Sasuke DOES NOT have tsukuyomi

[-Vegeta-]

I got it straight from narutoforums who got it from mangahelpers and that person translated it. Here's the link

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If you don't believe it then that's on you.

 

[lswhyte123]

im guessing this means that there is a manga page to back that up,post the link and i'll agree as for the wiki thats fanmade

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where in this page does danzo say "your tsukuyomi is a far cry from itachi's"

nowhere he only mentioned that to rub it in sasuke's face that itachi could use tsukuyomi and all sasuke has is shitty regular gen. he's basically saying your genjutsu doesn't have shit on itachi's tsukuyomi

It's in issue 51. Go buy the actual book. NB doesn't translate properly

Also, people here have been nice enough to give you the time to offer you the answer. Why are you being so ignorant?

 

[KAGE RYUU]

I just provided that databook entry about susanoo a couple posts above. Read the bold text.

man hes jus acting like he disnt see it so he can keeo acting like hes not wrong anyone who knows anything about naruto knows sasuke has tsyukomi

link?

u have got to be joking quite acting like u cant see the link that ppl keep posting u know ur wrong everyone know ur wrong jus accept it ur making u self look bad

 

[Punk Hazard]

I got it straight from narutoforums who got it from mangahelpers and that person translated it. Here's the link

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If you don't believe it then that's on you.

cant you link me straight to the databook? no, then how do we know that dude didnt make it up? link to the databooks cuz anything is would be invalid info, you said the databooks say you need tsukiyomi and amaterasu, then show me the databook itself

 

[orona]

Here's the databook 3 entry about susanoo:

NINJUTSU; KEKKEI GENKAI: Susanoo (Mysterious, All-Encompassing Assistance Ability*)
User: Uchiha Itachi
Offensive; Defensive; Close, Medium, Long ranges; Rank: none

Main text

There are two doujutsu the use of which is allowed exclusively to those who have awakened to the clairvoyant eyes of Heaven, the Mangekyou Sharingan: Amaterasu, which speaks of Light and the material world, and Tsukuyomi, symbolizing the spiritual world and Darkness**. Only in them who hold both of those, dwells the power of the wild, rampaging god... Susanoo. The materialized chakra shapes itself after the wargod's commanding face and powerful physique, and the fierce spirit won't subside until the destruction of all the enemies in its line of sight...!!

There's a reason why Susanoo can boast perfect flawlessness in its offense and defense: the spiritual weapons it holds in both hands. The Sword of Totsuka* in its right hand, which will mow down any kind of enemy, and the Mirror of Yata*, upon which all attacks will bounce back. Substantial or spiritual, and then ninjutsu or physical attacks lose all kinds of significance before the god's efficacy.

Captions

-In the pupils that grasp the principles behind Heaven and Earth, dwells the valorous sword-wielding, shield-bearing Aragami***!!

-Protecting its caster, it destroys the enemy!

-In its left and right hands are held the unparalleled, wondrous Sacred Treasures* of virtues miraculous.

Picture comments

-Only those who have carried mastery of Mangekyou Sharingan - the doujutsu feared by those around it as the strongest - to its extremes will come onto the god's territory. A guardian deity to its caster, it eats away their life at the same time.

-The sake flowing out of the gourd assumes the shape of a sword, becoming the Totsuka! In addition, the souls absorbed by it are sealed there.

-The Sword of Totsuka
One swing of the Sword of Kusanagi* has the power to throw the people it stabs into an genjutsu world of intoxicating dreams, and seal them away for eternity. The sword itself carries a fuuinjutsu.

-The Mirror of Yata
The substance-less spiritual shield. Endowed will all Nature Alterations, it changes its own attributes in response to the attacks it receives, making the jutsu ineffective.




Read the bold.

so far this is the only thing that has even slightly made me think that he has it but the fact that it also states how the sword of totsuka and yata mirror are a part of it are leading me to believe that it isn't correct because sasuke awakened susanoo and he only has a crossbow

 

[-Vegeta-]

cant you link me straight to the databook? no, then how do we know that dude didnt make it up? link to the databooks cuz anything is would be invalid info, you said the databooks say you need tsukiyomi and amaterasu, then show me the databook itself

I don't have the databook and it's too much trouble trying to find scans of it. I've already given you countless links. It seems like you're just in denial.

 

[orona]

I am sure that what you say is correct as I remember that too. But did he mean you just need to have MS or the skills that come with?
What Tobi-who is a big ol lyer-said does not give an answer but serves only to confuse things.

Susanoo requires that the user have MS in both eyes. It is also refered to as the 3rd power which comes when you learn both Tsuku and amaterasu.

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I gave you an example of Sasuke using Tsukuyomi.
I gave you evidence on narutopedia.
I refer you to the manga where Itachi even says so.

And you respond with "IDGAF" what's up with that?

look man the idgaf was only pointed toward the wiki page because its fanmade however that link is makin me reconsider

 

[lswhyte123]

I got it straight from narutoforums who got it from mangahelpers and that person translated it. Here's the link

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If you don't believe it then that's on you.

man hes jus acting like he disnt see it so he can keeo acting like hes not wrong anyone who knows anything about naruto knows sasuke has tsyukomi


u have got to be joking quite acting like u cant see the link that ppl keep posting u know ur wrong everyone know ur wrong jus accept it ur making u self look bad

Me and these two normally don't see eye to eye. But this time, we are all in agreement. Which I feel counts for something.
Sasuke has Tsukuyomi. We have given you enough proof. Bar Masashi Kishimoto calling you up himself and telling you I don't think it's gonna sink in.
Narutopedia is of course fan made. Just like Wikipedia. The facts written if found to be incorrect are corrected. That has been there for at least a month.
The fact that instead of being grateful, you have chosen to be rude has just earned you a hat with a big D no it.

