Sasuke(EMS)vs.The Five Kages
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u must have shit for brains if u reali believe that, what good is ms without Amaterasu, Susanoo, Tsukuyomi..each were either shown to or given to suske by itachi, if suske was so superior why was suske after handouts? oro went after itachi at full health and lost his hand. oro's eye for talent is good as a blind persons..i said he will never surpass itachi b'cuz suske ms n ems was a gift from itachi to suske so by him gaining power with itachi's eyes dusn show much for him...susanoo stages arent to do with skill..its power which itachi didn't have much of cuz he was sick..n itachi dusn draw power from hate..since his not an 'avenger' ..i thought suske awakened his sharingan in haku fight? how did itachi bak him into a corner? did itachi tel him to go suck oro's snake? no he went cuz some dead-beat overtook him, did itachi tel him to go do d same wit tobi/madara? no its actuali opposite to wat itachi wanted, itachi said so himslf..and this were his choices.
i'm ot even gona bother wit u regarding the kages if ur keen jus go up and read the previous posts
u need to go read the manga again...mayb this time u'l actuali understand what was going on
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Rafeal brown
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Lets face it itachi didn't give sasuke ms. Sasuke had a different version of ms being able to control amaterasu and itachi was able to control time/space in his genjutsu, if anyone is to re-read the manga its u, give me 150 reasons why u fink its itachi gave him ms then i'll beleive u, saying sasuke wasn't as talented as itachi was bullshit cuz sasuke is ten times the man itachi will ever be yes unlike itachi sasuke choose to suck snakes **** rather than kill his best friend for ms itachi killed shisui and evryone in his family, i never said oro was stronger than itachi, its very obvious sasuke has surpassed itachi even madara said sasuke has high potential, kyuubi said sasuke chakra is more sinister than his own unlike madara. itachi is the source of sasuke pains yes itachi was ready to sacrifice anyone for his beloved bro and leaf but he did more damage to sasuke than good even if he gives sasuke his eyes its not enough to pay him back for the pain he caused him don't get me wrong itachi was a secret hero to evryone but was a monster to his bro. Back on topic sasuke is above kage level sayin mizukage can defend against amaterasu is bullshit it was a plot no jutsu when sasuke ran out of chakra against her during kage summit kishi never wanted sasuke to kill her moreover her acid mist couldn't fully melt susanoo's rib how much more a complete susanoo, as for tschikage sasuke can tank his dust release with yata mirror, raikage had to sacrifice an arm to lay a finger on him and would've ended up loosin an arm and leg against sasuke. It cost him an arm and leg to defeat susanoo's bones, gaara is weak against lightning so his sand can't tank kirin the strongest lightnin base jutsu we've seen so far in the manga, tsunade would've been trouble if she was at full health she would rely on her regeneration jutsu but she can't, the last time she used it was when she tried to save evryone from shinra tensei and she went into comma so she can't use it anymore or will mean her death even if she does she can't regenrate from smthin that won't stop until you are smoke and aches or should i say smthin as hot as the sun(amaterasu)
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i dont need 150 i jus need 3,
1. he cast Tsukuyomi on suske(without doing much damage to him) so suske could learn it himself
2. during their fight he used Amaterasu and later planted in his eyes
3. he awakened susanoo, to extract oro from his ass and show susanoo to him
suske got his ems by getin itachi's eyes...cuz thats wat itachi wanted, if itachi wanted ems for himself he could have easily defeated suske and taken it..buh there was no point since life was coming to an end... i'm not 100% about this, but i also think he was watching over suske even after he left the village...wateva itachi did, he did it for suske
n why is suske all emo bt his life? he at least got to see his parents, shared a bond wit his brother, naruto on the other hand was hated by evry1 including suske himself...but naruto worked hard to gain peoples recognition suske took the opposite path..so its not itachi fault suske went emo..it was his own choosing
Sorry to burst your bubble but sasuke isent as talented as itachi,
itachi is better at Genjutsu, taijutsu and Ninjutsu (i say ninjutsu because of the speed of his hand seals) he is also much faster,
He is also better at using tsukuyomi and susanoo (since he can activate a fully formed susanoo in almost an instant) sasuke's But sasuke is better at using amaterasu
From what we have seen from sasuke since itachi died (with no ems) is nothing special tbh he just Spams Ms jutsu's and hope he gets lucky
Even zetzu said even with itachi almost completely blind and almost dead he could of still killed sasuke if he wanted, sasuke really hasn't Gained much Skills since HE gains Ms like i said he has relyed on it and spams it
Dragonfly X
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Yeah, maybe he could've gotten tsunade, but with the other kages on his back i'm sure they would protect her, or maybe she would summon the huge slug and block it, and he would still have to catch her, amaterasu is a one person at a time jutsu. Unless he can suddenly hit 5 people at once, all moving, dodging, and firing jutsu back at him, he's screwed...
i never said that it was easy and i even provided good evidence why sasuke would have good chance at winning the fight but you juts don't see any of my points and respond to other things like the kages are there for a reason. I kno that they are and i mention how the battle is hard in one of my posts above but dude you cannot deny that he is mad strong after the ems, he is using itachi's eyes and gets his abilities and you kno that he can spam all of his techs and he has a decntly big chkra reserve becoz you have seen him spamming all his techs in the kage summit. And most of the kages how are they gonna deal with itachi lvl genjutsu, you are not giving an argumment to stuff like that and just saying that they are kages, yes kages are strong but they are not unbeatable, and i talk about how he can beat them, but you just keep not giving good arguments to my points and just say that they are kages, dude i get it that you hate sasuke , i have seen from your previous posts how he just gets his abilities form itachi and stuff but undoubtedly he is close madara's lvl which is pretty clear no matter how stupid and retarted he is. and for you asking why is he madara's bitch, that is because he is stupid and would do anything for revenge and just believes everything that madara says.
