Sasuke as final villain

[Florio]

I still think there is a good possibility that Sasuke is going to be the final villain. I think Kaguya is just a placeholder for now. I was reading a theory about Madara being revived and helping to stop the Infinite Tsukiyomi and deroot the God Tree, and help fight Kaguya. Well I think that is actually a real possibility now.

I mean think about it. Madara has been tricked this whole time, he thought that darkness was the way but only because he himself was manipulated by Black Zetsu. Once he is revived (its obviously going to happen) he is going to know that his lifes work was a sham, and could very possibly help the good guys out. Maybe he then realize the error of his ways.

I'm not sure exactly how its going to happen, but if Sasuke does become Final Villain, he is going to be just like another Madara. Hashirama said it himself, "If we don't help this Uchiha out now, then he will surely become the Next Madara.". There is nothing that someone like Hashirama could do to help Sasuke, Sasuke's problems lie within reality, which means he hates reality. I think Sasuke is going to go batshit insane in his loathing for humanity and want to kill everyone basically.

Sounds like a pretty good final villain to me, and then Madara will look at Sasuke and see a mirror image of himself. He will try to TnJ Sasuke but it won't work, because Sasuke just hates his reality.

I mean come on, its so obvious that Sasuke is going to become bad again. With him saying he wants to "burn everything" on chapter 634, and Kakashi questions his true intentions in recent chapters, and then Sasuke stating to Naruto that he only saved the others because they were conveniently standing beside him. He is still bad, and if you think otherwise than you are blind.

Kishi always leaves subtle but obvious hints to these kinds of things. For example everyone always overshot who Tobi could have been, but the obvious and non-complex answer was Obito. Another example is Black Zetsu, I always knew there was something suspicious about him and that there was more to him. It was obvious since his first appearance when he showed up at the VOTE after Naruto and Sasuke's fight.

 

[Sjhsgjhsgjshjshjsh]

That would be very disappointing and expected .

 

[wjcostello12887]

I think you are underestimating Sasuke's resolve. Regardless of what he has said or down since he has come to the battlefield, the one thing that stinks out in my mind, which makes me think you are wrong, is that he said he wanted to be Hokage.

It is probably more likely that Naruto and Sasuke will end up fighting for the title of Hokage at the end of the series, once they defeat Kaguya, the God Tree, and such.

 

[cafe123]

I don't think he'll be a FV but he will be involved in the final big fight between him and Naruto.

 

[Zanithe]

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[Gagster]

I still think there is a good possibility that Sasuke is going to be the final villain. I think Kaguya is just a placeholder for now. I was reading a theory about Madara being revived and helping to stop the Infinite Tsukiyomi and deroot the God Tree, and help fight Kaguya. Well I think that is actually a real possibility now, I mean think about it. Madara has been tricked this whole time, he thought that darkness was the way but only because he himself was manipulated by Black Zetsu. Once he is revived (its obviously going to happen) he is going to know that his lifes work was a sham, and could very possibly help the good guys out. Maybe he then realize the error of his ways.

I'm not sure exactly how its going to happen, but if Sasuke does become Final Villain, he is going to be just like another Madara. Hashirama said it himself, "If we don't help this Uchiha out now, then he will surely become the Next Madara.". There is nothing that someone like Hashirama could do to help Sasuke, Sasuke's problems lie within reality, which means he hates reality. I think Sasuke is going to go batshit insane in his loathing for humanity and want to kill everyone basically. Sounds like a pretty good final villain to me, and then Madara will look at Sasuke and see a mirror image of himself. He will try to TnJ Sasuke but it won't work, because Sasuke just hates his reality.

I mean come on, its so obvious that Sasuke is going to become bad again. With him saying he wants to "burn everything" on chapter 634, and Kakashi questions his true intentions in recent chapters, and then Sasuke stating to Naruto that he only saved the others because they were conveniently standing beside him. He is still bad, and if you think otherwise than you are blind. Kishi always leaves subtle but obvious hints to these kinds of things. For example everyone always overshot who Tobi could have been, but the obvious and non-complex answer was Obito. Another example is Black Zetsu, I always knew there was something suspicious about him and that there was more to him. It was obvious since his first appearance when he showed up at the VOTE after Naruto and Sasuke's fight.

Wut ?

 

[Florio]

That would be very disappointing and expected .

Why would it be dissapointing? I think it would be cool, everyone VS. Sasuke. He easily makes the best FV, I mean come on. Madara was actually cool (still is) and likable when he was younger. I honestly think Madara is more good than Sasuke. Sasuke doesn't care about anything but himself.

But what exactly would be dissapointing about it? Who doesn't want to see an evil Sasuke owning everyone?

 

[ultraChalk]

See, I like this. I like the idea of Sasuke being a villain. This way we can quit with all the 'anti-hero' shannanigans and just have him be a straight up bad guy who does what he wants. I would respect him more as a villain than a d-bag 'hero' who's 'actually a good guy with good intentions but forced ways of reaching them'.

