Sasuke does not have Tsukuyomi

[Draphsin]

You've got to be kidding me. Still in denial. It doesn't say that Susano'o boasts Totsuka and Yata, but a sword and shield. But guess what? It was also said that Totsuka and Yata are legendary weapons that Orochimaru was looking for. Why would Orochimaru be looking for legendary weapons that Susano'o only has? Common sense.

This simply proves your claim to be wrong. It says that susanoo boasts an absolutely perfect attack & defense, then goes on to describe the legendary weapons. It is YOU who is in denial if you dont think that thay're referring to totsuka & yata.

& anyways, madara only has swords, & the DB only refers to susanoo as a SINGULAR with the "its", proving that the DB is simply talking about one susanoo.

Finally about oro, that doesnt matter if oro was looking for them or not, the fact that the DB states susanoo has it along with the fact that Itachi is labelled as the only caster solidifies the fact that that entry was strictly describing Itachi's susanoo.

Idk how you think this "common sense" works against me, oro was looking for the weapons which itachi's susanoo possesses according to the DB (which is now outdaded because of the introduction of new susanoos).

You need to learn to read. When did I say the wiki was correct all the time? Quote me. When did I say it? I said that in that instance, you were denying the wiki that quoted the databook itself.

The OUTDATED databook

You're using outdated info (that has already been contradicted) as current evidence.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Well I guess I'm stupid because Sasuke's second MS ability is certainly Enton... He uses one eye for Amaterasu and the other to control the flames.

Agreed,hell Sasuke can even use Enton anytime he wants.

 

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Well I guess I'm stupid because Sasuke's second MS ability is certainly Enton... He uses one eye for Amaterasu and the other to control the flames.

sasuke uses his right eye to cast enton and sasuke also uses his right eye to cast amaterasu so what does the left eye do? dude get over it sasuke has tsukuyomi whether you want to admit it or not.

 

[Sefirosu Masamune]

These are the ones who are winning the debate because they posted scan to support their argument. All i see are people disagreeing with the scans they posted, but they honestly have no scans to support what they are saying. the only thing that can be taken into account is that the scans suggest sasuke has Tsukuyomi or atleast some lesser variation of it. Though its not proof, it is really strong evidence to suggest this is the case.

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You need to unlock the powers of both eyes to use Susanoo.

"he Susanoo is the third ability granted by the Mangekyō Sharingan to those who awaken the abilities Tsukuyomi — which symbolises the "Spiritual World and Darkness" and Amaterasu — which denotes the "Material World and Light". It creates a gigantic, humanoid being that surrounds the user. As one of the strongest techniques granted to those that have acquired the Mangekyō Sharingan, it is the user's guardian deity, but at the same time, it consumes the user's life." - Wiki

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sometimes i wonder if you guys even read the manga or watch the anime

No one else can show manga scans to dispute these. they can only simply deny the scans. but denial by itself is nothing against a manga scan unless it can be countered with another scan..


Im not confirming or denying sasuke's use of Tsukuyomi, but the evidence points to him having it rather than not having it

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

he as it but he isnt good at it since it barely worked on danzo

It was just a simple genjutsu.Sasuke has Enton and Amaterasu and nothing else.

 

[skg1991]

Fact remains that sasuke hasn't been seen using the tsukuyomi....even after he got MS and EMS,its never been seen....he probably has it though...

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

sasuke uses his right eye to cast enton and sasuke also uses his right eye to cast amaterasu so what does the left eye do? dude get over it sasuke has tsukuyomi whether you want to admit it or not.

No he does'nt...Sasuke uses one eye to cast Amaterasu and the other to manipulate the flames.

 

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It was just a simple genjutsu.Sasuke has Enton and Amaterasu and nothing else.

dude enton is simply manipulating amaterasu not the second power since both it and ama is controlled by the right eye you have no facts to support that enton is the second power.

 

[kunde]

These are the ones who are winning the debate because they posted scan to support their argument. All i see are people disagreeing with the scans they posted, but they honestly have no scans to support what they are saying. the only thing that can be taken into account is that the scans suggest sasuke has Tsukuyomi or atleast some lesser variation of it. Though its not proof, it is really strong evidence to suggest this is the case.





No one else can show manga scans to dispute these. they can only simply deny the scans. but denial by itself is nothing against a manga scan unless it can be countered with another scan..


Im not confirming or denying sasuke's use of Tsukuyomi, but the evidence points to him having it rather than not having it

Not everyone needs to post scans again when someone already posted it. DB refers to ITACHI only, and sasuke himself said susano'o can be used by those who possess double mangekyo's

 

[Draphsin]

sasuke uses his right eye to cast enton and sasuke also uses his right eye to cast amaterasu so what does the left eye do? dude get over it sasuke has tsukuyomi whether you want to admit it or not.

