Sasori vs Kakashi

[YellowFang]

kakashitards should be happy that kishi still spare a fodder like him.(*cough*jiraiya,orochimaru,itachi,chiyo *cough*)

Actually, its opposite, but I do really feel sorry for Jiraiya, or and especially Itachi one of my best ones.............

 

[The Parm]

I feel like kakashi could win if the fight didn't drag on too long but if sasori were to get the time to get off some big moves and force kakashi to counter enough kakashi would lose because he doesn't have enough chakra and sasori can just throw on endless amounts of moves because its mostly ninja tools and he doesn't really use much chakra. But itachi would beat both of them xp

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

You think Kakashi gains xp. over one in that much time, if it would be 10 fights Kakashi's gonna win the last 9 fights but as the starter said they had knowledge abt. each other so Kakashi wins fair and square.

Yeah right. Not one single person has said how Kakashi would deal with Sasori's poison. If you think that Kakashi can go that whole fight without even a scratch then obviously nothing more needs to be said because you are overpowering Kakashi in your mind.

As to the people who say that Kakashi would use kamui on Sasori's heart, how would he know where his heart is? It is in the middle of a puppet inside of another puppet. I don't think raikiri would take out Hiruko form either. Whenever Kakashi uses it, the wound on his opponent is fairly small and doesn't do damage outside of the area it pierces. So Hiruko gets a hole in it, I think that form can survive a raikiri or two.

 

[The Parm]

Yeah right. Not one single person has said how Kakashi would deal with Sasori's poison. If you think that Kakashi can go that whole fight without even a scratch then obviously nothing more needs to be said because you are overpowering Kakashi in your mind.

As to the people who say that Kakashi would use kamui on Sasori's heart, how would he know where his heart is? It is in the middle of a puppet inside of another puppet. I don't think raikiri would take out Hiruko form either. Whenever Kakashi uses it, the wound on his opponent is fairly small and doesn't do damage outside of the area it pierces. So Hiruko gets a hole in it, I think that form can survive a raikiri or two.

True, I think it would be really interesting to see how Kakashi would kill off Hiruko. But you also have to keep in mind, he is the copy ninja. He would have a lot of jutsus he could pull out of his sleeve to break the puppet. I agree with you're first paragraph though. Kakashi definitely would get poisoned at some point there's almost no way he would be able to dodge EVERYTHING.

 

[YellowFang]

As to the people who say that Kakashi would use kamui on Sasori's heart, how would he know where his heart is? It is in the middle of a puppet inside of another puppet. I don't think raikiri would take out Hiruko form either. Whenever Kakashi uses it, the wound on his opponent is fairly small and doesn't do damage outside of the area it pierces. So Hiruko gets a hole in it, I think that form can survive a raikiri or two.

There is no need to pinpoint Sasori's heart, if its for first and last option then he would simply warp whole of hiruko puppet in another dimension.
And simply put if the fight is quick as it will be coz they know about each other then Kakashi wins, no need of overrated statement BUT if it drags long, I mean if Sasori could drag the fight a lil' longer then it would be disasterous for Kakashi also he could get a hit for poison injection but that 'll only happen when they are figuring out each other........

 

[Princermb]

Tough decision but I think Kakashi would win with extreme difficulty. Kakashi is well versed in all forms of ninjutsu (long range, mid range and short range), he is fast and is brilliant at taijutsu.

 

[naruto kyuubi]

kakshi can kamui them

 

[DigitalMonster]

After Hiruko is destroyed, Sandaime Kazekage uses Satetsu and destroys Kakashi.

One shot of Kamui isn't enough. Especially considering the most he'll do with it is warp a part of the Satetsu, which won't help him against another Satetsu barrage.

100 Puppets is guarranteed a scratch anyway, so even if Kakashi defeats Sandaime Kazekage, he'll fall to 100 Puppets. Especially with his shitty stamina.

Sasori takes this 8.5/10.

