Sasori & Orochimaru vs. Itachi & Kisame

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Oro knows bout the sword and the sword doesn't hav any speed feats all we seen it do is seal hydra oro (witch is collosal so u cant miss) but he thought it was reg sword cuz it was cutting the heads off reg b4 it sealed him and he got cocky said u think this is what it takes to beat me plus it takes long time to b sealed cuz oro was able to create whole speech and send a snake out b4 being fully sealed I think now he knows so he will dodge

And it manage to seal a brain control (by kabuto) and cripple nagato

It shows no speed feats as far as I'm concerned untill I c it seal somebody with reasonable speed
itachi could've sealed him straight away. All he needs to do is pierce. The reason why he didn't seal straight away was because he was cutting not piercing
 

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Itachi and Kisame mid-high difficulty. Itachi already owned oro once. Both teams have knowledge of their abilities. Kisame is a monster against Sasori or Oro. Itachi is also a suiton user and Kisame abilities just add to that. We already know what Itachi is about.
 

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Oro has never been much of a competition for itachi and all their encounters itachi has been at the disadvantage and has still won with relative ease. So ill bypass that and go to kisame vs sasori.


Kisame always starts his fight by creating water. Sasori in his scorpion form would de destroyed in no time and in fact it would be better for sasori to get out of his scorpion form because that form in water do not go well.

Anyway as i said sasori's scorpion from would be destroyed in no time and kisame doesnt need to come in close to do this. Any of his water attacks, after he has produced his mass of water would destroy. With the scorpion for destroyed, sasori loses what makes him almost invincible. He regains the weakness of a puppet master;
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After the scorpion form is destroyed sasori has to use his chakra strings to control his other puppets, but also he himself is open to attacks;
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No different to kankuro and with shino's bug's was able to take advantage of a puppeteers weakness. With his bugs, he was able to consume kankuro's CHAKRA strings ;
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Kisame can attack from long range with his suiton jutsu's and destroy some of sasori's many puppets and with a puppeteers weakness being close combat, but also kisame having the ability to absorb chakra with samahada or on his own, he can eat the chakra strings of sasori;

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Team 2 with mid to high diff
 

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sasori wouldn't be able to use his puppets in kisame's massive bubble of water
I didn't say he could, but alright
Itachi solos
I would be willing to say that you're just someone who fails to comprehend the goings on of the manga, however hte Itachi signature leads me to believe you're a fanboy who's incapable of utilizing logic as long as your favorite character wins.

So basically, "That's bullshit."
 

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I would be willing to say that you're just someone who fails to comprehend the goings on of the manga, however hte Itachi signature leads me to believe you're a fanboy who's incapable of utilizing logic as long as your favorite character wins.

So basically, "That's bullshit."
this is someone that claims oro was never beaten by itachi with genjutsu.
despite the databook stating the exact opposite.

no right to call any one fanboy here.
 

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itachi could've sealed him straight away. All he needs to do is pierce. The reason why he didn't seal straight away was because he was cutting not piercing
When it did pierce him oro was still able to do entire speech about him being a lord and immortal and was able to de attached a snake and send it away it took hella long for it to seal it did pierce the hydra belly and oro was like this is all you think it's gonna take to beat me

My point is te sword hasn't sealed anything remotely fast all it has done is sealed a big ass hydra oro and a crippled mind controlled nagato

Let it seal someone wit the speed of A or even Kakashi

To me the sword is huge so oro knowing what it does this time around can dodge it and can tell sasori also
 

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this is someone that claims oro was never beaten by itachi with genjutsu.
despite the databook stating the exact opposite.

no right to call any one fanboy here.
To me it was never a full blown fight oro tried to steal itachi's body itachi deflected it witt MS genjutsu so what if he cut oro hand off we've seen oro spit himself up shed skin and literally get cut in half and reattach his body bac in one piece (4 tails naruto vs oro) point is it was never a fight all oro did was try to steal his body not try to fight him yes oro did say itachi is stronger then him but honestly I Dnt c by much and neither does the data book cuz there's only a .5 separating the 2
So I wanna c full fight
 

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Everybody saying itachi can solo both oro and sasori is in denial data book between oro and itachi itachi beats him only by .5 Thts not by much plus itachi had to used his most powerful tech do seal oro he couldn't even kill him I wanna c a fight between the 2
 

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People saying Itachi or Kisame would solo are quite ridiculous. As Oro or Sasori would defeat Kisame solely and would give Itachi a tough time.

Also, Orochimaru wouldn't be foolish enough to just use simple attacks on Itachi, let alone fall for genjutsu easily. As a matter as fact I don't see he couldn't use snakes as Kabuto has. While Itachi may have mentioned how Oro's technique are unless against him, uchiha offensive attacks have been easily counter by his techniques. As snakes have to used to reject genjutsu, Sasuke used his technique to avoid amaterasu.

Sasori and Kisame are pretty much even, that's if they pair up. They only problem would be Kisame's water doom, which Sasori could use assistance from Oro's summons (snakes) or even the 2nd Hokage.
 

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if people are saying kisame or Itachi solo then they must be blind, def, and just plain retarded. Oro and Sasori got this high diff. Sasori is immune to genjutsu since he has no nervous system and I'd love to see Kisame dodge Iron Sand Unleash. Oro has access to Edo tensei so that's two more fighters, the first 2 hokage added into the mix. It's basically 4 on 2 and I don't think Itachi can handle that once Kisame has been dealt with.
 
