Sasuke does not posses Senju DNA

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Sasuke's rinnegan is special, he awakened it on his own

He was on the brink of death*
Reincarnation of indra*
Got hashirama dna (Ashura)*

He awakened the rinnegan, he met all requirements


why does he awakened rinnegan in 1 eye instead of 2?

why his rinnegan is special?


If i accept your fanfic.How does sasuke got a special Rinnegan?

Madara implanted the same Hashi's cells in him to awake rinnegan but why Madara's rinnegan was normal rinnegan whereas sasuke has "SPECIAL" rinnegan?

If Hagoromo didnt give him the Rinnegan then what did hagoromo give him ?

what was that half hagoromo power?
 
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Ahh that do makes sense. Sasuke was able to meet the old man due to hashi giving him chakra. But one problem, Where did naruto get Indra's chakra to meet the old man? Maybe Obito took some of Madara Chakra when taking parts of the tailed beasts from him?

Madara and hashirama were indra/Ashura's reincarnations. Hashirama touched Madara's legs which led to a mxing of Madara's chakra (indra), hashirama's chakra (Ashura), and the juubi as madara was a juubi Jin.

I'm tired of having to explain this. You need Hagoromo's chakra to awaken the rinnegan, but the only way to do that normally is by mixing indra's chakra and Ashura's chakra. Indra's chakra is not the same as hagoromo's yin and ashura's chakra is not the same as hagromo's senjutsu/yang. Otherwise Ashura would have RSM and Indra would have rikoudo sage mode, but this is not the case, indra and ashira's power are just watered down versions of Hagoromo's power. Sasuke received hagoromo's CHAKRA directly so it's only natural for him to awaken the rinnegan, it's not super complex to understand.
 

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Sasuke's rinnegan is special, he awakened it on his own

He was on the brink of death*
Reincarnation of indra*
Got hashirama dna (Ashura)*

He awakened the rinnegan, he met all requirements


Hagoromo gave Sasuke the Rinnegan and that is Mangafacts. if Sasuke had asura's chakra he would have gain the same pair of Rinnegan as Madara and he would take as long as Madara too. Hagoromo gave him half his chakra so he awakened one Rinnegan with 6 tome that even Madara and Hagoromo himself does not posses. Manga facts
 

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I just had to clear this up, i made a similar thread the other day about this topic.
I'm a Sasuke fan and he's my favorite character in the verse but no where was it stated that Sasuke poses Senju dna and if you are bring up the entire Kabuto statement

So you are saying Sasuke has Jugo's DNA too then?? cause in the war he clearly don't

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if Sasuke had Jugo's DNA he would have been able to absorb Nature chakra in the war and would be able to use Senjutsu Susano'o without Jugo. secondly if you "read" and comprehend both Kabuto and Jugo only use the cells for healing, otherwise Sasuke would have their powers which was clearly not the case.

"Sasuke only got Rinnegan because the Old man sage of six paths made him awaken it, hence why he has a singular unique Rinnegan with 6 tome that not even Hagoromo himself posses is."

Sasuke senju dna theory debunked.

Exactly! It's never been established that Sasuke possesses Senju DNA. They could only be used for healing Sasuke. And the Rinnegan specifically has nothing to do with Senju DNA because Hago gave it to Sasuke himself. Everything is mere conjecture which is false BTW.
 

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Madara and hashirama were indra/Ashura's reincarnations. Hashirama touched Madara's legs which led to a mxing of Madara's chakra (indra), hashirama's chakra (Ashura), and the juubi as madara was a juubi Jin.

I'm tired of having to explain this. You need Hagoromo's chakra to awaken the rinnegan, but the only way to do that normally is by mixing indra's chakra and Ashura's chakra. Indra's chakra is not the same as hagoromo's yin and ashura's chakra is not the same as hagromo's senjutsu/yang. Otherwise Ashura would have RSM and Indra would have rikoudo sage mode, but this is not the case, indra and ashira's power are just watered down versions of Hagoromo's power. Sasuke received hagoromo's CHAKRA directly so it's only natural for him to awaken the rinnegan, it's not super complex to understand.

you sir is about to win an award, thank you!!!!
 

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It requires Indra, Ashura, and kyuubi's chakra to summon hagoromoo.

Few incarnates have the ability to summon Hagoromoo.

Indra+Ashura's chakra is what's needed to bring out Hagoromoo's chakra.

You either get the chakra from the statue or you get the chakra from both incarnates to get Hagoromoo's chakra.

So Sasuke has received Ashura's chakra to even awaken the rinnegan

Madara forgot that it takes time for a mere cell to grow big (multiply) enough to produce enough of chakra.
While Sasuke got a big gift from Hashirama and that allow him to meet the sage "faster" and allow him to awaken rinnegan much much faster.
 

