BM is soloing simply because Ay is out match with their combo.
I don't understand how sasuke would add enton to the twirl? Would he light the tails on fire?
that's just Naruto's KCM cloak, and kakashi's raiton kunai are more powerful than minato's rasengan so I don't really see a big issue or how it applies to the BM cloak.
It didn't do any damage to naruto though, and it only reset his bone, it didn't dislodge it. Finally that was a juuken coming from V1 Hinata, the same chick who
If they can turn that whirlwind into an amaterasu tornado, I could see them forcing naruto to eventually cancel his giant chakra avatar. But other than that, I don't see how they really hurt him. Bee's best attack is rapidfire bijuudama. Naruto's avatar
The reason I doubt this is because it required a fuuton on the same level as sasuke's enton in order to make it more powerful, it's power can't simply be increased by a normal fuuton. Bee's whirlwind while large in AoE is pretty weak in attack power as it only knocked the 1 tailed jinchuriki down, it didn't actually do much damage to them. Contrast that to things like Fuuton rasenshuriken and it doesn't hold a candle to it.
Because BM is a level beyond KCM, thus the cloak's durability should increase proportionally unless feats say otherwise.
It doesn't matter if it wasn't used with killing intent, Hinata has the ability to put that kind of power behind her gentle fist abilities, yet she used it on naruto's shoulder at point blank range, thus that power setting his bone back in place is no kind of downplay on the BM durability.
You can compare them. Sasuke's PS is much smaller than madara's and sasuke as a whole hasn't surpassed madara yet, if anything sasuke's PS blades are not as powerful as madara's.
That jutsu is not a Futon to begin with. Its simply physical strength. It causes him to spin rapidly, resulting in the generation of tremendous gusts of wind. Strong enough enough to level the terrain of its surroundings. Enton will simply follow the attack, like how Fire Release gets feeded with Wind.
level beyond is pushing it. There is more pros then cons with BM concerning the two. Durability hasn't shown any different, until you show me.
I wasn't downplaying it. I was simply stating that its not invincible as you make it to be. And Sasuke and Bee still have what it takes to damage Naruto.
First Juubi laser. It was meant to penetrate then explode. since here[
Ok. It still should be enough.
It doesn't matter if it doesn't use fuuton chakra, natural wind and wind created by jutsu has functioned exactly the same, see baku's suction and obito's kamui and how they power up katons. I don't think enton will follow the attack as unless the flames come into contact with another object, they don't jump from object to object, rather they stay on them.
agreed.
Level beyond is definitely not pushing it. BM exceeds KCM in literally every single way except for conservation of chakra. And no, if you want to say the durability is the same, it's you who has the burden of proof to show that as the BM cloak has always been implied to be the next level after KCM.
I'm not saying it's invincible.
But the juubi-laser is ridiculously powerful, it overpowered 9 mountain vaporizers without even getting weaker, I don't see how Naruto's tails getting blown off by that kind of power means his avatar has a weakness to cutting attacks. Even Madara's PS slashes don't even begin to compare to the power of the juubi's laser how is Sasuke's sword going to do anything?
Naruto didn't need to block, he could have easily dodged, considering bee had the time to run over there and grab two of those shuriken with his tentacles. Plus, all of Obito's weapons have anti-bijuu properties on them so it's not a normal cutting attack. Finally, even if it wouldn't cut naruto, why would he just stand there and let it hit him?
of course it's not enough. Not when the juubi's laser only destroys six of his tails. Not even madara's would be enough.
Mind as well read the whole part when you agree, instead of wasting time writing this.
BM, hasn't shown to be faster, It hasn't shown to have more durability, with my example below.
Umm VVV
The one used on Naruto was much weaker then the one you just explained
My whole point was that, the Shiruken was posed as a threat (Which could hurt him if he didn't counter it) to begin with.
Umm.. Excuse me while I abandon thread.
I agreed with the statement that a swing of his tails while armored is going to be more powerful than unarmored tails, not that he'd spread the enton all around by swinging his tails.
BM has shown to be much faster when he deflected 5 bijuudamas with his speed and blew up mokuryu's face with his speed. he also has used that speed across much further distances than KCM Naruto has used his 'flash' speed. Now if you want to assert that BM Naruto is not more durable than KCM what evidence do you have?
The one used on NAruto was the exact same one that I am talking about. If you don't agree with that, explain why the one used on naruto was weaker than the one i just explained.
and my point was that the it wasn't necessarily a threat to him, and if it was it was probably due to its anti-bijuu properties.
I would love to see why you believe madara's slash that's only comparable to a bijuudama in power would be enough when Naruto's tails block the laserbeam that easily overpowered 9 bijuudamas and erased a mountainrange.