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if people are saying kisame or Itachi solo then they must be blind, def, and just plain retarded. Oro and Sasori got this high diff. Sasori is immune to genjutsu since he has no nervous system and I'd love to see Kisame dodge Iron Sand Unleash. Oro has access to Edo tensei so that's two more fighters, the first 2 hokage added into the mix. It's basically 4 on 2 and I don't think Itachi can handle that once Kisame has been dealt with.
Exactly! People fail to analyze the match-up and it's conditions and make fast assumptions
 

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oro isnt stupid enough to look in itachis eyes a second time.
kuchiyose: edo tensei and hashi decides he wants a piece of those s-class criminals. no fuda tag needed.

Tsukuyomi and amaterasu instant kill
oro and sasori are the two people that WONT work on. sasori transfers himself to another body, and oro grows a new one out of his mouth. genjutsu cant affect puppets, and oro wont look into itachis eyes.

We've seen that orochimaru's weak spot is obviously Genjutsu... What a Coincidence, he's fighting Itachi, the best genjutsu user
yet he was never defeated by it on-panel in part 1/2.

said he conquered a nation alone yet he gets killed by Chiyo + Sakura
chiyo is kage level and could also conquer a small country. sakura had the antidote and strength plus chiyo was controlling her. plus his weakness of close combats negated by a circular iron sand defence

Itachi would drag away orochimaru and defeat him using yata mirror, totsuka sworda, amaterasu and if all that fails just use izanami and troll him.
oro knows who he is and accepts it. so izanamis useless. totsuka wont work a second time. amaterasu fails due to oro spitting out a new body

Itachi already owned oro once
kuchiyose edo tensei? also itachis never faced true form oro who can release poison via his blood. one sniff of that and its over. the fact oros faced him before is an advantage. he wont make new mistakes.

Oro has never been much of a competition for itachi
oro never wanted itachi dead

all their encounters itachi has been at the disadvantage and has still won with relative ease.'
theyve only fought twice. round 1 - oro barely did any jutsus at all it seems. round 2 - oro was weakened from being in sasukes body for ages and thought he could tank susano sword since he didnt know it was totsuka
 

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oro isnt stupid enough to look in itachis eyes a second time.
kuchiyose: edo tensei and hashi decides he wants a piece of those s-class criminals. no fuda tag needed.

oro and sasori are the two people that WONT work on. sasori transfers himself to another body, and oro grows a new one out of his mouth. genjutsu cant affect puppets, and oro wont look into itachis eyes.

yet he was never defeated by it on-panel in part 1/2.

chiyo is kage level and could also conquer a small country. sakura had the antidote and strength plus chiyo was controlling her. plus his weakness of close combats negated by a circular iron sand defence

oro knows who he is and accepts it. so izanamis useless. totsuka wont work a second time. amaterasu fails due to oro spitting out a new body

kuchiyose edo tensei? also itachis never faced true form oro who can release poison via his blood. one sniff of that and its over. the fact oros faced him before is an advantage. he wont make new mistakes.

oro never wanted itachi dead

theyve only fought twice. round 1 - oro barely did any jutsus at all it seems. round 2 - oro was weakened from being in sasukes body for ages and thought he could tank susano sword since he didnt know it was totsuka
agree
 

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Sasori and Orochimaru high difficulty. Let's start with Sasori for one--One scratch and you're dead. One scratch means literally nothing to most shinobi and when Kisame or Itachi start off scratched one time it might not seem like a big deal until they're paralyzed a moment later and either Orochimaru or Sasori can easily kill them from that point. Kisame no doubt will be falling for this, he'll get touched once, Itachi it's arguable assuming he doesn't enter Susano'o the second the fight starts.

Plus, Sasori can just exploit Susano'o's weakness like the kages at the war did, Susano'o doesn't protect from below so all it takes is getting the sand underneath him which obviously isn't hard to do. And along with 100 puppets, a big enough AoE where neither of them should be able to get around he poses a huge threat. Not too mention, if Kisame uses large scale water techniques or even uses his water dome the poison could and/or would spread in the dome like Killer Bee's ink.

Second is Orochimaru who's backing up Sasori, this goes without saying. It'd make it far easier for Sasori to scratch them with their poison and Orochimaru is incredibly hax and powerful himself able to go pretty far in this fight against the 2 alone. Since Sasori has Orochimaru backing him up in the first place the fight becomes much more easy for Sasori to pull it off again for the reason that Orochimaru alone poses a threat, with Sasori there's not a doubt about it. Manda, Snake Summon spam, Oral Rebirth, Leech all Creation, Kusanagi, Triple Rashomon, etc. etc. etc.

Ok, I would have said inb4 genjutsu but it's obvious it would be brought up. Genjutsu won't do shit, Orochimaru never fell under genjutsu in a serious situation where he was fighting to kill, plus he has a 5 in genjutsu, guy was not trying to fight and trying to take Itachi's body, for ****s sake. Nobody understands this. And Sasori is a puppet with no nervous system, no idea how they're going to use Tsukuyomi on a heart or use that while there's 10,000 snakes, 100 puppets and a shitload of poisonous Iron Sand on the field to where they can't be touched 1 time or they're done for.
Rep for actually thinking
 
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