Sasuke DOES NOT HAVE TSUKUYOMI!! ABSOLUTE PROOF!! HUGE MISCONCEPTION!

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When most people try to say Sasuke has Tsukuyomi, they use the above image and say: "Look at him holding his RIGHT EYE, that Genjutsu puts strain on his eye, it has to be Tsukuyomi........

THIS IS NOT TRUE!!








And here is the undeniable proof...............


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You see, now Sasuke uses a Genjutsu from his LEFT Mangekyou and it puts the same type of strain on his eye!!!

What Sasuke is using is a Visual Genjutsu of the Sharingan amplified by his Mangekyou Sharingan!

Whenever Sasuke used any Genjutsu through his Mangekyou eyes, he experienced some strain on that eye.


Sasuke CANNOT use Tsukuyomi from both his eyes!!


Tsukuyomi can only exist in ONE EYE, NOT BOTH!

This proves that Sasuke is not using Tsukuyomi, but a Mangekyou amplified Genjutsu!




I know that a lot of people will bring this up to try and argue with me:


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Please answer this question:

If Danzo had witnessed Itachi putting out the flames of Amaterasu and said this:

"That's nothing compared to Sasuke's Kagutsuchi, with which he can freely control the flames".

Would that mean Itachi has Kagutsuchi?!?




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You see guys.......


The manipulation of Time and Space inside a Visual Genjutsu of the Sharingan is known as the Tsukuyomi.


The manipulation of the black flames of Amaterasu is known as the Kagutsuchi!


Important:
A genjutsu can be called Tsukuyomi ONLY IF the user can manipulate time and space within that genjutsu.

In the same way Itachi snuffing Amaterasu's flames cannot be called Kagutsuchi because you have to manipulate the flames for it to be that Jutsu!!



Also, I hope these VIZ SCANS will further help in clearing up this misconception:



Stated by the manga:

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Amaterasu in his LEFT eye, and Kagutsuchi in his RIGHT eye!!!

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Susanoo CAN be awakened by those who have awakened Mangekyou in both of their eyes!!


You see, it is all a big misconception. Sasuke does not have Tsukuyomi! His second eye jutsu is Kagutsuchi!!
 
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Did anyone ever say he did?...........also he may now have it now that he has EMS
 

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There is evidence for both sides so we probably won't know for sure whether he has it or not until it is directly stated. That page has already been brought up a lot though.
 
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so.... maybe he just doesn't like using his brother signature... as that only ms tech besides susano'o he has shown was his blase release ...
 

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Did anyone ever say he did?...........also he may now have it now that he has EMS

No he doesn't! It doesn't work like that!

EMS grants the user eternal light in his eyes, no more strain from using the Jutsu's and a Perfect Susanoo!!

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nice proof, i myself didnt even think about sasuke having tsukuyomi but this clears the doubt. to help what you're saying, at those points in the manga sasuke did not have his ems so all usage of the mangekyou sharingan put a strain on whichever eye he used. good thread!
 

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No he doesn't! It doesn't work like that!

EMS grants the user eternal light in his eyes, no more strain from using the Jutsu's and a Perfect Susanoo!!

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There is no proof he does not have it with ems
 

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No he doesn't! It doesn't work like that!

EMS grants the user eternal light in his eyes, no more strain from using the Jutsu's and a Perfect Susanoo!!

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i agree 100%

i been said sasuke didnt have tsukuyomi but people dont listen

i posted this pic too, i ask why didnt sasuke use tsukuyomi with itachi but none of the fanboys answered me
 

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Sorry, but no. It is a Mangekyou Sharingan jutsu, this has been proven by this thread.
No it hasnts and this kagetsuchi (blaze release) is more of a jutsu type a chakra nature if you will that designated for the flames of amaterasu
 

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No it hasnts and this kagetsuchi (blaze release) is more of a jutsu type a chakra nature if you will that designated for the flames of amaterasu

Sorry, but you're not making any sense there.....

Sasuke uses his Right Eye to manipulate the flames just as Itachi used his Left Eye to manipulate his visual Genjutsu. Both these techniques have names derived from Shinto Deities of Japan and they are Kagutsuchi and Tsukuyomi.

And yes, this thread has proven this fact with undeniable evidence..........
 

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Sorry, but you're not making any sense there.....

Sasuke uses his Right Eye to manipulate the flames just as Itachi used his Left Eye to manipulate his visual Genjutsu. Both these techniques have names derived from Shinto Deities of Japan and they are Kagutsuchi and Tsukuyomi.

And yes, this thread has proven this fact with undeniable evidence..........
Dat evidence!!! Now i believe thanks for making this thread ma nigga.
 

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Sorry, but you're not making any sense there.....

Sasuke uses his Right Eye to manipulate the flames just as Itachi used his Left Eye to manipulate his visual Genjutsu. Both these techniques have names derived from Shinto Deities of Japan and they are Kagutsuchi and Tsukuyomi.

And yes, this thread has proven this fact with undeniable evidence..........

I know were they come from but there is no proof until Kishi says other wise.....in a data book or interview or until its diectly. Blaze release is kekei genkei at its finest. Its chakra nature just like ice release. wood release dust release lava release.
 

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Old news..
How long it's been since that chapter?... it's shocking that people still don't know it...
 

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I know were they come from but there is no proof until Kishi says other wise.....in a data book or interview or until its diectly. Blaze release is kekei genkei at its finest. Its chakra nature just like ice release. wood release dust release lava release.

It is not Nature Manipulation, it is Shape Manipulation. It is a legitimate Jutsu Sasuke uses from his right eye.

Kishi has explicitly stated this in the Viz scans that I provided. The databook was talking about Itachi, that is why only Itachi's weapons were mentioned in it.

Also, the Databook was created by Kishi a long time before this chapter came out, it was only published at a later time........
 

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It is not Nature Manipulation, it is Shape Manipulation. It is a legitimate Jutsu Sasuke uses from his right eye.

Kishi has explicitly stated this in the Viz scans that I provided. The databook was talking about Itachi, that is why only Itachi's weapons were mentioned in it.

Also, the Databook was created by Kishi a long time before this chapter came out, it was only published at a later time........

Kishi is the only one who'd know the answer. and explain how its not nature manipulation and it wasnt that long of a time period either.
the chapter was already wrote when the data book was released
 
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I hav a question,,,,,,,would obito want back his sharingan from kakashi?????
So he would awaken has susanno??????
 
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