Read the manga

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dude enton is simply manipulating amaterasu not the second power since both it and ama is controlled by the right eye you have no facts to support that enton is the second power.

I do

 

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Not everyone needs to post scans again when someone already posted it. DB refers to ITACHI only, and sasuke himself said susano'o can be used by those who possess double mangekyo's

maybe thats because neither madara or sasuke susanoo'o was reveal at the time? i shouldn't be surprised a bunch of you guys tired to say madara doesnt possess tsukuyomi. but yet his world plan is called infinite tsukuyomi XD

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

dude enton is simply manipulating amaterasu not the second power since both it and ama is controlled by the right eye you have no facts to support that enton is the second power.

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Look at his eyes in these two scans.One was bleeding which meant Sasuke was using Amaterasu while the other one is not which he used to manipulate the flames.

 

[Sefirosu Masamune]

Not everyone needs to post scans again when someone already posted it. DB refers to ITACHI only, and sasuke himself said susano'o can be used by those who possess double mangekyo's

I disagree. If it cannot be supported with manga scans then its holds no weight. When something cannot be proven or disproven then one MUST use manga scans to defend their point. If you are making a point, then you need something to support it. simple as that. especially when someone else has evidence to back their statements up.

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This is a good example of someone countering the argument. He used scans to prove his point. and honestly he defended his argument so well he did not even have to say much. This is how you debate. just these two scans alone just slumped all the other evidence brought to prove sasuke has tsukuyomi.

 

[kunde]

dude enton is simply manipulating amaterasu not the second power since both it and ama is controlled by the right eye you have no facts to support that enton is the second power.

left eye:amaterasu

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right eye: Enton

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[Draphsin]

maybe thats because neither madara or sasuke susanoo'o was reveal at the time? i shouldn't be surprised a bunch of you guys tired to say madara doesnt possess tsukuyomi. but yet his world plan is called infinite tsukuyomi XD

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Madara can use any regular 3-T sharingan genjutsu in order to cast I/T (as long as its powered by the mazou/juubi, obviously).

 

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I do

yet that doesnt prove that enton is the second power

 

[Bogard]

Sasuke does have tsukuyomi, only that he is(or i'd rather say was since we don't know now) unable to control the length of the illusion

Tsukuyomi is described both in the manga and databook as a jutsu that makes the opponent's psyches collapse, something that both Sasuke and Madara have already shown in the manga

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Itachi isn't the only tsukuyomi user. Madara and Sasuke are tsukuyomi users as well. But Itachi was particularly skilfull with tsukuyomi to the point he is capable to make a lengthy illusion of 3days happen in few seconds. The only difference is the time control between the user, nothing more. We don't know about Madara however, but it's the only limit presented on Sasuke's tsukuyomi so far

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

maybe thats because neither madara or sasuke susanoo'o was reveal at the time? i shouldn't be surprised a bunch of you guys tired to say madara doesnt possess tsukuyomi. but yet his world plan is called infinite tsukuyomi XD

Jesus you are stubborn....Infinite Tsukiyomi refers to the moon where the Juubi's jinchuriki can cast a powerful genjutsu on and use the Juubi's power to broadcast it across the entire world.

 

[Shadow Phantasm]

Sasuke does have tsukuyomi, only that he is(or i'd rather say was since we don't know now) unable to control the length of the illusion

Tsukuyomi is described both in the manga and databook as a jutsu that makes the opponent's psyches collapse, something that both Sasuke and Madara have already shown in the manga

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Itachi isn't the only tsukuyomi user. Madara and Sasuke are tsukuyomi users as well. But Itachi was particularly skilfull with tsukuyomi to the point he is capable to make a lengthy illusion of 3days happen in few seconds. The only difference is the time control between the user, nothing more. We don't know about Madara however, but it's the only limit presented on Sasuke's tsukuyomi so far

That was'nt Tsukiyomi Madara used on Ay,hell Onoki even said that Madara's genjutsu is on such a level that they should'nt make eye contact otherwise they would be finished.

 

[Draphsin]

yet that doesnt prove that enton is the second power

Yes it does

Show me another scan of a uchiha using two MS jutsus with one eye. You can't therefore you saying that he has tsukuyomi in an eye that's occupied by a jutsu is completely false.

Sasuke showed us enton, & he showed us amaterasu (both by name), sasuke has never activated by name another jutsu in his eyes besides susanoo, therefore saying that he has tsukuyomi is based on zero proof & its just your speculation.

Have a nice day =D