Sasuke does NOT have Tsukuyomi

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It cannot be proven, nor disproved.

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Eye strain? Check.
Only one eye use? Check.
MS always used? Check.
Inverted Black and White scale? Check.

All points lead to Tsukuyomi, albeit weaker than Itachi's.
you missed the panel where he used a genjutsu on cee with only a 3t and eyes still strained.
 

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you missed the panel where he used a genjutsu on cee with only a 3t and eyes still strained.

3T appeared within the genjutsu, but there is no panel showing Sasuke casting it. Susano'o is also in the genjutsu, that doesn't mean Susano'o was used to cast it.
 

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3T appeared within the genjutsu, but there is no panel showing Sasuke casting it. Susano'o is also in the genjutsu, that doesn't mean Susano'o was used to cast it.
dude youre lying because ive been in this debate before let me go find the panel for you so you can cry some more.
 

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Its very obvious that he does not have tsukyomi. Enton used with one eye, ameratsu with the other. Not to mention all his genjutsu have been classified as "sharingan genjutsu".

There is just so much pointing to the fact he doesnt have it, and no scan of him using it. Dunno how it can be argued
 

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No that's itachis tech ppl say because he has it because he has itachis eyes but then why can't he use yata mirror or t blade or raven clones
 

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Well in Tsukuyomi the user can manipulate time, and Sasuke can't, so I'd say he doesn't have it- or simply can't utilize its full potential but then why call it Tsukuyomi...it equals to a normal sharingan genjutsu.
 

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3T appeared within the genjutsu, but there is no panel showing Sasuke casting it. Susano'o is also in the genjutsu, that doesn't mean Susano'o was used to cast it.
sasuke is shown here prepping the genjutsu with a regular 3t sharingan
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heres sasuke casting the genjutsu still with 3t
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sasukes eye straining after using 3t genjutsu and still with 3t activated.
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sasuke doesn't have tsukuyomi.
 

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sasuke is shown here prepping the genjutsu with a regular 3t sharingan
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heres sasuke casting the genjutsu still with 3t
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sasukes eye straining after using 3t genjutsu and still with 3t activated.
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sasuke doesn't have tsukuyomi.

Kinda weird that Sasuke is covering the opposite eye isn't it? That one was probably just a strong 3T jutsu
 

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Sasuke has Tsukuyomi, for those reasons.
 

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Sasuke has Tsukuyomi, for those reasons.
you just showed a panel of itachi saying he unlocked susanoo after fully utilizing both of his ms abilities.
 

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Sasuke has Tsukuyomi, for those reasons.
Nope.

He's referring to himself, in his specific case. Nowhere does it say that you can't awaken Susano'o by having 2 different MS techs other than Amaterasu and Tsukuyomi.
 

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Nowhere does it say that you can awaken Susano'o without having those two jutsu, either. Itachi in particular was clearly surprised that Sasuke was capable of using Susano'o. The two shinobi often trumpeted by the detractors--Obito and Shisui--have never been regarded as Susano'o users at any point during this story.
 

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Unless you're trying to show that Sasuke's generic genjutsu is as good as Itachi's Tsukuyomi, I'm not sure what the purpose of posting that page [Without spoiler-tagging it, no less].
 

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Unless you're trying to show that Sasuke's generic genjutsu is as good as Itachi's Tsukuyomi, I'm not sure what the purpose of posting that page [Without spoiler-tagging it, no less].

Why would Kishi specifically call their genjutsu different things? If Sasuke had tsukuyomi then surely he'd also call it tsukuyomi in that page.
 

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Why would Kishi specifically call their genjutsu different things? If Sasuke had tsukuyomi then surely he'd also call it tsukuyomi in that page.
Newsflash: Sharingan users can use multiple genjutsu.
 
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