Sasuke as of recently vs. Itachi

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i believe sasuke has the potential to become better than itachi, but at the current time, i dont think he'll stand much of a chance.. itachi knows his techniques better than anyone else.. and hes smart enough to figure out how to counter them.. not to mention sasuke's susano is incomplete.. and he still can't use it to its full potential.. i think if itachi was at full power, and healthy, he would definately defeat sasuke.. the mind games being the biggest help IMO..

btw, while writing this, i was wondering.. how did itachi get sick?? he's just been known to have a disease.. i wonder if EVERYTHING was staged..
 

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it would depend on how big the difference between the ill itachi and the healthy itachi is, and how much curse seal strengthens sasuke's jutsus.
in the battle we saw sasuke win every clash of two attacks. his katon was stronger, he broke tsukuyomi with his own genjutsu and was was at least as skilled as itachi in using weapons. if he would be still able to do that without cs against a healthy itachi, he could force itachi to use ms and after that attack him with his ms which would lead to an easy win.
if it was the other way round, itachi would win.


@susano's sword i am not quite sure weather it is totsuka or not, but dont forget that part of it's hilt were in the smog when sasuke used it. second the bottle is used to imprison people who are hit by it, which wasnt necessary when sasuke used it.
 
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A healthy Itachi makes a lot of difference. I'd expect him not to tire out quickly and use more MS techniques etc. Zetsu did make the comments that Itachi's movement were not the same as usual and were rather sluggish. Genjutsu is a tie and although Sasuke has Amaterasu and can wield it better, they both would have most likely switched to Susanoo if it came to it. The Totsuka Sword and Yata's Mirror of Itachi's Susanoo would've crushed Sasuke's version since it currently incomplete and lacking legendary weaponary. It is Itachi's Susanoo that is the real key to beating him and only a few would be able to get past it.
 

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A healthy Itachi makes a lot of difference. I'd expect him not to tire out quickly and use more MS techniques etc. Zetsu did make the comments that Itachi's movement were not the same as usual and were rather sluggish. Genjutsu is a tie and although Sasuke has Amaterasu and can wield it better, they both would have most likely switched to Susanoo if it came to it. The Totsuka Sword and Yata's Mirror of Itachi's Susanoo would've crushed Sasuke's version since it currently incomplete and lacking legendary weaponary. It is Itachi's Susanoo that is the real key to beating him and only a few would be able to get past it.
yeah.few as in NONE
 

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yeah.few as in NONE
Well I'm sure that Madara can teleport within it, Zetsu can morph from right under it, Minato can teleport as well if he managed to tag Itachi before hand and Pain could use Chibaku Tensei to trap till Itachi runs out of Chakra or suffocates. It's not unbeatable.
 

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Then the kyuubi needs to get his eyes checked...

Itachi's Totsuka:
(with some strange summoning bottle on the end)
Sasukes random sword:
(without the bottle)
I need to check my eyes? So your mysterious vision can see the bottom half of the sword?
 

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its true that he can use the sword i should restate what i meant
"sasuke's mastery of susano'o is not as complete as itachi's"

that way my point is clear
You're right. When I read what I wrote it looked really rude and I wanted to apologize for that, I did not intend it to be.

I think that sword is Totsuka, we could not see the gourd but we also have to note that the bottom half was not shown. Really, even in the Naruto universe it would not matter if Sasuke said it was Totsuka, people would still disbelieve it until they saw that... It's like with Madara, he states that he is Madara, we see a Sharingan, Itachi says he's Madara, Kakashi concludes and confronts him about it and he admits it, but still people are skeptical.
I was just trying to basically say, the sword looks enough like Totsuka, that it is Totsuka.
 

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Well I'm sure that Madara can teleport within it, Zetsu can morph from right under it, Minato can teleport as well if he managed to tag Itachi before hand and Pain could use Chibaku Tensei to trap till Itachi runs out of Chakra or suffocates. It's not unbeatable.
Somebody made a really interesting case against Itachi vs. Pain in another thread. It was something like "Hi Susanoo, I'm Chibaku Tensei."
It went into theory about how Susanoo would not really be able to do much because it is not a direct attack. If Itachi gets sucked into Susanoo, then it is not doing its job guarding him from outside the ball of gravity. All Pain would have to do is sustain Chibaku Tensei while he was in there.
 

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Somebody made a really interesting case against Itachi vs. Pain in another thread. It was something like "Hi Susanoo, I'm Chibaku Tensei."
It went into theory about how Susanoo would not really be able to do much because it is not a direct attack. If Itachi gets sucked into Susanoo, then it is not doing its job guarding him from outside the ball of gravity. All Pain would have to do is sustain Chibaku Tensei while he was in there.
Yup. Pain pretty tossed the black orb way into the sky. It's questionable if Susanoo could seal that miniblack hole but it'd be out of reach regardless. We saw the range and Susanoo would look like an ant if compared side by side. Itachi has to stand on something right.
 
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