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Exactly! It's never been established that Sasuke possesses Senju DNA. They could only be used for healing Sasuke. And the Rinnegan specifically has nothing to do with Senju DNA because Hago gave it to Sasuke himself. Everything is mere conjecture which is false BTW.

Exactly! thank you for seeing between the lines man! omg
 

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why does he awakened rinnegan in 1 eye instead of 2?

why his rinnegan is special?
If Hagaromo gave it to him, he would've gave him both

Hagaromo probably gave them him the tomoes on his rinnegan or Sasuke unocked that power on his own, Similar to how naruto was a jinchuuriki like killer bee adn the rest, but he was the only one who unlocked different forms

 

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Madara and hashirama were indra/Ashura's reincarnations. Hashirama touched Madara's legs which led to a mxing of Madara's chakra (indra), hashirama's chakra (Ashura), and the juubi as madara was a juubi Jin.

I'm tired of having to explain this. You need Hagoromo's chakra to awaken the rinnegan, but the only way to do that normally is by mixing indra's chakra and Ashura's chakra. Indra's chakra is not the same as hagoromo's yin and ashura's chakra is not the same as hagromo's senjutsu/yang. Otherwise Ashura would have RSM and Indra would have rikoudo sage mode, but this is not the case, indra and ashira's power are just watered down versions of Hagoromo's power. Sasuke received hagoromo's CHAKRA directly so it's only natural for him to awaken the rinnegan, it's not super complex to understand.

lol. I know that. I was talking about meeting Hagoromo. Hagoromo said he was able to come out due to indra and ashura's chakra being mix.

So i was thinking the chakra that Hashi gave to Sasuke allowed him to meet Hago. The the chakra that obito took from Madara allowed Naruto to meet Hago.

That is all I was talking about.
 

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If Hagaromo gave it to him, he would've gave him both

Hagaromo probably gave them him the tomoes on his rinnegan or Sasuke unocked that power on his own, Similar to how naruto was a jinchuuriki like killer bee adn the rest, but he was the only one who unlocked different forms


No it is stated in the Databook that Hagoromo gave Sasuke the rinnegan. The reason that Sasuke's eye is different is because his rinnegan is Rinnegan+Sharingan
 

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Hagoromo gave Sasuke the Rinnegan and that is Mangafacts. if Sasuke had asura's chakra he would have gain the same pair of Rinnegan as Madara and he would take as long as Madara too. Hagoromo gave him half his chakra so he awakened one Rinnegan with 6 tome that even Madara and Hagoromo himself does not posses. Manga facts
Guy Hashirama gave him chakra and Kabuto gave him hashirama's dna to keep him alive, he has senju dna and ashura chakra, you're denying the manga now, plus people have different rinnegans and different powers, of course it would'nt be just like madara's
 

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why does he awakened rinnegan in 1 eye instead of 2?

why his rinnegan is special?

I feel like I'm the only one that reads the manga now... The reason it's in only his left eye is because of the overwhelming amount of yin from hagoromo plus indra's chakra. This lead to the formation of an Mangenkyou Rinnegan if you will, it's the closest eye to Kaguya's eye as there is only one version of it. Indra and ashura's chakras are just watered down versions of hagoromo's strength, hence why by mixing their chakra you only get the regular rinnegan, to Sasuke, a regular rinnegan eye, as shown in the manga is a depowered state, furthering the notion of supremacy of a one eyed Tomoe rinnegan being more potent than a regular rinnegan as not only are it's rinnegan powers seemingly better used as tomoes (if not on par) but they also retain his sharnningan powers, giving him an edge. Which would explain why in gaaiden sasuke couldn't use ameterasu while using a tomoeless rinnegan as the left eye is the eye that casts Ameterasu in the first place and regular rinnegan does not retain past sharnningan properties. Tomoe rinnegan retains past sharnningan properties but seemingly heightened, for example. Sasuke could use rinnegan:genjutsu as opposed to sharnningan genjutsu, also you could argue sasuke prediction capabilities are heightened while being a Tomoe rinnegan user as the average sharnningan user would not be able to keep up with the speed of RSM users while a Tomoe rinnegan user would be. Also the copy capabilities are there since it retains sharnningan properties so that would explain how Sasuke was able to utilize rasengan variants, though he could do this with sharnningan, rinnegan makes it more potent. Does this clear up confusion?
 

