Sasuke can use Narutos gudodamas.

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Was about to make a thread on this and you saved me the trouble. I guess Sasuke fans have to make threads on such pointless things that are a matter of obviousness. Sasuke did control the orb and used it as a stepping stone. Wait for the Viz translation to hit the hammer on this nail, then these diehards will finally shut up. But wait, then we'll have more nonsense like "Naruto allowed it".

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Thats actually not a nonsense. I dont think that Sasuke would be able to make platform out of Goudama if Naruto wantented it to remain a ball.
 

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Wow, somebody with common sense, and great comprehension skills. This objectively sums it all up.
Lol thanks =D

Everyone's been saying this already tho
My bad if it's repetitive, I just read the thread and jumped in, I haven't bothered to read the comments yet. Except for the one I responded to.
 
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Probably because Obito already had the body of the sage at one point (you could argue he still had it even without the juubi dUe to the color of his hair at the time he took from Madara, the presence of the juubi probably fundamentally changed the make up of his body). Godoudamas are a result of having the sages body. Sasuke only has the eyes. It doesn't make sense for him to have be able to "control" Naruto's power because it disturbs the balance between the two. It's like saying that Naruto can use Sasuke's s/t because he also has the chakra of the sage, even though he doesn't have the eye.

Naruto shaped the Godoudama, and allowed Sasuke to stand on it. The reason Sasuke was unharmed was because Naruto didn't have the intent to harm him.

In the quote Naruto was referring to Sasuke's jutsu, and Sasuke was acknowledging Naruto's ability, and then basically said that they could do these things because they were "blessed with the chakra of the sage".



He's referring to when he stole Bijuu energy from Madara. 669 maybe?
Theres nothing to suggest Obito still had the sages body such as Juubi power. At the time he only had half of Kurama when he stole Madaras staff but he did have the Rinnegan....
 

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Probably because Obito already had the body of the sage. Godoudamas are a result of having the sages body. Sasuke only has the eyes. It doesn't make sense for him to have be able to "control" Naruto's power because it disturbs the balance between the two. It's like saying that Naruto can use Sasuke's s/t because he also has the chakra of the sage, even though he doesn't have the eye.

Naruto shaped the Godoudama, and allowed Sasuke to stand on it. The reason Sasuke was unharmed was because Naruto didn't have the intent to harm him.

In the quote Naruto was referring to Sasuke's jutsu, and Sasuke was acknowledging Naruto's ability, and then basically said that they could do these things because they were "blessed with the chakra of the sage".
Having sage body or chakra is all the same.
Madara attained hashi DNA to get sage's body and in turn get sage's chakra.
Sage chakra empowers sasukes body back.

And how obito was having sage's body? He was no indra or ashura, his rinnegan was that of madara, the zetsu part was probably a piece of some poor soul caught in IT long time ago, he was at the death door.

I believe its merely the skill, note that obito couldnt create one GD on his own w/o madara's juubi chakra, just as sasuke didnt create GD but it wouldnt be far fethed to control it.
 

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Having sage body or chakra is all the same.
Madara attained hashi DNA to get sage's body and in turn get sage's chakra.
Sage chakra empowers sasukes body back.

And how obito was having sage's body? He was no indra or ashura, his rinnegan was that of madara, the zetsu part was probably a piece of some poor soul caught in IT long time ago, he was at the death door.

I believe its merely the skill, note that obito couldnt create one GD on his own w/o madara's juubi chakra, just as sasuke didnt create GD but it wouldnt be far fethed to control it.
Having the sages body is definitly not the same as having the sages body.
 
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Having sage body or chakra is all the same.
Madara attained hashi DNA to get sage's body and in turn get sage's chakra.
Sage chakra empowers sasukes body back.

And how obito was having sage's body? He was no indra or ashura, his rinnegan was that of madara, the zetsu part was probably a piece of some poor soul caught in IT long time ago, he was at the death door.

I believe its merely the skill, note that obito couldnt create one GD on his own w/o madara's juubi chakra, just as sasuke didnt create GD but it wouldnt be far fethed to control it.
This is why I can never take you seriously
 

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Having sage body or chakra is all the same.
Madara attained hashi DNA to get sage's body and in turn get sage's chakra.
Sage chakra empowers sasukes body back.

And how obito was having sage's body? He was no indra or ashura, his rinnegan was that of madara, the zetsu part was probably a piece of some poor soul caught in IT long time ago, he was at the death door.

I believe its merely the skill, note that obito couldnt create one GD on his own w/o madara's juubi chakra, just as sasuke didnt create GD but it wouldnt be far fethed to control it.
Half of Obito's body was made with Hashirama's DNA.
 

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Thats actually not a nonsense. I dont think that Sasuke would be able to make platform out of Goudama if Naruto wantented it to remain a ball.
Which is why I said "wait for the Viz translation." The evidence in the dialogue is overwhelming. But, it could be a translation error. We need a good translation and one more chapter to confirm this.
 

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This is why I can never take you seriously
Get your fish memory else where...cant really prove teach stuff to alzheimer victims

Half of Obito's body was made with Hashirama's DNA.
Well according to latest news white zetsus growing out of gedo mazu are prior victims of IT, either way a white degraded unhuman replica of hashirama created long after his death has poor chace of being ashura's transmigrant.
 

