[VS] Sasori Vs. Itachi / Sasori Vs. Minato

[Masked man]

Of course, Sasori solos, but I have a few questions.

1. Gaara's sand is pretty fast and gives him automatic defence, so he could block Amaterasu easily. But sand of 3rd Kazekage controls Sasori.. and is he able to notice that Sasuke wants to use Amaterasu?

2. You said sand bullets can go trough the gaps of Susano'o. But I think that chakra in gaps is able to stop it..

 

[Shura]

Of course, Sasori solos, but I have a few questions.

1. Gaara's sand is pretty fast and gives him automatic defence, so he could block Amaterasu easily. But sand of 3rd Kazekage controls Sasori.. and is he able to notice that Sasuke wants to use Amaterasu?

2. You said sand bullets can go trough the gaps of Susano'o. But I think that chakra in gaps is able to stop it..

1. Hmm. Well, Sasori is faster and smarter than Gaara. We know that. Sasori's Iron Sand could break the sound wall so Sasori should be able to counter it.
2. Even if it defends Itachi from the bullets, the Iron Sand will fall to the ground/beneath Susano'o and from there Sasori could control to kill Itachi.

 

[khaydz5]

This guy right here really needs to get his facts straight.

Anyone who's faster and as agile as chiyo can evade all of his poisoneous attacks, simply put, almost the entire NV.
Sasori is easily one of the weakest akatsuki member, do I have to remind you he got destroyed by Chiyo and Sakura? Would any other akatsuki member lose to these two except for Zetsu? Nope.

lol chiyo and sakura got hit with his poisoned weapons, they'er just lucky they got antidote.
doesn't matter if your as fast as A or B, with 100 puppets/iron sand one way or another you will get scratched eventually.

now tell me how many ninja in narutoverse has THIS antidote?

 

[Shura]

lol chiyo and sakura got hit with his poisoned weapons, they'er just lucky they got antidote.
doesn't matter if your as fast as A or B, with 100 puppets/iron sand one way or another you will get scratched eventually.

now tell me how many ninja in narutoverse has THIS antidote?

Yes. People just don't seem to understand that against someone of Sasori's level almost everyone will get either scratched or they will inhale the poison fog.

 

[AGoodBoy]

so tell me how does yata mirror BLOCK poison mist?

you telling me yata mirror will make a vacuum for itachi not to inhale anything? lol that will suffocate itachi to death.




this guy right here really needs to reread manga.

majority of your list will be dead in minutes without any antidote against sasori's poison attacks.

ALL of his weapons have poison, one scratch and a non medical ninja is a goner.

Susano'o's chakra inheritantly blocks all chakra based attacks. In either case, he wi( just hold his breath and walk out of the gas like sakura tried to do... Sasori can't hold down itachi like he did sakura. Totsuka would slash all the puppet arms while he runs away. And don't even bother saying he cant move and use susano'o because that's a desperate move.

Itachi is a powerhouse. Ultimate defence, kenjutsu, ninjutsu, genjutsu. Sasori won't last long enough to drain his stamina.

Now stop ignoring my question. What happens when they destroy kazekage puppet? Don't say they can't because I'm asking what if. Can't is a desperate answer.

 

[- Їиfєяио -]

fail thread

sasori loses to itachi , minato ( not sure ) , kisame , obito , nagato and many more ........​

 

[Shura]

Susano'o's chakra inheritantly blocks all chakra based attacks. In either case, he wi( just hold his breath and walk out of the gas like sakura tried to do... Sasori can't hold down itachi like he did sakura. Totsuka would slash all the puppet arms while he runs away. And don't even bother saying he cant move and use susano'o because that's a desperate move.

Itachi is a powerhouse. Ultimate defence, kenjutsu, ninjutsu, genjutsu. Sasori won't last long enough to drain his stamina.

Now stop ignoring my question. What happens when they destroy kazekage puppet? Don't say they can't because I'm asking what if. Can't is a desperate answer.

Can't is an answer. Sasori won't send his Third Kazekage to battle him directly. Sasori will just use Iron Sand Unleash. Althought it won't penetrate Susano'o due to Yata Mirror, Susano'o won't be able to move because of it's size and Iron Sand Unleash. It will lock Itachi and his Susano'o in one place. And if Itachi lowers his Susano'o Sasori will scratch him with Iron Sand and it's over. So Sasori either waits for Itachi to run out of chakra or to lower his Susano'o.