I gotta agree with that last whole paragraph becos it is your choice in the end to go good or bad. naruto and Gaara had the most shitty lives in the world. Naruto did not have parents and was hated by everyone in the village just becos he had the kyubi inside him, he could not make friends easily and always had to be in solitude and anyone else would have been so angry that they would lose control to the kyubi and kill everyone but he decided no matter what to try to have friends and even changed ppl like who were going in the wrong path. Sasuke although he went through a lot of pain he decided to go to any extents to get power and turned him to be just evil no matter how good his friends like naruto were he always chose to forsake it all for power, which is his mostly his own fault.
Inclement Weather
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Karin gave him chakra and sensed the time gap in Danzo's Sharingan. You should read the manga more.
1. A was struggling to break a weak sasuno'o that only had ribs or w.e... his sasuno'o upgrades a few times after that..
2. His arrows are fast as stated by danzo and when kakashi say's he could not dodge it..
3. When he first started to fight bee, bee was stronger than him but as the fight when on sasuke learned more about MS by the time he realized how to use the black flames bee really had no hope..He fought bee without knowing sasuno'o and in a rematch could beat him in one move by just using the black flames in the beginning.
4. Karin did not really help sasuke much vs danzo but what she did do was warn sasuke about that first sneak attack.. if that makes you think danzo is stronger than your an idiot..
5.none of the kages can break a FULL SASUNO'O... i do not really see how people are saying sasuke could lose 1v1..
6. We really do not know what ems will do but since it will most likely be his last power up he will be able to defeat them because he might already be able to compete with all 5.
7. Sasuke is not dumb at all he always figures out his opponents justus and out to counter them and comes up with very smart plans during battles.
2. His arrows are fast as stated by danzo and when kakashi say's he could not dodge it..
3. When he first started to fight bee, bee was stronger than him but as the fight when on sasuke learned more about MS by the time he realized how to use the black flames bee really had no hope..He fought bee without knowing sasuno'o and in a rematch could beat him in one move by just using the black flames in the beginning.
4. Karin did not really help sasuke much vs danzo but what she did do was warn sasuke about that first sneak attack.. if that makes you think danzo is stronger than your an idiot..
5.none of the kages can break a FULL SASUNO'O... i do not really see how people are saying sasuke could lose 1v1..
6. We really do not know what ems will do but since it will most likely be his last power up he will be able to defeat them because he might already be able to compete with all 5.
7. Sasuke is not dumb at all he always figures out his opponents justus and out to counter them and comes up with very smart plans during battles.
Rafeal brown
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Sorry u misunderstood me i never said sasuke was stronger than itachi. At sasukes (pre-ems) level itachi might still win in a fight against him but not bcuz he is more talented its bcuz he is above sasukes level, its like me comparing sasuke when he was a genin to itachi when he was a chunin, is that fair? Sasuke isn't at itachi's level yet so yes a pre-ems sasuke might lose to itachi. Itachi ninjutsu are insanely fast but he isn't better than sasuke at using ninjutsu sasukes fire style is atleast on par with itachi's fire style and u can agree with me that sasuke's lightnin jutsu>itachi's water style kirin and chidori nagash is proof of that yes itachi is faster and his taijutsu is better but sasuke is better than even samurai's in the use of sword(thankz to his lightnen jutsu its impossible to defend against his katana sword) talkin abt talent yes itachi and shisui were praised by the uchiha clan and considered special but unfortunately they didn't get to discover sasuke's potential but anyway madara discovered it and is happy he won sasuke over.
Rafeal brown
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You are wrong! Sasuke never sought to become powerful for his selfish reasons he sought powers so he could avenge his clan and there's a diff btw having a happy like then loosin it than havin none from the start, so u don't knw how it hurts when u lose it and again sasuke was like naruto he wasn't hated but he knws the pain of being alone naruto would never understand sasuke's feelings he knws nearly evryones pains but not sasuke's thats why sasuke needs to knw how naruto and sakura feels abt him perhaps he might have a change of heart, but mind u sasuke once gave his life up for naruto against haku also against oro, sasuke grew further into the dark when itachi and kisame visited the leaf and blamed sasuke for being weak due to inadequate amount of hatred(damn you itachi!!!!! Why can't u leave the poor kid alone)
i never said he was weak..i said his cockiness+inexperience would be his downfall
the reason for my point about them being kages...genjutsu works best against people with low intelligence and/or will, a kage would be strong in both of those...plus jus b'cuz itachi's eyes dusn mean he gets itachi's skills...the power of the genjutsu is dependent of the user's intelligence..here suske def dusn compare to itachi.
also as u may kno, power isnt everything in battle...a gud head is also needed to win(back to my first line)
dude i agree i even said mostly his fault, dude oro is a bad guy unless you are only thinking about power you would not go there, Itachi is part to blame but after all the support his friends gave and even came back to save him he should have realized it there, no but instead he went to oro's side.
sasuke was never really dumb u kno that right he was just in a rush to kill danzo, see his other battles he is not that reckless, and when he uses ems he gains itachi's powers becos madara says that both of the powers of the eyes become together or something like that but here is a link
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And even without dude he used genjutsu on danzo and that guy is not dumb he is very cunning. Itachi lvl genjutsu can't just be repelled by ppl who are smart otherwise shikamaru would be the perfect counter to genjutsu, that is just not right.