Sasuke can use Narutos gudodamas.

savageuchiha · Jun 18, 2014

Y erebody be hating on sasuke..hes the Lebron of Naruto..he fails one time and then hes fodder..quit hating...sasuke is how everyone wanted vegeta to
..be

Turson · Jun 18, 2014

shelke said:
Was about to make a thread on this and you saved me the trouble. I guess Sasuke fans have to make threads on such pointless things that are a matter of obviousness. Sasuke did control the orb and used it as a stepping stone. Wait for the Viz translation to hit the hammer on this nail, then these diehards will finally shut up. But wait, then we'll have more nonsense like "Naruto allowed it".

Good job and + rep.

Thats actually not a nonsense. I dont think that Sasuke would be able to make platform out of Goudama if Naruto wantented it to remain a ball.

AllHailKurama · Jun 18, 2014

Remedy said:
Wow, somebody with common sense, and great comprehension skills. This objectively sums it all up.

Lol thanks =D

Kibouu said:
Everyone's been saying this already tho

My bad if it's repetitive, I just read the thread and jumped in, I haven't bothered to read the comments yet. Except for the one I responded to.

ComplexCity · Jun 18, 2014

AllHailKurama said:
Lol thanks =D

My bad if it's repetitive, I just read the thread and jumped in, I haven't bothered to read the comments yet. Except for the one I responded to.

No need to apologize, just throwing it out there. This is a hot threads worthy thread because of the amount of bs in the OP

Dantee · Jun 18, 2014

AllHailKurama said:
Probably because Obito already had the body of the sage at one point (you could argue he still had it even without the juubi dUe to the color of his hair at the time he took from Madara, the presence of the juubi probably fundamentally changed the make up of his body). Godoudamas are a result of having the sages body. Sasuke only has the eyes. It doesn't make sense for him to have be able to "control" Naruto's power because it disturbs the balance between the two. It's like saying that Naruto can use Sasuke's s/t because he also has the chakra of the sage, even though he doesn't have the eye.

Naruto shaped the Godoudama, and allowed Sasuke to stand on it. The reason Sasuke was unharmed was because Naruto didn't have the intent to harm him.

In the quote Naruto was referring to Sasuke's jutsu, and Sasuke was acknowledging Naruto's ability, and then basically said that they could do these things because they were "blessed with the chakra of the sage".

He's referring to when he stole Bijuu energy from Madara. 669 maybe?

Theres nothing to suggest Obito still had the sages body such as Juubi power. At the time he only had half of Kurama when he stole Madaras staff but he did have the Rinnegan....

AlphaScythian · Jun 18, 2014

AllHailKurama said:
Probably because Obito already had the body of the sage. Godoudamas are a result of having the sages body. Sasuke only has the eyes. It doesn't make sense for him to have be able to "control" Naruto's power because it disturbs the balance between the two. It's like saying that Naruto can use Sasuke's s/t because he also has the chakra of the sage, even though he doesn't have the eye.

Naruto shaped the Godoudama, and allowed Sasuke to stand on it. The reason Sasuke was unharmed was because Naruto didn't have the intent to harm him.

In the quote Naruto was referring to Sasuke's jutsu, and Sasuke was acknowledging Naruto's ability, and then basically said that they could do these things because they were "blessed with the chakra of the sage".

Having sage body or chakra is all the same.
Madara attained hashi DNA to get sage's body and in turn get sage's chakra.
Sage chakra empowers sasukes body back.

And how obito was having sage's body? He was no indra or ashura, his rinnegan was that of madara, the zetsu part was probably a piece of some poor soul caught in IT long time ago, he was at the death door.

I believe its merely the skill, note that obito couldnt create one GD on his own w/o madara's juubi chakra, just as sasuke didnt create GD but it wouldnt be far fethed to control it.

Mad Daz · Jun 18, 2014

AlphaScythian said:
Having sage body or chakra is all the same.
Madara attained hashi DNA to get sage's body and in turn get sage's chakra.
Sage chakra empowers sasukes body back.

And how obito was having sage's body? He was no indra or ashura, his rinnegan was that of madara, the zetsu part was probably a piece of some poor soul caught in IT long time ago, he was at the death door.

I believe its merely the skill, note that obito couldnt create one GD on his own w/o madara's juubi chakra, just as sasuke didnt create GD but it wouldnt be far fethed to control it.

Having the sages body is definitly not the same as having the sages body.

ComplexCity · Jun 18, 2014

AlphaScythian said:
Having sage body or chakra is all the same.
Madara attained hashi DNA to get sage's body and in turn get sage's chakra.
Sage chakra empowers sasukes body back.

And how obito was having sage's body? He was no indra or ashura, his rinnegan was that of madara, the zetsu part was probably a piece of some poor soul caught in IT long time ago, he was at the death door.

I believe its merely the skill, note that obito couldnt create one GD on his own w/o madara's juubi chakra, just as sasuke didnt create GD but it wouldnt be far fethed to control it.

This is why I can never take you seriously

TrollingSage · Jun 18, 2014

AlphaScythian said:
Having sage body or chakra is all the same.
Madara attained hashi DNA to get sage's body and in turn get sage's chakra.
Sage chakra empowers sasukes body back.