 

[Shura]

fail thread

sasori loses to itachi , minato ( not sure ) , kisame , obito , nagato and many more ........​

No just no.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Can't is an answer. Sasori won't send his Third Kazekage to battle him directly. Sasori will just use Iron Sand Unleash. Althought it won't penetrate Susano'o due to Yata Mirror, Susano'o won't be able to move because of it's size and Iron Sand Unleash. It will lock Itachi and his Susano'o in one place. And if Itachi lowers his Susano'o Sasori will scratch him with Iron Sand and it's over. So Sasori either waits for Itachi to run out of chakra or to lower his Susano'o.

no, can't is. "Sasori can't get past yata". Kazekage was destroyed with a single punch.
Swing from totsuka, rasengan, fireball jutsu, taijutsu, water blast from toad, punch from susano'o, amaterasu can all destroy it. A feint can kill it (like sakura did). Want to know the truth? You realise sasori is useless in this fight without kazekage. Infact, this isn't sasori vs minato/itachi. It's kazekage vs minato/itachi. Have a good day, sasori loses.

Everything else you listed is bullshit. Sasuno won't be able to move...? What? itachi ran from sasuke with ribcage susano'o. Sasori can't even get past rib cage susano'o. Gaara's sand and ay's kick couldn't get past ribcage susano'o. sasori would need ironsand inside susano'o to even hit itachi. That's impossible if susano'o is already up. Itachi doesn't need to drop susano'o ever. He can just tier it down. A punch from susano'o is all it takes to brush that iron side away. Sasori won't get a chance to wait for itachi to run out of chakra, because the truth is he'd be on defence the entire time.


Iron sand bullets - yata tank
Iron sand objects - susano'o punch flings it away.

Sasori has to manipulate the puppet to do w.e he wants and, no, he can't fly on the iron sand/use sand orb just because gaara can. You need to know how to do jutsu to be able to do jutsu. So, what, sasori instantly knows how to use iron sand eye too? Bullshit. stop extending gaara's moves. Next, you'll say that sasori puts iron sand armor around kazekage puppet. Sasori gets raped by susano'o, totsuka, etc.

Oh, one last thing. You assumed itachi doesn't know about poison right? Well, let me give you a fact, then. Sasori doesn't know itachi has yata/totsuka. Both zetsu and orochimaru(who studies everyone) didn't know. Sasori has no way in hell of knowing this. Itachi runs of sasori.

Minato is the only debate in this thread, and even then. Sasori can't even hit him.

 

[Shura]

no, can't is. "Sasori can't get past yata". Kazekage was destroyed with a single punch.
Swing from totsuka, rasengan, fireball jutsu, taijutsu, water blast from toad, punch from susano'o, amaterasu can all destroy it. A feint can kill it (like sakura did). Want to know the truth? You realise sasori is useless in this fight without kazekage. Infact, this isn't sasori vs minato/itachi. It's kazekage vs minato/itachi. Have a good day, sasori loses.

Everything else you listed is bullshit. Sasuno won't be able to move...? What? itachi ran from sasuke with ribcage susano'o. Sasori can't even get past rib cage susano'o. Gaara's sand and ay's kick couldn't get past ribcage susano'o. sasori would need ironsand inside susano'o to even hit itachi. That's impossible if susano'o is already up. Itachi doesn't need to drop susano'o ever. He can just tier it down. A punch from susano'o is all it takes to brush that iron side away. Sasori won't get a chance to wait for itachi to run out of chakra, because the truth is he'd be on defence the entire time.


Iron sand bullets - yata tank
Iron sand objects - susano'o punch flings it away.

Sasori has to manipulate the puppet to do w.e he wants and, no, he can't fly on the iron sand/use sand orb just because gaara can. You need to know how to do jutsu to be able to do jutsu. So, what, sasori instantly knows how to use iron sand eye too? Bullshit. stop extending gaara's moves. Next, you'll say that sasori puts iron sand armor around kazekage puppet. Sasori gets raped by susano'o, totsuka, etc.

Oh, one last thing. You assumed itachi doesn't know about poison right? Well, let me give you a fact, then. Sasori doesn't know itachi has yata/totsuka. Both zetsu and orochimaru(who studies everyone) didn't know. Sasori has no way in hell of knowing this. Itachi runs of sasori.

