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Sasuke beat Bee because his power was strong enough.

Sasuke beat Bee because his power was strong enough.

Yes the help from other people. The difference is Naruto getting help from the kyuubi isn't a true representation of Ashura...what is a representation is him seeing the importance of friends and all that. Even without Kurama in the picture he would still reflect Ashura. No even when Naruto became powerful withSM, the whole thing he did with Killer bee was simply to overpower the kyuubi and use it's power for himself. It was alomst at the end of the story that kurama actually wanted to happily hand over his chakra to Naruto.
Now you're saying i'm twisting the story when you cant accpet the fact that Naruto could not and would not have defeated pain without Kuramas power and that it played the biggest role in the fight? don't be hypocritical
That's because Itachi put Sasuke through more Psycological and emotional damage than Obito did to Naruto. The two aren't even remotely comparable. Naruto didn't even see his parents die or how they died, he "heard about it".
But you don't see nardo killing obito or seeking vengeance for his parents deaths. I'm just sayin he had other choices (not saying all of them were good ones) and we've seen characters with bad shit happen to them react differently
lol Ok just stop. You and your fap friends need to stop pulling fanfics outta your ***.
Sasuke had a choice in pretty much everything. He just kept making the incorrect choice every time.
Sasuke lost to Killer B like what 3 times in a short amount of time. Killer B used the fight just to get away and relax. If he was all serious and had no intention of leaving, then Sasuke wouldn't have gotten lucky.
As for Naruto, Kurama was doing everything in its power to take over his body and Naruto had to constantly suppress him.
Basically Kurama was holding Naruto back in part 1, giving Sasuke the edge.
I don't think you even remotely understand what Itachi put him through psychologically.
Big Lie. HUGE LIE XD
Naruto would have died to Haku, Orochimaru, Neji, and Gaara if not for Kurama. Kurama's chakra was much more of an asset than it was a curse in part one and I can't really think of a single instance during that time where it tried to take Naruto over.
The only reasons Sasuke was even jealous of Naruto was his getting using Kyuubi chakra and the one time he saw Naruto's rasengan.
Kurama was holding Naruto back in early Part 1, f*cking up his chakra control and such. If Kurama wasn't there , Naruto wouldn't be the last of the class, he'd end up in another team, and from there on everything would be different. He certainly wouldn't run into Orochimaru, probably wouldn't go to waves to fight Haku, and even if he did, whoever his teammate was would make the fight different. As for Neji and Gaara...I don't know. But probably not.
But yeah. Take the Kyuubi from Naruto and everything changes.
This thread is nothing but restating facts and truth from the Manga since people have suddenly either forgotten, or have become blind with hate and tried to twist the manga to prove a point that really isn't there :lol
1) Sasuke Left the Village because he had to get stronger and training with his team and fighting with Naruto wasn't enough to +1 his power to the level he would need to beat Itachi.
He didn't have a choice and had no way to know the truth about Itachi at that time. He had no choice or control over the evolution of his eyes just like he had no choice or conclusion over the blindness that would follow and there is ONLY ONE WAY to restore his sight, he just like any other Uchiha who went blind cuz of MS didn't have a choice in any of this.
2) On the other hand Naruto had the choice of either advancing his own strength or using the kyuubi's power to advance his strength. At first it all made sense when he got Sage mode training under the same regimen as Jiraiya which made him equal to Sasuke becoming Hebi under Orochimaru then just like that he decided to give up on that and to tame to Kyuubi and take it's power since begging would leave the window open to for his body to be taken over.
Conclusion is simple. Naruto didn't beat pain, his power wasn't strong enough but on the contrary Sasuke beat Bee because his power was strong enough. Naruto had a choice. Kushina, Mito and all the other Uzumaki Jin's before them were all strong but none of them decided to try to take the Kyuubi's power for their own, begging for power? that is something only Naruto choose to do. Trolls need to stop twisting the ****ing story :lol
Sasuke always needed his sharingan in every fight.
no its not his
it is itachi sharingan i mean ems and amaterasu
u r denying what happen in the manga thus bold is fanfic
How can it be a fanfic when Naruto couldn't beat Pain with SM while SAsuke beat bee with MS. Read the manga :lol