[VS] Sasori Vs. Itachi / Sasori Vs. Minato

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This not a bashing nor a troll thread. Please do not post comments like ''You mad lol'' or ''Didn't Read''. This thread is about why I think Sasori can beat both Itachi and Minato individually and why he could or should be in Top 10. Also, all credit does not go to only me. It goes to Owarij, Negative Knight, Penguin2640 and DrProof because I will be listing some tactics they listed.


Akasuna no Sasori VS Minato Namikaze

How Sasori counters FTG and S/T Barrier: To use this techniques, Minato used special marked kunais. With the 3rd Kazekage's magnetism, Sasori can control any metallic weapon he wishes to. Including kunai. Sasori can either put the kunais somewhere where they would be useless or he can destroy them. Althought it wouldn't completely make Minato's FTG useless since he can put marks on the terrain, it would unable Minato to activate the S/T Barrier since it needs a marked kunai to activate.

Minato using a Kunai to activate S/T Barrier.

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2nd counter: Sasori's flame throwers can release dense Fire Jutsu which have the abillity to melt kunai. With them Sasori can melt Minato's kunai.

3rd counter:
After losing his kunai, Minato will probably begin placing the markings on the terrain, however Sasori can counter this by covering the markings with his Iron Sand or if he needed to, he can destroy the battlefield.

4th counter: By stepping on an Iron Sand cube, Sasori can fly up. Because of that Minato's Jutsu won't be able to reach him. Combine this with the previous three counters and you'll see that the possibility of Minato using FTG against Sasori is minium.


How Sasori counters Rasengan: Sasori can envelope himself in a full Iron Sand Prison just like Gaara. It was shown that Chidori can somewhat pierce Gaara's sand, but Chidori is a technique meant for piercing unlike Rasengan. And Iron Sand can withstand much more than normal sand. If Minato by any chance tries to barrage him with Rasengans, Sasori could suddenly spike up his Iron Sand prison.

2nd counter: Like I said before, Sasori can fly up and get out of Minato's range.


How Sasori counters Foodcart Destroyer and Frog summonings: While in the air, Sasori can kill the frogs with his Iron Sand. It would pierce the frog's skin and even poison them. The attack will surely land since the frogs are too big. He can do that while he is on the ground also.

Sasori attacking with Iron Sand (If you think these won't kill the frogs, well I don't know what to say to you then).

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After Sasori counters all of Minato's techniques, he's pretty much done for.



Akasuna no Sasori Vs. Itachi Uchiha​

How Sasori counters Fire and Water Jutsu: This doesn't need much explaining. Sasori can counter this with his Iron Sand. Either making a wall or a shield.


How Sasori counters Tsukuyomi and other Genjutsu: Sasori could possibly be the only person in Narutoverse that is truly immune to Genjutsu since he has no brain and only a heart. To drag someone into a Genjutsu, the target has to have a brain, but doesn't have one. Now some of you may ask ''How would he think then?'', well it's the same as how Hidan can talk even after his head has been sliced off. It's fiction, things like this are possible.


How Sasori counters Amaterasu: Sasori can defend himself from Amaterasu just like Gaara did, by shedding his Iron Sand.
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2nd counter: Sasori can envelope himself into a full Iron Sand Prison and since he doesn't need to breathe, this won't be a problem for him.

3rd counter: If Amaterasu somehow lands, Sasori can change his body by making his heart go into an another puppet. And he has exactly 296 puppets to use for this.




How Sasori counters Susano'o: Sasori can make the pre used Iron Sand beneath Itachi suddenly spike up and kill Itachi.

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2nd counter:
While Itachi is in his ribcage stage Susano'o, Sasori could make the Iron Sand bullets go throught the gaps of Susano'o's bones. Plus, the bullets are small and pretty fast, and Sasori needs only one scratch to win.
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3rd counter: Sasori can make his Iron Sand attack Itachi constantly from each side. Althought I agree that it won't be able to pierce throught Susano'o due to Yata Mirror it would make Itachi to remain on the defensive. Itachi isn't able to keep Susano'o up for long due to his stamina. Sasori can just wait up in the air while Itachi's chakra reserves fall.

