Sasuke DID NOT have a choice but Naruto did

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The kyuubi stunted Narutos growth remember. I see you dont remember that. In order for Naruto to ever fully utilize his own power he would have to tame the kyuubis power. Its wasnt by choice. You are some kind of stupid.

The one strongest power he gained on his own which put him on a level above most konoha nin was actually blocked by the Kyuubi. He had no choice since birth to one day tame the kyuubi.
 
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Yes the help from other people. The difference is Naruto getting help from the kyuubi isn't a true representation of Ashura...what is a representation is him seeing the importance of friends and all that. Even without Kurama in the picture he would still reflect Ashura. No even when Naruto became powerful withSM, the whole thing he did with Killer bee was simply to overpower the kyuubi and use it's power for himself. It was alomst at the end of the story that kurama actually wanted to happily hand over his chakra to Naruto.

Now you're saying i'm twisting the story when you cant accpet the fact that Naruto could not and would not have defeated pain without Kuramas power and that it played the biggest role in the fight? don't be hypocritical

That's because Itachi put Sasuke through more Psycological and emotional damage than Obito did to Naruto. The two aren't even remotely comparable. Naruto didn't even see his parents die or how they died, he "heard about it".

Naruto went through hardships being the kyuubis jinchuriki. Their paths are based on how they react to those hardships. Difference is Kyuubi holds Naruto back in every aspect while Sharingan propells Sasuke foward. Naruto had no choice but to tame kyuubi to ever gain complete control over his own chakras. He beat Kyuubi and Pain just like Sasuke beat Itachi and Orochimaru. With help and hard work. They are more alike than you think.
 

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But you don't see nardo killing obito or seeking vengeance for his parents deaths. I'm just sayin he had other choices (not saying all of them were good ones) and we've seen characters with bad shit happen to them react differently

An Uchiha child had those most precious to him killed by the person he loved most, and then is mocked by that person for being weak and told the only way to gain strength is through hatred. And if that isn't enough Itach sealed the deal by mind f##king Sasuke with Tsukuyomi. You seriously can't compare an eight year old going through that to 17 year old Naruto getting over the fact Obito killing his parents.

Hatred was Sasuke'a reason for living back in part one, it was his only goal and turning his back on it would be like him denying himself and everyone of his loved ones that died. Also having It achieve coming back to Konoha and repeating the process most certainly didn't help.

I won't go so far as to say that Sasuke had no choice, but I can't really see someone like Sasuke with his past taking any different course than he did.....

Also what other characters of Sasuke's age did we see go through something as bad. The only person I could think of is Gaara and that was only after he hit a wall and could reevaluate himself. Sasuke didn't hit that point till....well till he faced Naruto.

OP, your post sounds pathetic :p
 

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Sasuke was too butthurt over Naruto's growth throughout the manga.
 

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They both had choices. But by manga facts they're both transmigrants so they both would of ended up fighting each other regardless
 

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lol Ok just stop. You and your fap friends need to stop pulling fanfics outta your ***.

Sasuke had a choice in pretty much everything. He just kept making the incorrect choice every time.
Sasuke lost to Killer B like what 3 times in a short amount of time. Killer B used the fight just to get away and relax. If he was all serious and had no intention of leaving, then Sasuke wouldn't have gotten lucky.

As for Naruto, Kurama was doing everything in its power to take over his body and Naruto had to constantly suppress him.
Basically Kurama was holding Naruto back in part 1, giving Sasuke the edge.
 

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lol Ok just stop. You and your fap friends need to stop pulling fanfics outta your ***.

Sasuke had a choice in pretty much everything. He just kept making the incorrect choice every time.
Sasuke lost to Killer B like what 3 times in a short amount of time. Killer B used the fight just to get away and relax. If he was all serious and had no intention of leaving, then Sasuke wouldn't have gotten lucky.

As for Naruto, Kurama was doing everything in its power to take over his body and Naruto had to constantly suppress him.
Basically Kurama was holding Naruto back in part 1, giving Sasuke the edge.

Big Lie. HUGE LIE XD

Naruto would have died to Haku, Orochimaru, Neji, and Gaara if not for Kurama. Kurama's chakra was much more of an asset than it was a curse in part one and I can't really think of a single instance during that time where it tried to take Naruto over.