Minato is the only debate in this thread, and even then. Sasori can't even hit him.

I just had to stop and read this about 5 times before I realized I wasn't imagining your stupid points. Well what did I expect, this is coming from a guy who said Darui > Kabuto W/ edo tensei.

 

[AGoodBoy]

I just had to stop and read this about 5 times before I realized I wasn't imagining your stupid points. Well what did I expect, this is coming from a guy who said Darui > Kabuto W/ edo tensei.

Ah, so when you're out of counters you make shit up. Good good. Don't remember saying this, but good to know that you can't defend your point. Good to know that you understand that sasori is useless as soon as kazekage puppet is destroyed. Well this thread is done now.

 

[Shura]

Ah, so when you're out of counters you make shit up. Good good. Don't remember saying this, but good to know that you can't defend your point. Good to know that you understand that sasori is useless as soon as kazekage puppet is destroyed. Well this thread is done now.

Numbers told me everything.

 

[Optimistic]

Kidgamer and the guy with the green text shat on this thread already.

 

[AGoodBoy]

Numbers told me everything.

then numbers lied to you because i've actually never said that. good on him though.

 

[khaydz5]

Susano'o's chakra inheritantly blocks all chakra based attacks. In either case, he wi( just hold his breath and walk out of the gas like sakura tried to do... Sasori can't hold down itachi like he did sakura. Totsuka would slash all the puppet arms while he runs away. And don't even bother saying he cant move and use susano'o because that's a desperate move.

Itachi is a powerhouse. Ultimate defence, kenjutsu, ninjutsu, genjutsu. Sasori won't last long enough to drain his stamina.

Now stop ignoring my question. What happens when they destroy kazekage puppet? Don't say they can't because I'm asking what if. Can't is a desperate answer.

lol proof that it can block such attack? i bet you're one of the guys that believe yata mirror can also block gravity attacks like shinra tensei and yata mirror.

lol sakura survived the poison attacks BECAUSE she has the antidote.

do I really need to answer your question? I thought its obvious, red secret 100 puppet will kill itachi in minutes. as I have said, poison mist is the solution against susanoo, he can force itachi to back out inside susanoo and land a fatal scratch.

again, one scratch from any of sasori's attack and battle is over.

sasuke manage to land a hit against itachi with just a simple rigid shuriken, itachi's reflexes are not so great because of his sickness fact.

 

[AGoodBoy]

lol proof that it can block such attack? i bet you're one of the guys that believe yata mirror can also block gravity attacks like shinra tensei and yata mirror.

lol sakura survived the poison attacks BECAUSE she has the antidote.

do I really need to answer your question? I thought its obvious, red secret 100 puppet will kill itachi in minutes. as I have said, poison mist is the solution against susanoo, he can force itachi to back out inside susanoo and land a fatal scratch.

again, one scratch from any of sasori's attack and battle is over.

sasuke manage to land a hit against itachi with just a simple rigid shuriken, itachi's reflexes are not so great because of his sickness fact.

Firstly, I mentioned susano'o not yata. Susano'o is a defence against all chakra based attacks. It's can be broken, unlike yata. Sasuke sat inside acid smog with susano'o up. Do you want me to get the scan showing that the mist only got in after it started to burn through susano'o? Do you even know how to read? Zetsu explained yata... It blocks all attacks. How should i know whether it can block shinra tensei? shinra tensei doesn't exactly hit susano'o, it's more of an invisible force. That's not exactly physical. Because I disproved your theory doesn't mean you need to launch a personal attack to try boost your self esteem. But, Re-read the manga and you'll get all your proof.

Never mentioned how sakura survived, but cool. The fact is, sakura is slow compared to itachi and has no ultimate defence which iron sand/all those poison coated weapons definitely won't get through. Itachi can't be poisoned if he's not hit/hurt. That's even assuming sasori gets a chance to summon kazekage/his puppets. He starts in hiruko afterall and needs to summon those puppets before he can use them. Then he needs to make kazekage release iron sand before he can even use that. Within all that time sasori is dead.
Itachi doesn't need to back out of susano'o ever. He can move in susano'o. Red secret puppets wouldn't hit for a damn. The fact is. Every counter, every attack, About everything posted in this thread revolves around kazekage. The only thing for sasori in this thread is immunity to genjutsu and poison; poison which you need to be held in or you could hold your breath and walk out. The poison gas didn't exactly injure sakura.