How Sasori counters Yasaka Magatama:
It has been shown that Gaara can protect himself from this technique with regular sand, so Sasori should be able to protect himself with Iron Sand.
 

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I cant see sasori beating minato but i agree he possibly beats itachi although your ****ers to susunoo are just a tiny bit far fetched how would the sand Get Under .. and actually im pretty sure the yata mirror might cancel out the underground weakness of the susunoo ..
 

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I cant see sasori beating minato but i agree he possibly beats itachi although your ****ers to susunoo are just a tiny bit far fetched how would the sand Get Under .. and actually im pretty sure the yata mirror might cancel out the underground weakness of the susunoo ..
Sasori could attack with Iron Sand and make it fall to the ground around Itachi. The moment he takes a step, Sasori would spike up the Iron Sand. I can see Sasori beating both Minato and Itachi individually.
 

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No, he isn't beating Itachi.

Amaterasu
1. Gaara blocked Enton with his sand not an Amaterasu which spawns where the user is looking. He can't block it.
2. Sasori can't react to Amaterasu as A needed V2 level speed to do so. Since he can't react he can't block it.
3. Switching bodies could possibly work though, depending on how long it takes, but if he uses it on him after his puppets are dealt with then its over.

Susanoo
1. So Itachi is going to step in Iron Powder that is clearly visible to him? Yeah right. That makes this counter null as it requires Itachi to be standing in the sand. This wouldn't even work on a V3 and up Susanoo as Yata Mirror would block it.

2. Attacks don't slip through the gaps of Susanoo's bones otherwise this attack would have hit Madara.

Ribcage easily tanks that attack.

3. Itachi can simply ignore it as Susanoo would tank it for him. His stamina isn't issue here. People talk about how he dies from Susanoo usage after a few minutes but forget that he used a Full Susanoo after having a full on fight with Sasuke. Sasori being in the air doesn't really matter as Totsuka has already shown the power to extend.

Yasaka Magatama

1. Wrong.


Each Magatama broke right through the sand, while Iron Sand may be able to block it, saying since Gaara's sand did it (even though it didn't) as justification is flawed.

Also you seem to be assuming Sasori can control his Iron Sand exactly like Gaara can control normal sand.
 
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No, he isn't beating Itachi.

Amaterasu
1. Gaara blocked Enton with his sand not an Amaterasu which spawns where the user is looking. He can't block it.
2. Sasori can't react to Amaterasu as A needed V2 level speed to do so. Since he can't react he can't block it.
3. Switching bodies could possibly work though, depending on how long it takes, but if he uses it on him after his puppets are dealt with then its over.

Susanoo
1. So Itachi is going to step in Iron Powder that is clearly visible to him? Yeah right. That makes this counter null as it requires Itachi to be standing in the sand. This wouldn't even work on a V3 and up Susanoo as Yata Mirror would block it.

2. Attacks don't slip through the gaps of Susanoo's bones otherwise this attack would have hit Madara.

Ribcage easily tanks that attack.

3. Itachi can simply ignore it as Susanoo would tank it for him. His stamina isn't issue here. People talk about how he dies from Susanoo usage after a few minutes but forget that he used a Full Susanoo after having a full on fight with Sasuke. Sasori being in the air doesn't really matter as Totsuka has already shown the power to extend.

Yasaka Magatama

1. Wrong.


Each Magatama broke right through the sand, while Iron Sand may be able to block it, saying since Gaara's sand did it (even though it didn't) as justification is flawed.

Also you seem to be assuming Sasori can control his Iron Sand exactly like Gaara can control normal sand.
Amaterasu
1. You do know that Enton is a better version of Amaterasu, right?
2. Gaara could react to Enton which is a better version of Amaterasu (it's basically a nature style of Amaterasu or something like that.). Sasori can react.
3. It switches fast. Sasori has 298 puppets. Even after he destroys one puppet, Sasori could possibly take him by surprise since Itachi will assume he is dead.
Susano'o
1,3. He'll step near it probably. Sasori can fly out of Totsuka's reach, he can fly up as high as he wants. Even if Itachi wants to pierce him with Totsuka he needs to pierce him throught the heart since that's where Sasori's chakra reserves are. Itachi wouldn't know this. Plus Itachi has to aim for Sasori in the air and Sasori won't just look back instead of avoiding. It's a fact that Itachi's stamina is low.
2. That maybe true, but I believe A manged to attack throught the bone gaps against Sasuke.

