yes i get what you're saying how he is immature and stuff and that is a major reason he can't be put in the same class as madara but he is still has his powers and i'm basing the category solely on power and clearly outclasses the kages just in pure abilities because he was given most of them but he still has amazing abilities that none of the kages could beat 1v1. Dude i already sgreed with you that he is immature and stupid but i don't think he underestimates them anymore after what happened in the kage summit and you can never be 100% sure if sasuke was going to die because he still had a shield of flames so move on that doesn't matter anymore because him with ems would not be in such a situation again and it is not only A who benefits from fighting them b4 but also sasuke cause he knos that he can't be that cocky and if still charges like he used to and makes unreasonable actions then he is brain dead. I am saying he would win 1v1 and dude don't talk about his personality if you disagree with me say how other kages can beat him and use evidence not just opinion. And read the links i sent you dude it would make sense it is based on the manga and databook.first of all let me clear something...i never said anything about him being weak.
madara is a legendary figure in narutoverse, do u understand what that means? if u did u wudn put suske in the same category..thats what i am saying. that is also why i dont think tobi is madara, b'cuz even though madara was 'evil' he was a man of principal..this tobi guy just sounds like a nutcase.
if gaara didn stop raikage..suske would have been dead raikage would have lost 2 limbs...u tell me wats worse
use ur common sense how far was suske away from kakashi, but kakashi had enough time to be able to use his MS ability, i'm not saying its slow but thats enough time to dodge it(taking into consideration the distance)
"He did not lose against A and was overwhelmed by using Ms too much but now that is no longer a problem" ..those were ur exact words, he was overwhelmed and with ems it wont b a problem? he wasnt tired from pain, he was running low on chakra..he dusn evn kno how much chakra the susanoo drains (when he was using it with kakashi, he was powering it up but instead it disappeared)
look i agree suske all powerful, but he shows alot of immaturity in battle, which is something the kages are more than capable of taking advantage. and due to the way he got his powers and abuses them and the fact his getin used like a bitch...i personali cant put him in the same category as madara
Sasuke(EMS)vs.The Five Kages
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TheMaster1
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hmm well 1 v 1, he'd beat
tsunade (shes past her prime)
gaara (elemental advantage)
thats bt it,
i stil think he cant beat raikage...the difference in chakra level and experience is too great..all he has to do is play it smart and make suske drain his chakra..after that his taijutsu's are one hit k.o's
onoki's dust release is a 1 hit k.o. as well
mei's acid release is too much for suske to handle
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no man that is just wrong if oonoki's abilities are a one hit ko then why is he scared of madara and he himself thinks that he could have beaten all the 5 kages by himself with his powers. Oonoki fought madara and knows that madara is mad strong because he probably got his ass raped, and susano would block him and not only that he is not fast enough to dodge amterasu or the arrows(which are fast just cause danzo says it doesn't fake it not true and kakashi could only avoid it because he has kamui and is pretty good with it now) mei has no chance sorry amaterasu, arrows and the sword of totsuka is too much. A is the only one who has the best chance to win but he can't just run forever because sasuke can destroy his surroundings and consrtict A and attack him till he can't dodge but that is only indoors and A is not a tactical ninja dude he would try to attack all he can and sasuke can use tsukiyomi becos it is now at itachi's lvl because he has his eyes i sent you a link go read that so he can get caught in tsukiyomi and A has no intel on that move so it would work. But it can go either way more likely towards sasuke becos of all his spamming abilities
i'm not too sure when he fought madara but that s-t jutsu is what saved suske..so it dusn reali work on madara? plus if ucompare the age onoki wud b much younger than madara..probabli could wipe out the kages, his fight in the war with his mentor..his mentor said to him, u better fight me u know numbers mean nothing when it comes to my jutsu i.e dust release and onoki's like i know ..something along those lines
..i duno if madara raped his ass or not, he stil has his body..after fight with hashi tobi/madara is all goo lol
i duno how fast he is..buh his preti quick in the air so we can only speculate
to shoot arrows suske will have form susanoo first..which he cant with the acid mist, and his black flames can be block wit lava...but it costs suske more chakra so i'd go wit mei on that fight
we havnt reali seen raikage fight besides that fight with suske...and u have to admit raikage had the upper hand, plus now that both parties are aware of each others moves 'm sure they'l be more strategic i their approach. yes A has intel on suske now since dose the cloud ninjas went to konoha and took down suske's info, plus with the joined shinobi alliance all info is shared and i dont think it'l b that easi to put an experienced kage under genjutsu
as far as i'm aware we agree to that..we'r jus dicussing 1v1 for lols i guess lol
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Kakashi Fang
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even konoha won't kno about sasuke's arrow because it his variation and kakashi does not kno its ability becos he sucked it up it is a one hit ko which danzo knos but he is dead. so he would eventually even try to attack it and kno what it actually does which is a one hit ko. mei is nothing for sasuke amaterasu is too fast for mei, mei can't turn into acid that fast dude it takes atleast like 5 second read the manga again so arrows would probably hit and what would she do about his genjutsu especially tsukiyomi. Oonoki is also vulnerable to genjutsu but we can't say how fast he is though. BTW he has itachi's powers and genjustsu i am repeating so now just to let you kno asauke is a genjustsu master so he might be even able to get A under it but like you said he probably knos about it so he will try to avoid but in a fight where sasuke is spammng is eventul to make eye contact.