 

[Jae Dong180]

You guys are really underestimating Sasori...

 

[Jae Dong180]

For Whatever reason people seem to underestimate Sasori...

Probably due the fact that he was the first akatsuki killed and that it was by Sakura and a old granny... This is with the antidote and him letting himself get killed.

-Sasori was the stronger between him and Deidara.
-He killed the STRONGEST Kazekage ever and turned him into a weapon of his
-He has numerous of subordinates under his control INCLUDING Kabuto before Orochimaru removed it.
-A scratch of his poison and you are dead.
-A bunch of hidden and secret attacks and probably more puppets we haven't even seen


I don't consider Kakashi on Kage level quite yet and you guys are picking him to easily take out the guy that took out the strongest Kazekage ever??

Let's give credit where credit is due if Sasori wasn't the first to die because he faced the perfect combo against him then we might realize how powerful he really was.

 

[DigitalMonster]

For Whatever reason people seem to underestimate Sasori...

Correct

Probably due the fact that he was the first akatsuki killed and that it was by Sakura and a old granny... This is with the

Incorrect.technically,he got defeated by 14 things(including 10 puppets and 'father and mother') and he wasn't even trying to kill.he chose to die.

-Sasori was the stronger between him and Deidara.

Correct.

-He killed the STRONGEST Kazekage ever and turned him into a weapon of his

Correct

-He has numerous of subordinates under his control INCLUDING Kabuto before Orochimaru removed it.

Correct.

-A scratch of his poison and you are dead.

Correct.(not really,but almost really,)you got three days

-A bunch of hidden and secret attacks and probably more puppets we haven't even seen

Correct.

I don't consider Kakashi on Kage level quite yet and you guys are picking him to easily take out the guy that took out the strongest Kazekage ever??

Correct.you are encouraged to use this point everytime you post on this thread.

 

[Itachi Namikaze]

There is no need to pinpoint Sasori's heart, if its for first and last option then he would simply warp whole of hiruko puppet in another dimension.
And simply put if the fight is quick as it will be coz they know about each other then Kakashi wins, no need of overrated statement BUT if it drags long, I mean if Sasori could drag the fight a lil' longer then it would be disasterous for Kakashi also he could get a hit for poison injection but that 'll only happen when they are figuring out each other........

Just so you know I am pretty sure Kamui doesn't do interdimensions. I think it just transports it withing Naruto's world. So it would only be a draw then and the battle would just commence again once they had found each other. That is why Deidara was able to get his arm back after it had been sucked in by Kamui.

 

[Jae Dong180]

Kakashi is not kage level.....he is close but is not...Sasori is...
Who was the last S-rank shinobi Kakashi was able to beat by himself?

He was not even able to take down Zabuza by himself and you guys are thinking just because he has sharingan and kumui he wins automatically?

I don't think Kakashi would be able to beat any of the current kages or any akatsuki members 1 on 1...Maybe he can beat Hidan if he knows about his blood ritual and maybe Konan.

I put Sasori on the same level as Kakuzu (the same guy that nearly killed Kakashi numerous times, but then Kakashi got saved). Sasori is the strongest warrior to ever come out of the sand...EVER, but wait Kakashi has sharingan he wins cuz he has kumui?

When Sasori was partners with Orochimaru they didn't get along too well. So Sasori used Kabuto as a spy...Honestly if they could have they probably would have tried to kill each other, but are quite evenly matched...Now as I recall Orochimaru was significantly stronger then Kakashi and even Kakashi admitted this.

Seriously, if Kisame was the first to die and Sasori did not die until Kisame did then I predict Sasori would have more fan boys. I remember when Kisame was one of the only akatsuki members left people predicted him to be super strong just because he was still "alive" he must be among the strongest of akatsuki.

This isn't DBZ anymore it doesnt go the weakest get killed earlier then the strongest last. If this was the case then Pain and Itachi would be among the weaker members of akatsuki and we know this isn't true.