The only reasons Sasuke was even jealous of Naruto was his getting using Kyuubi chakra and the one time he saw Naruto's rasengan.
 

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I don't think you even remotely understand what Itachi put him through psychologically.

We all do. But talking about his decision to kill Itachi like its not a decision he made is just stupid.
 

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Big Lie. HUGE LIE XD

Naruto would have died to Haku, Orochimaru, Neji, and Gaara if not for Kurama. Kurama's chakra was much more of an asset than it was a curse in part one and I can't really think of a single instance during that time where it tried to take Naruto over.

The only reasons Sasuke was even jealous of Naruto was his getting using Kyuubi chakra and the one time he saw Naruto's rasengan.

Kurama was holding Naruto back in early Part 1, f*cking up his chakra control and such. If Kurama wasn't there , Naruto wouldn't be the last of the class, he'd end up in another team, and from there on everything would be different. He certainly wouldn't run into Orochimaru, probably wouldn't go to waves to fight Haku, and even if he did, whoever his teammate was would make the fight different. As for Neji and Gaara...I don't know. But probably not.

But yeah. Take the Kyuubi from Naruto and everything changes.
 

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Kurama was holding Naruto back in early Part 1, f*cking up his chakra control and such. If Kurama wasn't there , Naruto wouldn't be the last of the class, he'd end up in another team, and from there on everything would be different. He certainly wouldn't run into Orochimaru, probably wouldn't go to waves to fight Haku, and even if he did, whoever his teammate was would make the fight different. As for Neji and Gaara...I don't know. But probably not.

But yeah. Take the Kyuubi from Naruto and everything changes.

Uh huh :coffee: So you are saying that the Kyuubi held Naruto back while he was at the academy <_< Naruto tbh would have flopped anyway. When he lost to Sasuke in the academy days that was straight Taijutsu. From there they pretty much only showed kids learning things like shurikenjutsu, substations, and clones. At most Naruto at the academy would have been average as far as jutsu goes.
 

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Naruto always needed kurama in every fight
 

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Sasuke always needed his sharingan in every fight.
 

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This thread is nothing but restating facts and truth from the Manga since people have suddenly either forgotten, or have become blind with hate and tried to twist the manga to prove a point that really isn't there :lol

1) Sasuke Left the Village because he had to get stronger and training with his team and fighting with Naruto wasn't enough to +1 his power to the level he would need to beat Itachi.

He didn't have a choice and had no way to know the truth about Itachi at that time. He had no choice or control over the evolution of his eyes just like he had no choice or conclusion over the blindness that would follow and there is ONLY ONE WAY to restore his sight, he just like any other Uchiha who went blind cuz of MS didn't have a choice in any of this.

2) On the other hand Naruto had the choice of either advancing his own strength or using the kyuubi's power to advance his strength. At first it all made sense when he got Sage mode training under the same regimen as Jiraiya which made him equal to Sasuke becoming Hebi under Orochimaru then just like that he decided to give up on that and to tame to Kyuubi and take it's power since begging would leave the window open to for his body to be taken over.

Conclusion is simple. Naruto didn't beat pain, his power wasn't strong enough but on the contrary Sasuke beat Bee because his power was strong enough. Naruto had a choice. Kushina, Mito and all the other Uzumaki Jin's before them were all strong but none of them decided to try to take the Kyuubi's power for their own, begging for power? that is something only Naruto choose to do. Trolls need to stop twisting the ****ing story :lol

u r denying what happen in the manga thus bold is fanfic
 

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How can it be a fanfic when Naruto couldn't beat Pain with SM while SAsuke beat bee with MS. Read the manga :lol


base naruto finished him with rasengan

u cant deny that base/sm naruto did fought Deva Path and

Naruto was able to defend himself against Deva Path attractive and repulsive attack

Deva Path has 3 tech and naruto had no help against Deva Path attractive and repulsive attack

He only got help from karama to break out from Chibaku Tensei the 3rd tech

and sasuke didnt able beat bee even with help from taka

where did u get the idea he beat bee is beyond me
 
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