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For the record, yeah, Hagoromo awaken Sasuke's "rinne sharingan" for him. Otherwise Sasuke would've awaken two regular rinnegan like Madara got. If anybody can't see that, then you need to get your investigating skills together
 
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I feel like I'm the only one that reads the manga now... The reason it's in only his left eye is because of the overwhelming amount of yin from hagoromo plus indra's chakra. This lead to the formation of an Mangenkyou Rinnegan if you will, it's the closest eye to Kaguya's eye as there is only one version of it. Indra and ashura's chakras are just watered down versions of hagoromo's strength, hence why by mixing their chakra you only get the regular rinnegan, to Sasuke, a regular rinnegan eye, as shown in the manga is a depowered state, furthering the notion of supremacy of a one eyed Tomoe rinnegan being more potent than a regular rinnegan as not only are it's rinnegan powers seemingly better used as tomoes (if not on par) but they also retain his sharnningan powers, giving him an edge. Which would explain why in gaaiden sasuke couldn't use ameterasu while using a tomoeless rinnegan as the left eye is the eye that casts Ameterasu in the first place and regular rinnegan does not retain past sharnningan properties. Tomoe rinnegan retains past sharnningan properties but seemingly heightened, for example. Sasuke could use rinnegan:genjutsu as opposed to sharnningan genjutsu, also you could argue sasuke prediction capabilities are heightened while being a Tomoe rinnegan user as the average sharnningan user would not be able to keep up with the speed of RSM users while a Tomoe rinnegan user would be. Also the copy capabilities are there since it retains sharnningan properties so that would explain how Sasuke was able to utilize rasengan variants, though he could do this with sharnningan, rinnegan makes it more potent. Does this clear up confusion?

Yeah, you the only one read the manga here. Tell us more sensei. Enlighten them all.
 

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do you even read? Sasuke got Rinnegan as a gift

I read what you posted but these are the only possibility of bringing out Hagoromoo's chakra.

Indra+Ashura or the juubi/statue.

Naruto brought out Hagoromoo's chakra this way:

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All nine bijuus chakra is what makes up the juubi's chakra.

Sasuke brought out Hagoromoo's by mixing Ashura's chakra:

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So the Hagoromoo that "gave," Sasuke the rinnegan was the chakra of both Indra and Ashura.

So Sasuke does have Ashura's chakra as well.

PLEASE READ
 
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I read what you posted but these are the only possibility of bringing out Hagoromoo's chakra.

Indra+Ashura or the juubi/statue.

Naruto brought out Hagoromoo's chakra this way:

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All nine bijuus chakra is what makes up the juubi's chakra.

Sasuke brought out Hagoromoo's by mixing Ashura's chakra:

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So the Hagoromoo that "gave," Sasuke the rinnegan was the chakra of both Indra and Ashura.

So Sasuke does have Ashura's chakra aswell

Obito took some of Madara's chakra too.
 

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If Hagaromo gave it to him, he would've gave him both

Hagaromo probably gave them him the tomoes on his rinnegan or Sasuke unocked that power on his own, Similar to how naruto was a jinchuuriki like killer bee adn the rest, but he was the only one who unlocked different forms


You're misinterpreting things. A singular tomoe Rinnegan is equal to dual regular Rinnegan. He did give him both.
 

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lol. I know that. I was talking about meeting Hagoromo. Hagoromo said he was able to come out due to indra and ashura's chakra being mix.

So i was thinking the chakra that Hashi gave to Sasuke allowed him to meet Hago. The the chakra that obito took from Madara allowed Naruto to meet Hago.

That is all I was talking about.

Ah got you, but I believe he was just talking about hashi and madara at that point remember, as Hagoromo said to Naruto and Sasuke he is observes the CURRENT Transmigrates over time. Hashi and madara are not current but still possess the chakra since they were past transmigrates. Hagoromo may have came to Naruto and sasuke dye to the impending danger (and as a deus ex machina in the flesh) of his mother, Kaguya's revival. With only an indra and ashura transmigrate being able to stop this he appeared to both Naruto and sasuke, if he gave all the power to Naruto the curse of hatted would still continue even if sasuke would survive as it's commonly said "there are two types of people. One to embody the power, the other to crave it" sasuke would've just been envious of Naruto and a repeat of indra and ashura would've happened, which would suck, because hagoromo is trying to avoid that.
 

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I read what you posted but these are the only possibility of bringing out Hagoromoo's chakra.

Indra+Ashura or the juubi/statue.

Naruto brought out Hagoromoo's chakra this way:

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All nine bijuus chakra is what makes up the juubi's chakra.

Sasuke brought out Hagoromoo's by mixing Ashura's chakra:

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So the Hagoromoo that "gave," Sasuke the rinnegan was the chakra of both Indra and Ashura.

So Sasuke does have Ashura's chakra aswell

And a gift from Hashi
 

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Guy Hashirama gave him chakra and Kabuto gave him hashirama's dna to keep him alive, he has senju dna and ashura chakra, you're denying the manga now, plus people have different rinnegans and different powers, of course it would'nt be just like madara's

By your logic, Sasuke would be rocking two rinnegan(s). So no!
 
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