Sasuke(EMS) vs. Naruto (SM/KM/BM)
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we have seen what MADARA UCHIHAs could do , the only difference will be he wont be able to teleport or do tobis move. he doesnt have the skill with it that madara did. hes not even as good as itachi is with just MS. so stfu that EMS is some almighty power. its not. RINNEGAN IS BETTER.Amusing.
It's funny, how people form an opinion on something they don't even know. The EMS is a completely new power, but no matter, people like you know better.
cause thats never happened before:flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw::flaw:
most sasuke fanboys are smart enough to say at least kirin but, you, you take the cake with a new level of FANBITCH so walk away with some dignity [please]
Kirin CAN NOT BURST A MOUNTAIN! It destroyed an hollow building that was already wrecked from the firing of Sasuke's Fire Techniques. Stop overrating the damn technique.
Also there are Sasuke techniques that should be removed, i.e. the ones he could only preform because he had Orochimaru inside him. And also the Curse Seal is no longer with him.
Also there are Sasuke techniques that should be removed, i.e. the ones he could only preform because he had Orochimaru inside him. And also the Curse Seal is no longer with him.
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I don't get how people can honestly come to the conclusion that Naruto's better then Sasuke when we haven't seen anything of Sasuke with his EMS besides Amaterasu arrows. We haven't seen Sasuke in a single fight with his new eyes, we haven't seen how much more power the eyes have given him.
I don't think EMS Sasuke is weaker then Naruto is right now, I honestly feel that they're still equals with their new found powers, BM vs EMS. Sasuke doesn't need Rinningan, I don't think Sasuke is going to get Rinningan because we've spent over a year to just see what Sasuke's EMS looks like and now because Madara has Rinningan people all over assume Sasuke is next in line, without realizing we haven't even seen what his EMS could do and that we saw him for like 5 seconds in one chapter and then haevn't seen a lick of him since.
People are so quick to jump at the newest power ups and to look at how much stronger one character is and place them up against another character, when we haven't seen the latter's abilities in over two arcs.
I don't think EMS Sasuke is weaker then Naruto is right now, I honestly feel that they're still equals with their new found powers, BM vs EMS. Sasuke doesn't need Rinningan, I don't think Sasuke is going to get Rinningan because we've spent over a year to just see what Sasuke's EMS looks like and now because Madara has Rinningan people all over assume Sasuke is next in line, without realizing we haven't even seen what his EMS could do and that we saw him for like 5 seconds in one chapter and then haevn't seen a lick of him since.
People are so quick to jump at the newest power ups and to look at how much stronger one character is and place them up against another character, when we haven't seen the latter's abilities in over two arcs.
because we saw how extremely powerful naruto is. and its because the EMS isn't that much more special then the MS, you can just use MS techs indefinately and you get ONE new eye power. we have seen that madaras EMS can barely keep up with A. and naruto known to be faster then A will be very hard to see which bring up the point you cant hit what you cant see. like Sasukes battle against A, the truth is Sasuke didnt hurt A, A hurt himself knowing amateratsu would burn him. And what would have happened had gaara not stopped A? maybe A would be dead but we know sasuke would have been crushed by A.
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i think that they will be equal when the time comes to fight each other.. and if naruto win he will be with one foot in his grave.. the same goes for sasuke too..
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How do you know EMS isn't anything more special then MS? Yeah we seen an EMS Madara taken down rather quickly, granted he was fighting against two Kage at the time and we saw him break open a Susanoo skeleton before he decided to use Rinningan. The fact that the eyes of the shinobi differ means the results will differ for Sasuke.
We don't know what Sasuke's one power up is or if he's only going to get one power up, from what it sounded like, he's feeling the affects of power of Itachi's eyes within his own and knowing Itachi's abilities as they stood, combining Sasuke's eyes with his is something dangerous, something dangerous that we haven't seen yet.
Now the whole thing about speed, Sasuke's character has been primarily focused on his speed since an early point in time, in a month he reached Rock lee's level of speed in the chuunin exams, he's always moved at such a blur of speed, quick enough to match Itachi and A in V1 Raiton armour. Naruto's emphasis on speed came during his training of Sage mode and was further increased by KM and now BM. However considering that we have yet to see Sasuke's abilities to the fullest in a fight I don't see how the bare assumption that Sasuke's going to loose or that he needs a power up.
Susanoo, strong defense, I see TBB getting through it but what else has Sasuke gained yet? We don't know
How's Sasuke's defense become stronger if that, maybe Sasuke got faster huh? maybe Sasuke's Tsukuyomi finally became as strong or stronger then Itachi's? Maybe some hidden ability that we've never seen has come into Sasuke's possession to make him a match for Naruto.
We don't know this, we don't know anything about Sasuke's EMS powers right now. That's the point I'm getting at.
The abscence of evidence is not the evidence of absence. What I'm saying is, just because we haven't seen anything amazing demonstreaded from EMS yet, doesn't mean there isn't.
Considering we haven't seen it's powers yet, and plot no jutsu (Kishi's intent) leaves us to believe that the more recent Naruto and Sasuke are equals, don't you think that before another power up is given that the first one, that we've waited over a year to just see, is going to be emphasised first? Don't you think that Naruto's demonstration of his powers is just going to have Kishi turn around and have something just as spectacular in store for Sasuke for the sake of the plot?
