepting a situation as it is and being prepared to deal with it accordingly.
"the summit was marked by a new mood of realism"
synonyms: pragmatism, practicality, common sense, levelheadedness
"optimism tinged with realism"
2.
the quality or fact of representing a person, thing, or situation accurately or in a way that is true to life.
"the earthy realism of Raimu's characters"
synonyms: authenticity, fidelity, verisimilitude, truthfulness, faithfulness
"a degree of realism"

do you want to see a an act of realism compared to a main character's chivalry by the great kiritsugu?

[video=youtube;6wyk5tGYTjY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wyk5tGYTjY[/video]

You never made up this line so it wasn't yours. Once again back up your arguement with facts. Otherwise stop wasting your time on forums debating. You don't even have any arguements besides name calling when someone does not agree with you.

oh yea?...what you just typed right here is what applies to the 99% of people on THIS retarded forum who rehash the same threads over and over again...UNLIKE THEM my comments are not catering to a specific fanbase...it is catering to kiritsugu emiya being the greatest MC of all time...you just don't like what you read because you know I'm right.

ps name calling?...since when did you have the heart of a god damn 12 yr old?...don't get mad because natsu dragneel is a terrible to average at best character (fairy tail itself is a terrible to average at best series)
 
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he is like a loyal dog towards sasuke so i guess he is ok on that front. everything else about him for me is straight up whack
 

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3 different versions of his own roar= the same ****ing move

Ok I will make it more clearer this time. If you don't follow up what I say this time I will literally smack every moves of his in your face. This was a blind test. Looks like you are falling more towards the blind side. Ok now read ok?

Give me three different moves of Natsu. Meaning moves with different names. No variations of the same move. Just plain out different names. If you can't give me them, it simply means you know nothing of Natsu's character. I will wait.

this was not an argument...natsu's speech giving is a naruto ripoff because naruto came first...if I was comparing naruto and goku then who is the ripoff?...don't get mad just because you don't know how to read

Once again a irrelevant point that has nothing to with what we are talking about. Natsu is not even a rip off of Naruto to begin with, even if we go by that logic. Stop repeating the same shit. Either put up facts or keep quiet.

NAME THE SIMILARITIES?...lmaoooo thanks for admitting you never watched bleach a day in your life...it was EVEN WORSE for ichigo during the soul society arc because he was obsessed with saving someone he JUST MET as opposed to naruto

Oh another personal attack with no substance added to back up your argument. I will say it again nicely. Show me evidence of how Naruto and Ichigo are similar. This has nothing to do with my lack of knowledge of the anime, it has to do with your knowledge of the anime. So stick to it and answer my question.

you are a ****ing retard who does not understand the concept of realism...which is wh you need everything spoon fed to you.

re·al·ism
ˈrē(ə)ˌlizəm/
noun
1.
the attitude or practice of accepting a situation as it is and being prepared to deal with it accordingly.
"the summit was marked by a new mood of realism"
synonyms: pragmatism, practicality, common sense, levelheadedness
"optimism tinged with realism"
2.
the quality or fact of representing a person, thing, or situation accurately or in a way that is true to life.
"the earthy realism of Raimu's characters"
synonyms: authenticity, fidelity, verisimilitude, truthfulness, faithfulness
"a degree of realism"

do you want to see a an act of realism compared to a main character's chivalry by the great kiritsugu?

[video=youtube;6wyk5tGYTjY]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wyk5tGYTjY[/video]

Oh I am very well aware of what realism is. I don't need a dictionary to know that. I see nothing in that video I have not addressed already. He is basically talking about why a assassin' would kill a person. His mindset is pretty much Itachi like. Yet I don't see anyone calling him a realistic character. I doubt you understand even half of what he is saying.

oh yea?...what you just typed right here is what applies to the 99% of people on THIS retarded forum who rehash the same threads over and over again...UNLIKE THEM my comments are not catering to a specific fanbase...it is catering to kiritsugu emiya being the greatest MC of all time...you just don't like what you read because you know I'm right.