So, let me get this straight. To argue your point, you use itachi at his weakest? That says alot about what you think of sasori, really. You can't even match him to a healthy itachi. Good job. sasori beats sick, dying itachi. Oh, wait, correction, sickness would still beat itachi then.

Itachi > Sasori.

 

[khaydz5]

Firstly, I mentioned susano'o not yata. Susano'o is a defence against all chakra based attacks. It's can be broken, unlike yata. Sasuke sat inside acid smog with susano'o up. Do you want me to get the scan showing that the mist only got in after it started to burn through susano'o? Do you even know how to read? Zetsu explained yata... It blocks all attacks. How should i know whether it can block shinra tensei? shinra tensei doesn't exactly hit susano'o, it's more of an invisible force. That's not exactly physical. Because I disproved your theory doesn't mean you need to launch a personal attack to try boost your self esteem. But, Re-read the manga and you'll get all your proof.

Never mentioned how sakura survived, but cool. The fact is, sakura is slow compared to itachi and has no ultimate defence which iron sand/all those poison coated weapons definitely won't get through. Itachi can't be poisoned if he's not hit/hurt. That's even assuming sasori gets a chance to summon kazekage/his puppets. He starts in hiruko afterall and needs to summon those puppets before he can use them. Then he needs to make kazekage release iron sand before he can even use that. Within all that time sasori is dead.
Itachi doesn't need to back out of susano'o ever. He can move in susano'o. Red secret puppets wouldn't hit for a damn. The fact is. Every counter, every attack, About everything posted in this thread revolves around kazekage. The only thing for sasori in this thread is immunity to genjutsu and poison; poison which you need to be held in or you could hold your breath and walk out. The poison gas didn't exactly injure sakura.

So, let me get this straight. To argue your point, you use itachi at his weakest? That says alot about what you think of sasori, really. You can't even match him to a healthy itachi. Good job. sasori beats sick, dying itachi. Oh, wait, correction, sickness would still beat itachi then.

Itachi > Sasori.

lol first of, give me a scan of itachi fighting healthy? we all base our arguments shown in the manga. In this manga itachi is sick the first time he was introduced, we never saw how a healthy itachi fight, we dont even know if he already have MS that time.

If yata mirror cant defend against it definitely not susanoo.

I challenge you to bring the page where mizukage used acid, it actually goes through inside the ribcage and burned sasuke's skin. both sasuke's skin and ribcage are melting. this is acid, a mist same attribute as poison mist. fact is susanoo can't defend against this attacks it will go through susanoo otherwise how would they breathe inside if air can't even penetrate? logic man, is needed.

it doesnt matter if he is way faster than sakura or not, sakura got a scratch since from the beginning, she was able to survive just because she have an antidote. itachi wont ahve susanoo active the whole fight, his poor chakra reserve just wont allow him. giving sasori chance to land a fatal scratch.

lol he can summon all at once if he wants to. that's how he choose to fight he can start by summoning 3rd kazekage+99 puppets+ sasori puppet. this way itachi will have no chance of survival.

itachi was never shown capable of moving fast while inside full armor susanoo. in ribcage susanoo sure he can but that has a very minimal defense. I bet iron sand can destroy that ribcage.

 

[Curse Mark]

Zetsu also said Itachi was invincible but he died 1 chapter later, you fail.

Sasori lost to 2 fodders
Deidara lost to Hebi Sasuke

Sasori is one of the weakest akatsuki member, deal with it.

There's a difference between Zetsu giving Itachi some hype and someone admitting that they'd lose. Like when Naruto admitted he needed more than SM to beat MS sasuke

 

[Icelerate]

For the milionth time.

Minato touching Sasori means he can seal him, or tag him. No defence can handle 100 rasengans.

Sasori has 100+ puppets so what makes you think he'll tag or seal the right one. Minato doesn't have the chakra reserves to use 100 rasengans. Lol at your fan fiction.

Fanboy.. all the characters on my list would destroy Sasori.



Who writes the plot again? Oh that's right it's Kishi, Sasori got defeated by Chiyo and Sakura, whether you like it or not.

Going by your logic, Hidan is fodder because he lost to Shikamaru.

OT: I agree Sasori beats Minato high difficulty but Itachi beats Sasori mid-high difficulty.

