Sasuke does not have Tsukuyomi

[TheTailedSage]

outdated, sure but it doesnt change the fact that the powers for light and dark world are need to unlock susanoo'o

This. You people are trying to merely talk about something which doesn't exist. Proof seems to be on our side and against the proof seems to be mere speculation. And a poor one at that

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Only Shisui and Obito have different ones. Their genetics says so.

By some people's logic every MS user must have Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu because those are the only two MS powers that could possibly unlock Susanoo.Even though each MS user only has one unique power in each eye.

 

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THANK YOU!!God some people are too dense around here.

i think you're the one thats too dense to understand that at the that given time itachi was the only one known to have susanoo doesnt mean the requirements are for him alone

 

[Draphsin]

outdated, sure but it doesnt change the fact that the powers for light and dark world are need to unlock susanoo'o

Light & dark world? What?

Two mangekyou sharingan are needed, as proven & stated.

So that means what exactly? This proves nothing

The fact that the DB entry which states the requirements to be ama/tsuku also says that the susanoo wields totsuka & yata in its hands.

Not only is it singular, which is referring to one susanoo, but only Itachi has these weapons, therefore this DB entry is simply referring to HIM.

What Draphsin posted only talks about Itachi's Susanoo. What i posted is talking about requirements of Susanoo in general.

Wrong I just posted the entire entry, has both paragraphs in it u_u

 

[Bronze]

Bro that is the DB entry for Susanoo

There is only one DB entry for it, ill give you the full page if you dont believe me, lol

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Again you're only talking about Itachi's Susanoo and only his Susanoo.

I am talking about requirements for Susanoo. The page i posted was preaching it.

 

[TheTailedSage]

Bro that is the DB entry for Susanoo

There is only one DB entry for it, ill give you the full page if you dont believe me, lol

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This is like saying sasukes amatarasu burns faster than itachis. We knows what it does and hwo he got it. It tells us how susano'o is obtained. Sasuke got his suano'o shortly after we had seen him obtain ammy and tsukyomi so i still fail to see your point

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

This. You people are trying to merely talk about something which doesn't exist. Proof seems to be on our side and against the proof seems to be mere speculation. And a poor one at that

Me and several others have constantly posted scan after scan that states Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi aren't required for Susanoo yet they keep getting ignored by people who rely on outdated info.

 

[Bronze]

By some people's logic every MS user must have Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu because those are the only two MS powers that could possibly unlock Susanoo.Even though each MS user only has one unique power in each eye.

If people said that then its wrong. No to all MS user must have Tsukuyomi and Amatersu. They must have it if they unlocked Susanoo. Obito has kamui in pair eyes and Shisui has KA in pair eyes.

 

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Light & dark world? What?

Two mangekyou sharingan are needed, as proven & stated.



The fact that the DB entry which states the requirements to be ama/tsuku also says that the susanoo wields totsuka & yata in its hands.

Not only is it singular, which is referring to one susanoo, but only Itachi has these weapons, therefore this DB entry is simply referring to HIM.



Wrong I just posted the entire entry, has both paragraphs in it u_u

The Susanoo is the third ability granted by the Mangekyō Sharingan to those who awaken the abilities Tsukuyomi — which symbolises the "Spiritual World and Darkness"(dark world) and Amaterasu — which denotes the "Material World and Light".

 

[Draphsin]

This is like saying sasukes amatarasu burns faster than itachis. We knows what it does and hwo he got it. It tells us how susano'o is obtained. Sasuke got his suano'o shortly after we had seen him obtain ammy and tsukyomi so i still fail to see your point

None of what you said has any relevance to sasuke or madara, these are Itachi's requirements. I am merely disproving why it speaks in such a general term.

Once Itachi awakens ama/tsuku then he unlocks susanoo. Itachi's susanoo boasts totsuka & yata in its hands.

The entire entry is referring to him & you would be ignorant to ignore that fact..

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

i think you're the one thats too dense to understand that at the that given time itachi was the only one known to have susanoo doesnt mean the requirements are for him alone

Lolwut?You know what?I give up trying to show that Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi aren't needed for Susanoo and that the databook entry refers to Itachi only.I'll let Draphsin deal with this because you guys are giving me a head ache.