 

[Blunt]

As stated above, you clearly don't understand or can even grasp Sasuke's resolve. He is dead set on demonstrating what a real Kage is before he dies, he is dedicated to changing the entire shinobi system and fix the the flaws it has. (Utilizing Bijuu power in order to gain military might and the kage system namely.)


All of this without including the fact that Itachi died protecting Konoha, Sasuke specifically stated he will not let Itachi's sacrifice be in vain.

 

[Complex]

No!!! Sakura should be the final villain U_U

 

[Airi]

That wall of text though!

 

[ClarifyingThings]

That would be very disappointing and expected .

Agreed, He already knows everything about Bz controlling the uchiha and The curse of hatred and etc, so what's the point of him still being evil?, also after all the people that already talked to him, it just wouldn't make sense at this point

 

[Florio]

I think you are underestimating Sasuke's resolve. Regardless of what he has said or down since he has come to the battlefield, the one thing that stinks out in my mind, which makes me think you are wrong, is that he said he wanted to be Hokage.

It is probably more likely that Naruto and Sasuke will end up fighting for the title of Hokage at the end of the series, once they defeat Kaguya, the God Tree, and such.

Just because he said it, doesn't mean he meant it like that. Kakashi and Sakura asked him self what he meant by wanting to "become hokage". For all we know, Sasuke just wants to control everything. He will realize that he isn't fit to be a Hokage, but to be a dictator.

 

[Blunt]

Wjcostello, I believe the final fight will be over the bijuu more so than the Kage title. The battle that decides the fate of the bijuu.

 

[Jon Snow.]

Wouldn't really make sense.

 

[CloyEscapade]

No!!! Sakura should be the final villain U_U

Sasori actually killed Sakura... She's been a puppet the whole time

 

[Florio]

As stated above, you clearly don't understand or can even grasp Sasuke's resolve. He is dead set on demonstrating what a real Kage is before he dies, he is dedicated to changing the entire shinobi system and fix the the flaws it has. (Utilizing Bijuu power in order to gain military might and the kage system namely.)


All of this without including the fact that Itachi died protecting Konoha, Sasuke specifically stated he will not let Itachi's sacrifice be in vain.

Idk what he said or didn't say, anyone who says they only saved someone because they were conveniently beside the other person who he is only saving to benefit himself, is BAD. I think Sasuke is just confused about what he wants and he is still thinking, but he is ultimately going to chose the evil side because its more to his liking. Regardless if its what Itachi's wants or not.

He already knows everything about Bz controlling the uchiha and The curse of hatred and etc, so what's the point of him still being evil?, also after all the people that already talked to him, it just wouldn't make sense at this point

Because it really doesn't matter to him. Someone who is filled with as much hatred as him isn't going to care about some "curse of hatred". He will rationalize it to his favor, saying that he became that the Uchiha's became that way because of all the other ninjas, or by nature. And if the talk with Hashirama and Hagoromo were really had that much of an impact, I think we would have noticed a difference (I sure didn't).

That wall of text though!

I cleaned it up a bit.

 

[Levias]

Oh dear, please no.

 

[ClarifyingThings]

Idk what he said or didn't say, anyone who says they only saved someone because they were conveniently beside the other person who he is only saving to benefit himself, is BAD. I think Sasuke is just confused about what he wants and he is still thinking, but he is ultimately going to chose the evil side because its more to his liking. Regardless if its what Itachi's wants or not.

Because it really doesn't matter to him. Someone who is filled with as much hatred as him isn't going to care about some "curse of hatred". He will rationalize it to his favor, saying that he became that the Uchiha's became that way because of all the other ninjas, or by nature. And if the talk with Hashirama and Hagoromo were really had that much of an impact, I think we would have noticed a difference (I sure didn't).



I cleaned it up a bit.

they made no change in him??, didn't he say before that he wanted to "destroy the village and everyone in it", now he started actually thinking smart, and using his brain, if he turned evil now, that would just be regression for his character

 

[Florio]

they made no change in him??, didn't he say before that he wanted to "destroy the village and everyone in it", now he started actually thinking smart, and using his brain, if he turned evil now, that would just be regression for his character

How would it be regression of his character, if Kishimoto is trying to make his characters as realistic as possible than they wouldn't just follow one direction, they would consider everything. Itachi said himself that Sasuke can be dyed and color. Sasuke could very well change his mind, and he didn't say anything when Kakashi and Sakura asked him what exactly his resolve was. You are completely ignoring the fact that he also said he wanted to "burn it all down" after his so called positive interaction with the Edo Hokage's (I think if anything his discussion with The Hokage's made him more evil, Sasuke just becomes more evil with the more he knows), and that he also said he only saved Sakura and Kakashi because they were beside Naruto after his off-panel discussion with Hagoromo.

Now that I think about it, the fact that Sasuke's talk with Hagoromo was off-panel just points towards Sasuke becoming Final Villain. We will probably eventually be shown his discussion with Hagoromo and it will be revealing in some dark way.