Kakashi isn't even the strongest currently in the leaf village (Tsunade, Naruto, Gai-even,
Jman, 3rd Hokage, Orochimaru, Danzou were stronger too if they were still alive.) I'm not even sure if Kakashi is even that much stronger then Yamato.... HE IS NOT ON KAGE LEVEL and if he was he would be AMONG THE WEAKEST there ever was.

yet... now he can beat the STRONGEST EVER to come out of the sand village; not just the sand village basically the whole desert nation. Sasori was stronger then Gara, his father, 3rd kazekage and all before him. This is a insult to the sand village if Kakashi can beat their greatest ever.

When Kakashi and Naruto was chasing Diedara....honestly if Diedara had enough clay left (he used most of it on Gara) he could have just used the C3 or C4 micro bombs to just blow up Kakashi. Yes, he has lightning element and sharingan, but Kakashi is NOT STRONG AS SASKUE. He would die in a fight to Diedara who pushed Saskue all out.

Kakashi easily gets beaten by Kakazu as well....Basicaly had team 10 on his side and still would have been killed if he wasn't saved twice (1 where Shika tricked Hidan; and other where Naruto came in)

Pain took out Kakashi pretty easily too... (Basically one of the only times Kakashi fought a S-rank 1v1) I don't even remember what happend during that fight...it was pretty fast...

The whole point of this is Kakashi is not as strong as this thread is making him out to be...Personally I'm a bit offended that the strongest EVER to come out of the sand is predicted to lose to Kakashi.

 

[Ghostofthewind]

For Whatever reason people seem to underestimate Sasori...

Probably due the fact that he was the first akatsuki killed and that it was by Sakura and a old granny... This is with the antidote and him letting himself get killed.

-Sasori was the stronger between him and Deidara.
-He killed the STRONGEST Kazekage ever and turned him into a weapon of his
-He has numerous of subordinates under his control INCLUDING Kabuto before Orochimaru removed it.
-A scratch of his poison and you are dead.
-A bunch of hidden and secret attacks and probably more puppets we haven't even seen


I don't consider Kakashi on Kage level quite yet and you guys are picking him to easily take out the guy that took out the strongest Kazekage ever??

Let's give credit where credit is due if Sasori wasn't the first to die because he faced the perfect combo against him then we might realize how powerful he really was.

You can't count what you don't know. If you're going to say Sasori could win with things we don't know he has then Kakashi has 971 techniques we haven't seen. I'm willing to bet that's all of the techniques we've seen in the series and then some. Heck, Kakashi has rasengan that he never uses, there's no telling what else he has.

If anyone is underrating anyone, Masahi Kishimoto is underrating Kakashi. He's made Naruto and others look stronger to advance the story. Chakra limit? Is there really a Chakra limit? Everytime someone is supposed to be out, they magically have more (except when Kakashi died.. lol).

So let me get this straight, Sakura and an old lady can take Sasori but Kakashi who is much faster, stronger, smarter and really probably just as experienced (graduate at 5, chuunin at 6, Jonin at 13, was a hero of the 3rd ninja war, ANBU, 1000 techniques), whose father killed Sasori's parents can't beat Sasori?

How many times has Kakashi been hit and didn't mean to get hit? Twice that I've seen. Twice. He goes on S-ranked missions alone. ALONE.

 

[Ghostofthewind]

No, it's a good and builds reputation.

Thanks

 

[Jae Dong180]

You can't count what you don't know. If you're going to say Sasori could win with things we don't know he has then Kakashi has 971 techniques we haven't seen. I'm willing to bet that's all of the techniques we've seen in the series and then some. Heck, Kakashi has rasengan that he never uses, there's no telling what else he has.


If anyone is underrating anyone, Masahi Kishimoto is underrating Kakashi. He's made Naruto and others look stronger to advance the story. Chakra limit? Is there really a Chakra limit? Everytime someone is supposed to be out, they magically have more (except when Kakashi died.. lol).