 

[Booker]

Sasuke has not mastered Tsukuyomi, if he does have it.

Sasuage's main fanboys claim he must have Tsukuyomi, because Susano'o requires mastering Tsukuyomi (according to them).

But they've dug their own grave. Sasuke has not mastered Tsukuyomi, therefore

(1) He does not have it
(2) Susano'o does not require it

 

[TheTailedSage]

Me and several others have constantly posted scan after scan that states Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi aren't required for Susanoo yet they keep getting ignored by people who rely on outdated info.

But it still proves nothing. If your statement was correct you would show us how madara and sasuke obtained theirs. We already know how sasuke got his susano'o but your trying to argue with manga facts. Your posting proof of how itachi got his susano'o and so far this theory of obtaining it has been confirmed by sasuke since he too got his susano'o like itachi. I would hardly calling it proof for your statement. Your only stating that itachi got his susano'o like that

 

[Draphsin]

The Susanoo is the third ability granted by the Mangekyō Sharingan to those who awaken the abilities Tsukuyomi — which symbolises the "Spiritual World and Darkness"(dark world) and Amaterasu — which denotes the "Material World and Light".

These are Itachi's requirements, the requirements differ between users. Itachi may need these to unlock it but sasuke doesnt, he already stated that his requirements were simply the ability to awaken the double mangekyou.

 

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Lolwut?You know what?I give up trying to show that Amaterasu and Tsukiyomi aren't needed for Susanoo and that the databook entry refers to Itachi only.I'll let Draphsin deal with this because you guys are giving me a head ache.

at the time of the databook release who else had susanoo?

 

[-ahhimane-]

he did but these guys keep denying it

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Lol, that wasn't Tsukuyomi. It was a normal Genjutsu.
By the look from which eye he casted Genjutsu on Killer Bee is RIGHT eye.
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Sasuke used LEFT eye for Amaterasu

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Sasuke used RIGHT eye for manipulating/extinguishing Amaterasu flames

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Now explain me why he GOT AMATERASU MANIPULATION AND TSUKUYOMI IN THE SAME EYE?
He's not so special to get three powers to awaken Susano'o. Give me a break.

Also the Data book thing. The whole thing about Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, Susano'o, Totsuka sword and Yata Mirror..... everything is under the title "ITACHI UCHIHA".

 

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These are Itachi's requirements, the requirements differ between users. Itachi may need these to unlock it but sasuke doesnt, he already stated that his requirements were simply the ability to awaken the double mangekyou.

where does it say only itachi? its susanoo general requirement.

 

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Lol, that wasn't Tsukuyomi. It was a normal Genjutsu.
By the look from which eye he casted Genjutsu on Killer Bee is RIGHT eye.
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Sasuke used LEFT eye for Amaterasu

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Sasuke used RIGHT eye for manipulating/extinguishing Amaterasu flames

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Now explain me why he GOT AMATERASU MANIPULATION AND TSUKUYOMI IN THE SAME EYE?
He's not so special to get three powers to awaken Susano'o. Give me a break.

Also the Data book thing. The whole thing about Amaterasu, Tsukuyomi, Susano'o, Totsuka sword and Yata Mirror..... everything is under the title "ITACHI UCHIHA".

dude thats not a normal genjutsu thats the same dark world itachi used countless times and at the time of the databook release itachi was the only one with susanoo geez and he casted it with the left eye numbnuts

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

at the time of the databook release who else had susanoo?

Nobody and that's why the old databook info is severly outdated now that we have seen two more Susanoo users awaken Susanoo and one of them said you must unlock the unique powers in both eyes to use it.I bet if Kishi himself said Tsukiyomi and Amaterasu aren't needed for Susanoo then you and several others would continue to cling to outdated info.

 

[Draphsin]

where does it say only itachi? its susanoo general requirement.

Oh my goodness....How many times do I have to tell you....?

I guess all susanoos possess totsuka & yata going by your logic.