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dude..ur givin suske too much credit...i mentioned konoha's intel b'cuz from that they cna gather suske's fighting style..and kakashi knows about the arrow since his seen it happen..u dun have to get hit by it!
can u read? all mei has to do is spit lava on the black flame and its blocked, he dusn jus shoot arrows from his ass he has to awaken susanoo first thats more than enough time for mei to turn the air in acid...at that state suske cnt evn breathe let alone cast a genjutsu...onoki jus hav to avoid suske's eyes..he fought and survived madara so suske sudn b a prob, yea he has itachi's powers but not itachi's skills..itachi was capable of casting genjutsu through his finger as well as the eyes. suske is not a genjutsu master...itachi was a genjutsu master...suske dusn evn compare...raikage is a much greater taijutsu master than guy..guy said he is able to fight kakashi avoiding the sharingan..A could do the same ...stop wit ur lame arguments..at the end of the day they are al kages, suske's s-class
dude aren't you underestimating saske with ems a little too much, dude he has to be super powerful in order to fight against naruto but thats just the plot and i don't like mentioning that someone is strong becos they important to the plot but sasuke is really obvious and the fact that he is near madara's lvl. And about itachi's skills yes sasuke has the same eyes, he probably won't have the skill to use his fingers but one look in your eye and it is done. If oonoki avoids his eyes oonoki less effective and can might get hit by arrows or amaterasu and it is hard not to make eye contact no matter what. As for A just because guy does that doesn't mean he can and the reason guy can fight without looking is beacsue he constantly trains and fights kakashi so he took time to counter it, so who did A train with to stop the sharingan no one cause kumo does not have sharingans, stop making narrow minded assumptions like that comparing guy and A. Mei you are giving her way too much credit how can she stop amaterasu with lava fast enough even she does she can get caught in his tsukiyomi or other genjutsu abilities. Ranks like S-class have been able to take out kages like oro taking out the kazekage and hiruzen so stop talking about ranks because S-class criminals can vary in skill some even better than kages.dude..ur givin suske too much credit...i mentioned konoha's intel b'cuz from that they cna gather suske's fighting style..and kakashi knows about the arrow since his seen it happen..u dun have to get hit by it!
can u read? all mei has to do is spit lava on the black flame and its blocked, he dusn jus shoot arrows from his ass he has to awaken susanoo first thats more than enough time for mei to turn the air in acid...at that state suske cnt evn breathe let alone cast a genjutsu...onoki jus hav to avoid suske's eyes..he fought and survived madara so suske sudn b a prob, yea he has itachi's powers but not itachi's skills..itachi was capable of casting genjutsu through his finger as well as the eyes. suske is not a genjutsu master...itachi was a genjutsu master...suske dusn evn compare...raikage is a much greater taijutsu master than guy..guy said he is able to fight kakashi avoiding the sharingan..A could do the same ...stop wit ur lame arguments..at the end of the day they are al kages, suske's s-class
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i dont know wat the ems will grant him..neither do u, and nowhere did i say it will be weak. if u read carefully what i am saying is the kages wont be push overs just b'cuz suske's got ems...they were chosen as kage for a reason. i said suske WILL lose 5 v 1, and 1v1 the kages individuali are capable of dealing with him even with ems (cept for tsunade and gaara). if u dont understand that much theres no point in this debate is there?
the way ur putting it the kages don't stand a chance, if thats the case why is he still tobi/madara's bitch
not everyone is as retarded as u
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Rafeal brown
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Rafeal brown
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What the hell are u talking about? Sasuke didn't get ms from itachi, sasuke awakened his own mengekyo which i beleive is superior to itachi's sasuke is more talented than itachi even oro said sasuke will surpass itachi, madara also beleives in sasuke he beleives sasuke will surpass nagato with ems and so wht abt gainin ems from itachi? Its like me sayin kyuubi's chakra is not part of naruto powers cuz they were given to him, does that make sense? And sayin sasuke will never surpass itachi is bullshit sasuke is better at using amaterasu and a weak genjutsu when used in the right way can be as dangerous as a powerful one, so yes sasuke is on par with itachi's in genjutsu afterall his tskuyomi is useless against sasuke as for susanoo we didn't get to see sasuke 3rd stage susanoo mind you sasuke 2nd stage had bow and arrow whereas itachi 2nd stage had nothing so its safe to assume that sasuke is more talented than itachi, we are talkin about the same guy who came up with an s rank jutsu in less than 3yrs how many ninjas can boast of an s ranked jutsu? Sasuke awakened the sharingan and learnt fire style jutsu at 7yrs(he wasn't a genin) whereas itachi awakened his and learnt fire style at 8yrs and was a genin at that time. Sasuke has been acting stupid lately and its itachi's fault he pushed sasuke into the dark side and i hate him for doing so. Finally we can conclude that Sasuke>>>> itachi. Back on topic sasuke wouldn't lose in a one on one fight but i see him losing five on one mizukage and tschukage fought a weakened sasuke theres no way mizukage can own sasuke in full power amaterasu is all he needs, gaara might proof difficult to handle but kirin is all he needs, chidori nagash is all he needs against tsunade lol, raikage can't do a thing against susanoo he can't touch a burnin susanoo he might be fast but he is not faster than kirin, tschikage is the only one who would give sasuke a problem but again sasuke has the yata mirror which deflect all things including his dust release so susanoo arrows would do the trick.
Fearmonger
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*high five*Man I have been waiting to hear something like that ever sence I made this thread a long time ago.All I kept gettin was "oh,Sasuke would get his ass whooped or Oh Sasuke wont even stand a chance A would kill him"and suchbut you finaly did this thread good,thank you for actualy thinking.