Good Job bringing all those together.. Naruto is clearly on the Level of his own but I m Quite sure that this new development is still not enough to beat Sasuke.
EMS's power is still unknown to us. For all that we know Sasuke's EMS might be much better than that of Madara whose power we still don't know fully about..
Nevertheless Naruto will be able to awaken Sasuke from darkness but it will clearly be an epic battle( both of them will have to go all out, otherwise it wouldn't be much at all)
Present Naruto is still not enough to deal with Sasuke, he will be after he completely masters BM.. well thats what I believe..
EMS's power is still unknown to us. For all that we know Sasuke's EMS might be much better than that of Madara whose power we still don't know fully about..
Nevertheless Naruto will be able to awaken Sasuke from darkness but it will clearly be an epic battle( both of them will have to go all out, otherwise it wouldn't be much at all)
Present Naruto is still not enough to deal with Sasuke, he will be after he completely masters BM.. well thats what I believe..
because all im trying to show is that, using Madara as a model who was said to be the strong of the uchiha blessed with everything that an uchiha could be. An unstoppable shinobi who could control the nine taill with his eyes thats how powerful they were. and you think sasuke is goa beat him out like that? thats just laughable.
Now on to Reborn,
1. it was by a rasenshuriken actually, and are you saying BM naruto is weaker then a kage yet able to fight 5 TAILED BEASTS? how thats very logical.
2.even if he got itachis eye powers he wouldnt automaticly be a genjutsu master, itchaci spealized in geenjutsu thats why his tyskomi was so powerful and thats why sasukes amaterasu is stronger then itachis because sasuke was always more ninjutsu based then anything else.
3.Yes in part 1 sasuke was faster them naruto, but think back he outclassed naruto in every way back then, which is why sasuke fanboys cant accept that naruto is stronger now, and keep up with A? he couldnt hit him with amateratsu and all he has to do is look at them so keep up my ass he couldnt even look at him long enough to burn him.
4. this is part of two itachis tyskiomi was special to him like blaze release is special to sasuke, hwy do you think itachio doesnt have blaze release and why do you think C said that his genjutsu was good but not on par with itachi.
This thread is pointless, becuase we have seen hardly anything from EMS Sasuke.
Sasuke wont have any new power up in near future. He just got one recenlty, and he still has to show off what he can really do with it.
Rinnegan for Sasuke? Nope. Madara awakaned Rinnegan shortly before his death, and he had Hashiramas cells for quite some time. Seemingly, it was not an easy task to completely subdue them.
Sasuke wont have any new power up in near future. He just got one recenlty, and he still has to show off what he can really do with it.
Rinnegan for Sasuke? Nope. Madara awakaned Rinnegan shortly before his death, and he had Hashiramas cells for quite some time. Seemingly, it was not an easy task to completely subdue them.
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1. The five Kage would have an easier time fighting against 5 bijuu then two jounin, don't you think? I'm pretty sure Kage class shinobi would pose a great deal of challenge to bijuu. Don't forget Naruto is fighting the Bijuu with KB's help you can't forget that. Also if you take a look at the size of Naruto right now and the bijuu they're all like same height so it's like a fair 2v5 (if you can call that fair). You can't say Naruto is fighting his battle alone so don't make it sound like he's all that, calm down buddy.
I don't even know where Rasenshuriken came up, never in my post.
You obviously don't get what I'm saying, you don't know, we don't know, NOBODY KNOWS what powers Sasuke could get, and how much stronger his powers become based on the combine strength of Itachi and Sasuke. You don't even know what hidden powers he may get. I'm not saying any which way that those were definate things, but you can't say either that Sasuke's genjutsu won't be as strong or stronger then Itachi's, you don't know how Kishi's plot no jutsu is going to affect Sasuke. You don't know, I don't know, again, NOBODY KNOWS, meaning you can't conclude Naruto>Sasuke or Sasuke>Naruto there is no way of telling at this point in time. You're making the aruguments on what we've seen from Naruto...But we're not talking about Naruto, we know what Naruto can do, I've read the manga to the recent chapters, I know all of this about Naruto, but know nothing on Sasuke concerning his EMS besides Amaterasu arrows. What do you know about Sasuke's EMS? Please enlighten men if you do and the rest of the base because we don't have a clue. Tell us what Sasuke has from his EMS abilities and then make you conclusion that Naruto>Sasuke.
THANK YOU! +rep to all of you who said this
@Athug: Listen to these guys.
You desparately needs to re read the manga, good sir. I thought that everybody knows this already, but I guess I was arong. During their battle, Itachi clearly said to Sasuke that EMS unlocks 4th kaleidoscope technique (
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). Also, from Sasukes words and from looks of his Susanoo you also can easily conclude that previous techniques are upgraded as well.first Sorry if this is bumping havent been checking the base recently, and second on to the topic.
@Reborn: i brought up rasenshuriken because if you look at the fight between Madara vs. Shinobi alliance/ 5 kage youll notice naruto destroys him with a rasenshuriken. Also to your point about 2 jonnin naruto and KB vs. tobis six paths, Kakashi was almost selected to be the hokage, and Guy knows the 8 gates which if you open the 8th you will have power stronger then a kage, so no id take those two over any TWO kage to go help naruto. And lastly ive started to wonder if youve heard of the word hypothesis, it means an educated guess, which is what im making about sasuke and how strong he will be compared to other people who have achieved as much or greater then him. So your right i dont know for sure but, lets look at this from another angle.