I have debated with loads of people. You on the other hand are by far the worst. You don't back up what you say. Instead make silly claims about your favorite. None of your posts hold any form of content to be taken seriously. You make edgy comments just to get attention. Make them seem like they are facts when they are clearly not.

ps name calling?...since when did you have the heart of a god damn 12 yr old?...don't get mad because natsu dragneel is a terrible to average at best character (fairy tail itself is a terrible to average at best series)

I call it how I see it. And I see nothing here but rubbish. Please be serious next time unless this is all you got?
 

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Ok I will make it more clearer this time. If you don't follow up what I say this time I will literally smack every moves of his in your face. This was a blind test. Looks like you are falling more towards the blind side. Ok now read ok?

:lmao: no need to take the bold seriously...also since when were you smart enough to administer tests? surely a shit series like fairy tail is not enough to garner actual questions that needed to be answered yes?

Give me three different moves of Natsu. Meaning moves with different names. No variations of the same move. Just plain out different names. If you can't give me them, it simply means you know nothing of Natsu's character. I will wait.

are you trolling?...no seriously?...this has jack shit to do with my comment natsu having different variations of ****ing fire...unless you think fire dragon's claw roar and punch are not variations but ACTUAL DIFFERENT MOVES...

his lightning dragon mode is another wash rince and repeat...natsu is a luffy and ace ripoff lolololololol

Once again a irrelevant point that has nothing to with what we are talking about. Natsu is not even a rip off of Naruto to begin with, even if we go by that logic. Stop repeating the same shit. Either put up facts or keep quiet.

natsu is a naruto ripoff

Oh another personal attack with no substance added to back up your argument. I will say it again nicely. Show me evidence of how Naruto and Ichigo are similar. This has nothing to do with my lack of knowledge of the anime, it has to do with your knowledge of the anime. So stick to it and answer my question.

thanks for admitting don't know how to read...naruto during sasuke's retrieval and ichigo during the soul society were the ****ing same (in terms of GOALS and MOTIVATIONS)...ichigo claimed to be able to "protect all his friends" during the arc...lolololololol

ichigo knew rukia shorter than naruto knew sasuke...ichigo was a clown during the arc and was only able to keep promises of bringing rukia back due to epic advances in the plotof course they aren't the EXACT same type of character...they are still both sterotypical shounen protagonists...do youunderstand? (don't worry cause I am sure your dumbass does not)

Oh I am very well aware of what realism is. I don't need a dictionary to know that. I see nothing in that video I have not addressed already. He is basically talking about why a assassin' would kill a person. His mindset is pretty much Itachi like. Yet I don't see anyone calling him a realistic character. I doubt you understand even half of what he is saying.

it's because you have an IQ of 2 so don't worry...kiritsugu is WAYYYY different from itachi...a guy who was given a choice to murder his own clan or revolt against the village...kiritsugu was never given a choice...he took things into his own hands by cleasing the world of people with no regard for CHIVALRY (itachi is not a MC you retard)

- itachi spared kabuto because he thought kabuto could change.

- kiritsugu killed and betrayed kayneth because he was in the way of the holy grail.

^^ two completely different approaches to the method of battle.

what saber was talking about was hypocrisy...why show chilvary to the enemy you are going to cut down IN A WAR?...it is called a ****ing war for a reason...don't condemn kiritsugu for his method of killing when it all comes down to the same thing.

this is where kiritsugu differs from the rest of the generic main characters in manga/anime

I have debated with loads of people. You on the other hand are by far the worst. You don't back up what you say. Instead make silly claims about your favorite. None of your posts hold any form of content to be taken seriously. You make edgy comments just to get attention. Make them seem like they are facts when they are clearly not.

so basically you are scared of me :bdpf: you know your *****ing and moaning would have held more weight if everything you typed was not easily disproved...oh well...ps what comments have I ever posed that were not backed up by facts?

I call it how I see it. And I see nothing here but rubbish. Please be serious next time unless this is all you got?

:lmao:
 
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