Sasuke Didn't *need* Jugo

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While Sasuke has brought Jugo to the frontlines as a kind of battery, don't mistake convenience for requirement; Sasuke does not need Jugo.

All Jugo is doing, is basically providing natural energy for Sasuke's Susano'o, which reacts to it.

You can see this especially from the design of the Susano'o and the Curse. Jugo's Sage transformation "pattern", is "blocky", and the facial coloring is different.
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Sasuke's is the flame pattern. His released state gives him a "star" on his face.
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This is the reason why Karin thought it was Sasuke absorbing natural energy: the pattern is the same.
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Because he doesn't have the Curse mark anymore. He has the gene that allows Jugo to absorb natural energy, which is why his body and chakra [Susano'o] is still compatible with natural energy, and took on a specific look as if he himself was still had the mark.

This serves as foreshadowing for the upcoming Sage Yamabushi Susano'o, Sage perfect Susano'o, and whatever this is supposed to be:
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He needs it. Without it, he's not harming Obito. /thread
 

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Not bad. However, I don't know when we'll see this Susano'o (which is inevitable). It seems the manga is taking a different road until 649...
 

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sure he does, he's using Juugo and Naruto powers atm...

Naruto's Kurama chakra to increase his minimal amount of chakra.
Juugo's Sage Mode to make himself useful at all.

nuff said
 

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so please explain your statement
All Jugo is doing, is basically providing natural energy for Sasuke's Susano'o, which reacts to it.

why doesn't sasuke gather natural energy if he doen't need juugo?

he clearly needs Juugo
 

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If he didn't have Jugo he wouldn't be able to scratch Obito.
 

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without Jugo he's useless...

the design doesn't matter...
 

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IMO....The reason why Sasuke Susanoo has his CM pattern is becuz Jugo is collecting the natural energy and transmitting it to Sasuke, and Sasuke is the one manipulating it to his own............it's like having a curse mark Jugo on his neck.
 

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so please explain your statement

why doesn't sasuke gather natural energy if he doen't need juugo?
Because it's more convenient to have him do it instead. Sasuke is giving the Susano'o the Sage chakra, as opposed to himself, and this chapter makes it very clear that his real power is in a different league.
 

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Lord Jugo made Sausage relevant again.#Gg.
 

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This guy gave a logical (and as far as the manga goes, factual as Kabuto took Jugo's cells and was able to absorb Nature Energy) explanation as to why Sasuke doesn't need Jugo's help to pull off a Senjutsu Susanoo, but of course there will always be those people who still continue to spew nonsense...

Good thread.
 

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I feel Sasuke is acting as a conduit for Juugo's Nature Energy, infusing Susanoo with the ability to make use of the Senjutsu Chakra needed to harm Obito. Before the filter was the curse mark, in this case it's Juugo, a more effective use of Senjustu Chakra too. The curse mark would eat away at Sasuke, while Juugo will offer him a a more "pure" utilization or in this case synergy. I'm in agreement with you that Juugo will act as a battery, I just wonder if Juugo can pass along Nature energy without expending his own chakra, if not there is a limitation to how long the sync can last. Though due to Juugo sharing his body with Sasuke during the Bee fight, I can surmise that the connection would be near effortless.
 

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Yeh so there for he needs jugo for this fight??
 

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This guy gave a logical (and as far as the manga goes, factual as Kabuto took Jugo's cells and was able to absorb Nature Energy) explanation as to why Sasuke doesn't need Jugo's help to pull off a Senjutsu Susanoo, but of course there will always be those people who still continue to spew nonsense...

Good thread.

So , why is Jugo there? .....Kabuto had Jugos DNA in order to make it easier for him to absorb the energy & not worry about it during battle .

Sauske is only compatible to Jugos curse mark & nothing else , he doesn't have senjutsu , Itachi made sure of that .
 

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So , why is Jugo there? .....Kabuto had Jugos DNA in order to make it easier for him to absorb the energy & not worry about it during battle .

Sauske is only compatible to Jugos curse mark & nothing else , he doesn't have senjutsu , Itachi made sure of that .

Pretty sure OP already explained the top. Using Jugo is more convenient than doing it himself.

Did I say Sasuke had Senjutsu? You don't just get Senjutsu, you take in Nature Energy and suck in Nature Energy from the surroundings. Kabuto had Jugo's DNA and was able to take some from the surroundings. from when he merged his body with his to fill in his chest.

Meaning its possible for Sasuke to do the same thing Kabuto did, but he isn't going to enter Sage Mode.
 

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Pretty sure OP already explained the top. Using Jugo is more convenient than doing it himself.

Did I say Sasuke had Senjutsu? You don't just get Senjutsu, you take in Nature Energy and suck in Nature Energy from the surroundings. Kabuto had Jugo's DNA and was able to take some from the surroundings. from when he merged his body with his to fill in his chest.

Meaning its possible for Sasuke to do the same thing Kabuto did, but he isn't going to enter Sage Mode.

I really doubt it , but we'll see .
 

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I really doubt it , but we'll see .

Yeah, I'm not sure if it'll happen or not, but going by what the manga has shown so far, its at least possible.
 

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sure he does, he's using Juugo and Naruto powers atm...

Naruto's Kurama chakra to increase his minimal amount of chakra.
Juugo's Sage Mode to make himself useful at all.

nuff said

I'ma agree with this response U_U
 

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He needs it. Without it, he's not harming Obito. /thread

Exactly, ofcourse he needs Jugo, lmfao how the hell else is he going to fuse his susanoo with senjutsu?
 
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