And how obito was having sage's body? He was no indra or ashura, his rinnegan was that of madara, the zetsu part was probably a piece of some poor soul caught in IT long time ago, he was at the death door.

I believe its merely the skill, note that obito couldnt create one GD on his own w/o madara's juubi chakra, just as sasuke didnt create GD but it wouldnt be far fethed to control it.

Half of Obito's body was made with Hashirama's DNA.

tony tony chopper · Jun 18, 2014

sasuke is solo king and do you have manga facts that prove him wrong

shelke · Jun 18, 2014

Turson said:
Thats actually not a nonsense. I dont think that Sasuke would be able to make platform out of Goudama if Naruto wantented it to remain a ball.

Which is why I said "wait for the Viz translation." The evidence in the dialogue is overwhelming. But, it could be a translation error. We need a good translation and one more chapter to confirm this.

AlphaScythian · Jun 18, 2014

Kibouu said:
This is why I can never take you seriously

Get your fish memory else where...cant really prove teach stuff to alzheimer victims

TrollingSage said:
Half of Obito's body was made with Hashirama's DNA.

Well according to latest news white zetsus growing out of gedo mazu are prior victims of IT, either way a white degraded unhuman replica of hashirama created long after his death has poor chace of being ashura's transmigrant.

AllHailKurama · Jun 18, 2014

' ~ Dantee ~ ' said:
Theres nothing to suggest Obito still had the sages body such as Juubi power. At the time he only had half of Kurama when he stole Madaras staff but he did have the Rinnegan....

The color of the hair remaining the same is possibly something that could suggest. Like I said, having the Juubi might have fundamentally changed his body permanently. Also, he already knew how use the gudoudama so you could also infer that he was able to due to prior knowledge.

AlphaScythian said:
Having sage body or chakra is all the same.
Madara attained hashi DNA to get sage's body and in turn get sage's chakra.
Sage chakra empowers sasukes body back.

That's not true, Madara had to become a jin to get the sages body. Ashura's chakra was for the Rinnegan.

And how obito was having sage's body? He was no indra or ashura, his rinnegan was that of madara, the zetsu part was probably a piece of some poor soul caught in IT long time ago, he was at the death door.

The juubi gave him the sages body. I edited in that the color of the hair remaining the same is possibly something that could suggest that Obito's body was still partly the sages body, possibly because of having the Juubi might have fundamentally changed his body permanently.

I believe its merely the skill, note that obito couldnt create one GD on his own w/o madara's juubi chakra, just as sasuke didnt create GD but it wouldnt be far fethed to control it.

He did create GD's on his own, multiple times.

shelke · Jun 18, 2014

TrollingSage said:
Half of Obito's body was made with Hashirama's DNA.

And what difference would that make?

ComplexCity · Jun 18, 2014

AlphaScythian said:
Get your fish memory else where...cant really prove teach stuff to alzheimer victims

Well according to latest news white zetsus growing out of gedo mazu are prior victims of IT, either way a white degraded unhuman replica of hashirama created long after his death has poor chace of being ashura's transmigrant.

1: The Juubi wasn't Madara's chakara

2. Nobody was able to manipulate the GD's until they got either the Sage's body or the Juubi's chakara

Turson · Jun 18, 2014

shelke said:
Which is why I said "wait for the Viz translation." The evidence in the dialogue is overwhelming. But, it could be a translation error. We need a good translation and one more chapter to confirm this.

Evidence for what? Sasuke announced that hes going to use Narutos Goudamas to form a platform and he did it. Sasuke cant even create Goudamas, its silly to think that he has a better control of it than Naruto.

TrollingSage · Jun 18, 2014

AlphaScythian said:
Get your fish memory else where...cant really prove teach stuff to alzheimer victims

Well according to latest news white zetsus growing out of gedo mazu are prior victims of IT, either way a white degraded unhuman replica of hashirama created long after his death has poor chace of being ashura's transmigrant.

And yet the med team confirmed Zetsus had Hashirama's DNA so........................

xxSAGExx · Jun 18, 2014

' ~ Dantee ~ ' said:
Sasuke shaped his ratio in order to be compatible with FRS. Although it's moot because the sage gave them abilities none of us have seen before so backtracking it pretty pointless.

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Narutos hand was already out when Sasuke grabbed his leg. Sasuke swinged on his leg and stepped on the platform. Nothing really showing Naruto did it.

Mutual respect is the better term and he has been showing it this whole fight unless you can prove otherwise.

Sasuke did that so his Amaterasu could be combined with Naruto's FRS but we see Yamato do that with his water jutsu with Naruto's Wind Rasengan against Kakuza. A filler went into more detail about if when Jiraiya was teaching Naruto how to be in synch with another (a toad in the training) to combine attacks perfectly. He used an example where he used fire jutsus with Gamabuta's oil when they fought Orochimaru when they were fighting Jiraiya/Tsunade vs Orochimaru. This is also shown when the Kages combined their attacks against Madara, it was Mei's water dragon, raton from A and Gaara's Sand if I'm remembering right. That doesn't mean Sasuke can take control of Naruto's orb.

Also Shikamaru/Ino/Choji were using their jutsus in union since part 1, it just got way better in compatibility in the war as seen here