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Theres nothing to suggest Obito still had the sages body such as Juubi power. At the time he only had half of Kurama when he stole Madaras staff but he did have the Rinnegan....
The color of the hair remaining the same is possibly something that could suggest. Like I said, having the Juubi might have fundamentally changed his body permanently. Also, he already knew how use the gudoudama so you could also infer that he was able to due to prior knowledge.

Having sage body or chakra is all the same.
Madara attained hashi DNA to get sage's body and in turn get sage's chakra.
Sage chakra empowers sasukes body back.
That's not true, Madara had to become a jin to get the sages body. Ashura's chakra was for the Rinnegan.

And how obito was having sage's body? He was no indra or ashura, his rinnegan was that of madara, the zetsu part was probably a piece of some poor soul caught in IT long time ago, he was at the death door.
The juubi gave him the sages body. I edited in that the color of the hair remaining the same is possibly something that could suggest that Obito's body was still partly the sages body, possibly because of having the Juubi might have fundamentally changed his body permanently.

I believe its merely the skill, note that obito couldnt create one GD on his own w/o madara's juubi chakra, just as sasuke didnt create GD but it wouldnt be far fethed to control it.
He did create GD's on his own, multiple times.
 

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Get your fish memory else where...cant really prove teach stuff to alzheimer victims


Well according to latest news white zetsus growing out of gedo mazu are prior victims of IT, either way a white degraded unhuman replica of hashirama created long after his death has poor chace of being ashura's transmigrant.

1: The Juubi wasn't Madara's chakara

2. Nobody was able to manipulate the GD's until they got either the Sage's body or the Juubi's chakara
 

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Which is why I said "wait for the Viz translation." The evidence in the dialogue is overwhelming. But, it could be a translation error. We need a good translation and one more chapter to confirm this.
Evidence for what? Sasuke announced that hes going to use Narutos Goudamas to form a platform and he did it. Sasuke cant even create Goudamas, its silly to think that he has a better control of it than Naruto.
 

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Well according to latest news white zetsus growing out of gedo mazu are prior victims of IT, either way a white degraded unhuman replica of hashirama created long after his death has poor chace of being ashura's transmigrant.
And yet the med team confirmed Zetsus had Hashirama's DNA so........................
 

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Sasuke shaped his ratio in order to be compatible with FRS. Although it's moot because the sage gave them abilities none of us have seen before so backtracking it pretty pointless.
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Narutos hand was already out when Sasuke grabbed his leg. Sasuke swinged on his leg and stepped on the platform. Nothing really showing Naruto did it.



Mutual respect is the better term and he has been showing it this whole fight unless you can prove otherwise.
Sasuke did that so his Amaterasu could be combined with Naruto's FRS but we see Yamato do that with his water jutsu with Naruto's Wind Rasengan against Kakuza. A filler went into more detail about if when Jiraiya was teaching Naruto how to be in synch with another (a toad in the training) to combine attacks perfectly. He used an example where he used fire jutsus with Gamabuta's oil when they fought Orochimaru when they were fighting Jiraiya/Tsunade vs Orochimaru. This is also shown when the Kages combined their attacks against Madara, it was Mei's water dragon, raton from A and Gaara's Sand if I'm remembering right. That doesn't mean Sasuke can take control of Naruto's orb.

Also Shikamaru/Ino/Choji were using their jutsus in union since part 1, it just got way better in compatibility in the war as seen here , , , , and .

As for the pic you posted, if you look in that picture then you see Naruto's other hand is about just as high or higher than his other hand. Then when it shows the orb being shaped manipulated, Naruto's other hand is down while the one controlling the orb is still up. Look at Naruto's left hand being as high or higher than his right here and his left hand is down but his right is up facing the orb here . I didn't notice that at first but thanks to you I caught it, Naruto controlled the orb and you helped proved that. Thanks!
 

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I disagree. It's clearly implied that naruto manipulated the TSB for Sasuke to use as a platform/foothold. Sasuke saying im going to go ahead and use this as a platform was him informing Naruto that he was going to continue to use as a platform. There absolutely nothing to suggest that Sasuke has the ability to manipulate the TSB whereas Naruto has been shown in the past to be able to manipulate it in forms of staffs. Therefore it is far more likely that this particular feat goes to Naruto.

On a side note: We're the rods used to incapacitate Hashirama and Tobirama the same as what Nagato used against Naruto during their fight? If so then that could be why he was advised not to remove then as Madara's chakra would have been flowing through them and could have interfered with Sasuke's chakra.
 

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I disagree. It's clearly implied that naruto manipulated the TSB for Sasuke to use as a platform/foothold. Sasuke saying im going to go ahead and use this as a platform was him informing Naruto that he was going to continue to use as a platform. There absolutely nothing to suggest that Sasuke has the ability to manipulate the TSB whereas Naruto has been shown in the past to be able to manipulate it in forms of staffs. Therefore it is far more likely that this particular feat goes to Naruto.

On a side note: We're the rods used to incapacitate Hashirama and Tobirama the same as what Nagato used against Naruto during their fight? If so then that could be why he was advised not to remove then as Madara's chakra would have been flowing through them and could have interfered with Sasuke's chakra.
Great post, and yeah. Those rods are the same chakra rods that Nagato used on Naruto.
 
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