So let me get this straight, Sakura and an old lady can take Sasori but Kakashi who is much faster, stronger, smarter and really probably just as experienced (graduate at 5, chuunin at 6, Jonin at 13, was a hero of the 3rd ninja war, ANBU, 1000 techniques), whose father killed Sasori's parents can't beat Sasori?

How many times has Kakashi been hit and didn't mean to get hit? Twice that I've seen. Twice. He goes on S-ranked missions alone. ALONE.

In response to all your points:
1.Someone already made a thread about this, but Kakashi chooses not to use rasengan because it's not his fighting style and his version is weak and incomplete. I'm sure Kakashi probably has a whole bunch of super strong jutsu he's hiding especially since he was so close to being dead a few times (Kakazu 2x before he was saved and Pain). Don't you think he would have used his trump card already if he was in that much danger? Wheres Sasori on the hand, my friend, openly said he had about 200 or so human puppets... This is a fact.

2.Kishimoto isn't underrating him. People are overrating him. Kakashi is not Kage level enough said. He is as strong as Gai..if that...

3.Does Kakashi have the poison's antidote? Does Kakashi know puppet movement and weaknesses as well as Chiyo did? Does Kakashi have the brute strength to dismantle a puppet with a punch?

Listen, she isn't just a old granny but also legendary in her own rights. She was well known enough for Kabuto to revive her. And another thing being old doesn't mean your weak. Look at 3rd Hokage, Danzou, That super short kage(forget his name), Kakuzu, Madara, I'm probably missing some more. You let her looks decieve you. She is a super master at puppets and medicine.

Kakashi's father, if he did kill Sasori's parents means nothing. Sasori's parents were just average shinobi's at best where Sasori defeated the strongest Kazekage ever and made him his toy. Sasori is the GREATEST shinbo to EVER come out the desert.

4.Not sure what this really means, but I can't recall the last S-ranked shinobi Kakashi was able to beat 1 on 1. Can you? I can only recall him getting saved or killed.

5.You think Sasori can't go on S-ranked missions alone? Killing the strongest kazekage ever would probably qualify as a S-ranked mission. You think Kakashi could do that or kill any kages for that matter?

You talk about Kishimoto underrating Kakashi, but if you went and asked him yourself he'd tell you Sasori was stronger then Kakashi.

 

[Ghostofthewind]

You have a lot of false information in here. I'm going to start from the bottom as it is easiest for me to read up while I'm writing this.

Kakashi has shown only three elements in the manga, wind is the only one he hasn't shown in either the anime or manga.

I don't remember Kakashi ever opening up more than 1 gate, show me proof where it says he can open up more. (I'm sure he can but you just pulled 3 out of nowhere)

Rasengan is not in any way considered wind release. Wherever you got that from is wrong.

The rest is just speculation on how the battle would turn out and I disagree with you but I can't say you are wrong about it since that is just an opinion. But you are wrong about the aforementioned facts.

3 in the manga, the rest in the anime. I didn't say just manga so I wasn't wrong at all. Naruto.wiki says Rasengan is wind release. Still, the point stands: Kakashi can use many elements, at least 4.

Kakashi watched Rock Lee open 3 gates at the Chuunin exams, I didn't just pull it from nowhere. If you're sure he can then why say I was incorrect?

I'm not impressed with words like "aforementioned." I am impressed with anyone that can use exegesis. It doesn't seem like I had "a lot" wrong. If I didn't know better I'd say you just picked out a few small things because you disagree on the outcome. I know better though.

 

[Ghostofthewind]

In response to all your points:
1.Someone already made a thread about this, but Kakashi chooses not to use rasengan because it's not his fighting style and his version is weak and incomplete. I'm sure Kakashi probably has a whole bunch of super strong jutsu he's hiding especially since he was so close to being dead a few times (Kakazu 2x before he was saved and Pain). Don't you think he would have used his trump card already if he was in that much danger? Wheres Sasori on the hand, my friend, openly said he had about 200 or so human puppets... This is a fact.

