Sasuke does NOT have Tsukuyomi

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Until he shows it, I don't believe he has it.
 

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Well in Tsukuyomi the user can manipulate time, and Sasuke can't, so I'd say he doesn't have it- or simply can't utilize its full potential but then why call it Tsukuyomi...it equals to a normal sharingan genjutsu.

This is like saying if a person can't use a knife as proficiently as someone else, why call it a knife.
 

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Nope.

He's referring to himself, in his specific case. Nowhere does it say that you can't awaken Susano'o by having 2 different MS techs other than Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi.
He said once both the Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu were awakened, not once two of his powers were awakened. If any two powers could suffice, why would he specifically say his techniques? Coupled with the databook page saying only those who have Tsuki and Ama can use Susano'o, and nothing presented in the manga yet to contradict this, it's clear that Sasuke has Tsukiyomi due to having Susano'o.
 

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Didn't Sasuke use Tsukuyomi against Bee?
 

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He said once both the Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu were awakened, not once two of his powers were awakened. If any two powers could suffice, why would he specifically say his techniques? Coupled with the databook page saying only those who have Tsuki and Ama can use Susano'o, and nothing presented in the manga yet to contradict this, it's clear that Sasuke has Tsukiyomi due to having Susano'o.

Lol some people are so dense ^

Not only does enton use his OPPOSITE eye than ameratsu, sasuke has never, ever said the word "tsukyomi", which itachi did every single time he used it. Its like looking at part 1 databook facts over the last 300 chapters
 
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Lol some people are so dense ^

Not only does enton use his OPPOSITE eye than ameratsu, sasuke has never, ever said the word "tsukyomi", which itachi did every single time he used it. Its like looking at part 1 databook facts over the last 300 chapters

You're forgetting Sasuke studied the Tablet which shows one the secret techniques of the Sharingan. Obviously he can use Tsukuyomi, but nowhere near Itachi's level.

He used it against Bee remember? He doesn't need to say the name, his normal Genjutsu and Tsukuyomi is very distinguishable. Itachi's is not.
 

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He said once both the Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu were awakened, not once two of his powers were awakened. If any two powers could suffice, why would he specifically say his techniques? Coupled with the databook page saying only those who have Tsuki and Ama can use Susano'o, and nothing presented in the manga yet to contradict this, it's clear that Sasuke has Tsukiyomi due to having Susano'o.
Once again....:

And the databook is outdated btw.
 

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You're forgetting Sasuke studied the Tablet which shows one the secret techniques of the Sharingan. Obviously he can use Tsukuyomi, but nowhere near Itachi's level.

He used it against Bee remember? He doesn't need to say the name, his normal Genjutsu and Tsukuyomi is very distinguishable. Itachi's is not.

Unless Sasuke actually says Tsukiyomi when casting a genjutsu then he does'nt have it.
 

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You're forgetting Sasuke studied the Tablet which shows one the secret techniques of the Sharingan. Obviously he can use Tsukuyomi, but nowhere near Itachi's level.

He used it against Bee remember? He doesn't need to say the name, his normal Genjutsu and Tsukuyomi is very distinguishable. Itachi's is not.

No he obviously doesnt have it as he never used it, and his 2 abilities are Ameratsu and Enton, one ability for each eye. He never used tsukyomi vs bee, he never even manipulated time. People love ignoring the obvious things
 

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No he obviously doesnt have it as he never used it, and his 2 abilities are Ameratsu and Enton, one ability for each eye. He never used tsukyomi vs bee, he never even manipulated time. People love ignoring the obvious things
It's just them being stubborn.You could literally wave the one manga scan that debunks their arguments and they would just ignore it.
 

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No he obviously doesnt have it as he never used it, and his 2 abilities are Ameratsu and Enton, one ability for each eye. He never used tsukyomi vs bee, he never even manipulated time. People love ignoring the obvious things

Manipulation of time is based on skills like Danzo mentioned when he fought Sasuke.

Every MS user can use Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu. Tobirama noticed both Amaterasu and Kagutsuchi right of the bat. Suggesting he fought such opponents before.
 

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Manipulation of time is based on skills like Danzo mentioned when he fought Sasuke.

Every MS user can use Tsukuyomi or Amaterasu. Tobirama noticed both Amaterasu and Kagutsuchi right of the bat. Suggesting he fought such opponents before.
False,every MS user has two unique abilities and only Itachi has Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu.
 

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False,every MS user has two unique abilities and only Itachi has Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu.

That's not unique, it's written on the tablet.

Kotoamatsukami, Kamui and Sasuke S/T Jutsu are the only known unique Sharingan abilities.
 

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as of now sasuke has the rinnegan so i asumme that sasuke rinnegans genjutsu is way harder to escape from or imposible if you dont have either so6p senjutsu or rinnegan, but that does not mean he has better control within genjustu than itachi
what im saying is:
sasuke rinnegan genjutsu=harder to awaken from than itachis tsukuyomi
itachis tsukuyomi= has a better control over what the person in the genjutsu sees and feels than sasuke
 

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That's not unique, it's written on the tablet.

Kotoamatsukami, Kamui and Sasuke S/T Jutsu are the only known unique Sharingan abilities.

Unique as in not every MS user has the same cookie cutter techniques.Each and every single one of them is unique only to the user.
 

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Unique as in not every MS user has the same cookie cutter techniques.Each and every single one of them is unique only to the user.

Lol im bailing thread. The guy has no clue what he is talking about while ignoring the obvious.
 

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sir, they are genjutsu, not Tsukuyomi..

Then why did he get eye strain afterwards?
Why did he have MS activated at the time?
Why did it have an inverted gray scale?

All of those are the points that lead to Tsukuyomi being used
 

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No he obviously doesnt have it as he never used it, and his 2 abilities are Ameratsu and Enton, one ability for each eye. He never used tsukyomi vs bee, he never even manipulated time. People love ignoring the obvious things
It was stated that only Itachi could manipulate time within his Tsukuyomi, due to his mastery over genjutsu
 
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