 

[lswhyte123]

cant you link me straight to the databook? no, then how do we know that dude didnt make it up? link to the databooks cuz anything is would be invalid info, you said the databooks say you need tsukiyomi and amaterasu, then show me the databook itself

He can't because as it is a book that people want you to buy, it was taken offline. So he can't just go n grab it. Why don't you try?

look man the idgaf was only pointed toward the wiki page because its fanmade however that link is makin me reconsider

Ok, I accept that but try not to come off as rude.

We are trying to give as much evidence as possible and let u make ur own mind up. Everything points to the fact that Sasuke CAN use Tsukuyomi.

Apologies for double post

 

[Punk Hazard]

I don't have the databook and it's too much trouble trying to find scans of it. I've already given you countless links. It seems like you're just in denial.

the only links ive seen are those to the manga pages, ive already told you what that meant

with tobi and danzo, why did they refer to sasuke's genjutsu as sasuke's genjutsu, why not sasuke's tsukiyomi? they had no problem saying itachi's tsukiyomi

and with the forums, that cant be taken as serious evidence, that guy could have made it up, unless its a link to the official databook, then your evidence isnt valid

and dont use narutopedia, thats fan made, you can go there and say sasuke has it, then i could go there and say he doesnt and use it as proof against you, plus it says madara has amaterasu and tsukiyomi, when have we seen him use these techs?

and its not "being in denial", part of a debate is there are people who disagree with you, dont resort to insults or false accusations if youre debates are countered, if youre going to, then you shouldnt be in this debate

 

[-Vegeta-]

Here's the susanoo page but it's not translated. I've already given you the translation.

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This is the last link I'm posting on the matter. I believe I've already provided enough proof that he has it. If you're too stubborn to accept it then that's on you.

 

[orona]

man hes jus acting like he disnt see it so he can keeo acting like hes not wrong anyone who knows anything about naruto knows sasuke has tsyukomi


u have got to be joking quite acting like u cant see the link that ppl keep posting u know ur wrong everyone know ur wrong jus accept it ur making u self look bad

ok smart guy i've opened every link so far aside from those that are wiki pages because those are fanmade and there was no link on that comment so stfu either way 4th hokage of the leaf has been the only person to even slight tip my oppinion

 

[Shanthony]

cant you link me straight to the databook? no, then how do we know that dude didnt make it up? link to the databooks cuz anything is would be invalid info, you said the databooks say you need tsukiyomi and amaterasu, then show me the databook itself

the data books are all in Japanese so any link will simply be another translation like the one before so I hope you can read Japanese

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Edit:just noticed my link is not the full page

 

[lswhyte123]

ok smart guy i've opened every link so far aside from those that are wiki pages because those are fanmade and there was no link on that comment so stfu either way 4th hokage of the leaf has been the only person to even slight tip my oppinion

Way to make everyone else who helped feel crap. Douche lol

 

[GofOfNothing]

his one was weak when he had MS
i think he will be able to use tskuyomi in the level like itachis one because he got itachis eye now
but im not sure

 

[orona]

He can't because as it is a book that people want you to buy, it was taken offline. So he can't just go n grab it. Why don't you try?



Ok, I accept that but try not to come off as rude.

We are trying to give as much evidence as possible and let u make ur own mind up. Everything points to the fact that Sasuke CAN use Tsukuyomi.

Apologies for double post

look my bad bro im not trying to be rude that's just how i talk but still the reason im not agreeing with you is because the manga pages being quoted never actually state that he has it. aside from one where itachi is explaining susanoo which is so far the best proof and has me reconsidering.

even that databook entry has flaws because it states susanoo has yata mirror and sword of totsuka but those are only on itachi's susanoo which is leading me to believe that it's only refering to his, also the page showed only shows itachi not sasuke further evidence that it's all refering to just his

 

[Blaze Release]

Its already been said that whilst itachi is better with tsukuyomi, sasuke is better with amaterasu

 

[-Vegeta-]

One last point is that regular genjutsu doesn't put a strain on the eyes. The genjutsu Sasuke used against Shi put a strain on his eyes further proving my point that he does possess tsukuyomi.

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Its already been said that whilst itachi is better with tsukuyomi, sasuke is better with amaterasu

I think we all know that, but that didn't really have anything to do with this thread lol. This thread is about whether Sasuke possesses tsukuyomi or not.

 

[Uchiha Leader]

ever since sasuke was given his ms people have been claiming that he has tsukuyomi like itachi did just because he's shown using genjutsu's but this is total bullshit. he's never once used anything other then a regular ass genjutsu but sasuke/uchiha fanboys refuse to believe it even though it was explained during his fight with the raikage that his left eye has amaterasu and his right has the blaze release/power to control or manipulate the flames.

if someone can come up with an actual manga page or something like that which shows him using tsukuyomi then i'll admit he has it. i want fanboys to admit that he doesn't have it but that'll never happen so **** it.



yes on the poll means you think he has it

sasuke has been using an ms genjutsu.He hasn't been using regular genjutsu,the only thing about sasuke genjutsu is that it is not able to manipulate space and time of opponents brain like itachi.

 

[Punk Hazard]

One last point is that regular genjutsu doesn't put a strain on the eyes. The genjutsu Sasuke used against Shi put a strain on his eyes further proving my point that he does possess tsukuyomi.

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who said he was straining, he could have been focusing. close your eye and use the other to stare at something for more than ten seconds, you will have your eye fell like its straining and moving