2.Kishimoto isn't underrating him. People are overrating him. Kakashi is not Kage level enough said. He is as strong as Gai..if that...

3.Does Kakashi have the poison's antidote? Does Kakashi know puppet movement and weaknesses as well as Chiyo did? Does Kakashi have the brute strength to dismantle a puppet with a punch?

Listen, she isn't just a old granny but also legendary in her own rights. She was well known enough for Kabuto to revive her. And another thing being old doesn't mean your weak. Look at 3rd Hokage, Danzou, That super short kage(forget his name), Kakuzu, Madara, I'm probably missing some more. You let her looks decieve you. She is a super master at puppets and medicine.

Kakashi's father, if he did kill Sasori's parents means nothing. Sasori's parents were just average shinobi's at best where Sasori defeated the strongest Kazekage ever and made him his toy. Sasori is the GREATEST shinbo to EVER come out the desert.

4.Not sure what this really means, but I can't recall the last S-ranked shinobi Kakashi was able to beat 1 on 1. Can you? I can only recall him getting saved or killed.

5.You think Sasori can't go on S-ranked missions alone? Killing the strongest kazekage ever would probably qualify as a S-ranked mission. You think Kakashi could do that or kill any kages for that matter?

You talk about Kishimoto underrating Kakashi, but if you went and asked him yourself he'd tell you Sasori was stronger then Kakashi.

1 don't miss-quote me.
2 Read what I said, don't read into what I said.
I never said Sasori couldn't do S-ranked missions alone, I said Kakashi could.
The White Fang killed Sasori's parents, trust me it's said in a flash back.

You've speculated a lot. If you don't know all of Kakashi's techniques you can't say what he doesn't have. You have reason to believe he doesn't have better techniques but you don't have proof. Correlation doesn't equal causation.

Didn't the 3rd die because he was too old to beat Orochimaru? No one knows how Madara has lived so long, Danzo was experimented on by Orochimaru, had a forbidden technique and still died fighting a much younger Sasuke, Kakuzu had four hearts that he stole from other ninja. None of the people you mentioned have a body anything like Chiyo's, except the one that died because he was old.

3 Don't call me friend when you're not friendly.

4 Show me an interview where Kishimoto tells us Sasori is stronger.

 

[Ghostofthewind]

After Hiruko is destroyed, Sandaime Kazekage uses Satetsu and destroys Kakashi.

One shot of Kamui isn't enough. Especially considering the most he'll do with it is warp a part of the Satetsu, which won't help him against another Satetsu barrage.

100 Puppets is guarranteed a scratch anyway, so even if Kakashi defeats Sandaime Kazekage, he'll fall to 100 Puppets. Especially with his shitty stamina.

Sasori takes this 8.5/10.

A half victory isn't a victory. Kakashi wouldn't get pass the 100 puppets. Agreed.

 

[Jae Dong180]

1 don't miss-quote me.
2 Read what I said, don't read into what I said.
I never said Sasori couldn't do S-ranked missions alone, I said Kakashi could.
The White Fang killed Sasori's parents, trust me it's said in a flash back.

You've speculated a lot. If you don't know all of Kakashi's techniques you can't say what he doesn't have. You have reason to believe he doesn't have better techniques but you don't have proof. Correlation doesn't equal causation.

Didn't the 3rd die because he was too old to beat Orochimaru? No one knows how Madara has lived so long, Danzo was experimented on by Orochimaru and had a forbidden technique, Kakuzu had four hearts. None of the people you mentioned have a body anything like Chiyo's, except the one that died because he was old.

3 Don't call me friend when you're not friendly.

4 Show me an interview where Kishimoto tells us Sasori is stronger.

My bad, if I misquoted you. I am new to this site.
Who do you think Kishimoto would tell you is stronger?
Kakashi is not kage level.
Sasori is.
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