Sasori's main trump card is the fact that he can make Minato's FTG kunai nigh useless because he can use magnetic properties of iron sand to pull them away. Also, Minato won't know which puppet contains Sasori's heart so he has no way of knowing which one to attack. Also, Minato lacks wide area of effect attacks that can destroy multiple puppets at once so he won't be able to deal with Sasori's puppet army. Furthermore, Sasori's iron sand defence should tank any attacks Minato can use.. at least until we see more from him anyway. Sasori should also be able to outlast Minato since being a human puppet means he won't get tired.

Minato could still put up a good fight since it will be extremely difficult for Sasori to land a hit on him because Minato can teleport wherever he places an FTG tag, such as the ground. His army of boss toads could also help him destroy quite a few puppets but their attacks can be tanked by iron sand. Moreover, those giant boss summons are prone to getting poisoned and killed by iron sand and poison gas because of their size.

Itachi beats Sasori because he can spawn black flames wherever he looks. Unless Sasori can blind Itachi or escape from his eyesight, amaterasu will definitely burn his puppets. Afterwards, those flames will spread and envelop more and more of Sasori's puppets which will drastically reduce Sasori's arsenal ensuring his fire power steadily weakens as the fight prolongs. Itachi's sharingan allows him to see chakra emanating from Sasori's heart so Itachi will know that fighting all the puppets is a waste of time and go straight for the kill. With bunshin feints, stealth tactics and nigh instantaneous attacks, Itachi should be able to catch Sasori off guard and destroy the heart.

Sasori has decent changes though since Itachi's stamina isn't the greatest so forcing him to camp inside susanoo would screw Itachi over. Sasori can do this by surrounding Itachi with iron sand which would force Itachi to erect susanoo. Itachi will probably just slash away with his sword though but if Sasori can somehow lock susanoo's movements, it is checkmate for Itachi. If poison gas can seep through susanoo, Sasori may very well have another way of defeating Itachi.

 

[Obito3631]

Sasori has 100+ puppets so what makes you think he'll tag or seal the right one. Minato doesn't have the chakra reserves to use 100 rasengans. Lol at your fan fiction.

Going by your logic, Hidan is fodder because he lost to Shikamaru.

OT: I agree Sasori beats Minato high difficulty but Itachi beats Sasori mid-high difficulty.

Sasori's main trump card is the fact that he can make Minato's FTG kunai nigh useless because he can use magnetic properties of iron sand to pull them away. Also, Minato won't know which puppet contains Sasori's heart so he has no way of knowing which one to attack. Also, Minato lacks wide area of effect attacks that can destroy multiple puppets at once so he won't be able to deal with Sasori's puppet army. Furthermore, Sasori's iron sand defence should tank any attacks Minato can use.. at least until we see more from him anyway. Sasori should also be able to outlast Minato since being a human puppet means he won't get tired.

Minato could still put up a good fight since it will be extremely difficult for Sasori to land a hit on him because Minato can teleport wherever he places an FTG tag, such as the ground. His army of boss toads could also help him destroy quite a few puppets but their attacks can be tanked by iron sand. Moreover, those giant boss summons are prone to getting poisoned and killed by iron sand and poison gas because of their size.

Itachi beats Sasori because he can spawn black flames wherever he looks. Unless Sasori can blind Itachi or escape from his eyesight, amaterasu will definitely burn his puppets. Afterwards, those flames will spread and envelop more and more of Sasori's puppets which will drastically reduce Sasori's arsenal ensuring his fire power steadily weakens as the fight prolongs. Itachi's sharingan allows him to see chakra emanating from Sasori's heart so Itachi will know that fighting all the puppets is a waste of time and go straight for the kill. With bunshin feints, stealth tactics and nigh instantaneous attacks, Itachi should be able to catch Sasori off guard and destroy the heart.

Sasori has decent changes though since Itachi's stamina isn't the greatest so forcing him to camp inside susanoo would screw Itachi over. Sasori can do this by surrounding Itachi with iron sand which would force Itachi to erect susanoo. Itachi will probably just slash away with his sword though but if Sasori can somehow lock susanoo's movements, it is checkmate for Itachi. If poison gas can seep through susanoo, Sasori may very well have another way of defeating Itachi.

That's not my logic, these were two completely different and incomparable scenarios... almost anyone would lose if they were lured nto a paper bomb trap. Obito would have died if he didn't have Izanagi against Konan.