Yasaka
1. Iron Sand would most likely be enough to defend Sasori against this.
 

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Iron Sand can go under ground and hit Itachi from there.
Go read up on Susanoo before debating any further.

That tactic isn't feasible at all.

-Proof he can control it while it is underground?
-V3 Susanoo and up would block with Yata Mirror
-He can simply dodge it (If it were even feasible) when he is using V1 or V2 Susanoo's.
 

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Go read up on Susanoo before debating any further.

That tactic isn't feasible at all.

-Proof he can control it while it is underground?
-V3 Susanoo and up would block with Yata Mirror
-He can simply dodge it (If it were even feasible) when he is using V1 or V2 Susanoo's.
Itachi can't protect himself from beneath. Sasori can slip the Iron Sand beneath Susano'o and spike it up. One scratch and gg.
 

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Itachi would know about Sasori due to both being in the Akatsuki, he would start with MS on to be able to see attacks with ease, and sasori is not that fast so Itachi should be able to dodge his attacks, uses Susano'o, Totsuka blade right to Sasori's jaw, considering he didn't show feats of being able to dodge it..
 

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Amaterasu
1. You do know that Enton is a better version of Amaterasu, right?
2. Gaara could react to Enton which is a better version of Amaterasu (it's basically a nature style of Amaterasu or something like that.). Sasori can react.
3. It switches fast. Sasori has 298 puppets. Even after he destroys one puppet, Sasori could possibly take him by surprise since Itachi will assume he is dead.
1.Wrong. Enton is Amaterasu being manipulated into another form. They have different properties and are better at different things. Amaterasu has already shown to be faster so there is no debating this point.
2.Wrong again. Amaterasu spawns where the user is looking. Enton travels to the target Enton is slower. When Sasori is as fast as A or is a sensor then we can talk about him reacting to Amaterasu.
3. If you really think someone of Itachi's intelligence would underestimate Sasori like that then you have been reading the wrong manga. Not to mention Susanoo can be activated in less then a second. He isn't taking anyone by surprise.

Susano'o1,3. He'll step near it probably. Sasori can fly out of Totsuka's reach, he can fly up as high as he wants. Even if Itachi wants to pierce him with Totsuka he needs to pierce him throught the heart since that's where Sasori's chakra reserves are. Itachi wouldn't know this. Plus Itachi has to aim for Sasori in the air and Sasori won't just look back instead of avoiding. It's a fact that Itachi's stamina is low.
2. That maybe true, but I believe A manged to attack throught the bone gaps against Sasuke.
Stepping near it isn't going to work and he isn't going to step on it either.
No he isn't flying faster than Totsuka can extend. He doesn't even need to pierce him. Its a sword, all he needs to do is cut him with it with wont seal him but it will destroy the body he is currently in.




Low stamina=/= Dying when using his tech for a few minutes.
2. A broke through the bones and hit Sasuke.

Itachi can't protect himself from beneath. Sasori can slip the Iron Sand beneath Susano'o and spike it up. One scratch and gg.
Gaara had to use the sand already at Madara's feet to make contact with him. He can't slip it under Susanoo and make contact with Itachi, what is so hard to understand about this simple concept.

Also Susanoo can be activated in 1/1000th of a second. It doesn't matter if he doesn't start in Susanoo because he can simply call it when he needs it.
 
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Itachi would know about Sasori due to both being in the Akatsuki, he would start with MS on to be able to see attacks with ease, and sasori is not that fast so Itachi should be able to dodge his attacks, uses Susano'o, Totsuka blade right to Sasori's jaw, considering he didn't show feats of being able to dodge it..
Assumptions. No one has ever saw Sasori out of Hiruko in the Akatsuki. Plus Sasori has a 4.5 speed in databooks. Not slow....
 
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