Sasori and Deidara vs The Gokage.

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

I'm just going to stop you at bold because you apparently don't even know what manga you read.

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Sasuke defused every single bomb in his body with one chidori attack. Notice how the electricity, channeling through his body, diffused every bomb on contact? Exactly. Ay's entire body is surrounded by

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Bomb + contact with lightning = no explosion.
I'm sure you can understand that math and the fact that the bombs need to pass a raiton-cloak-that-will-defuse-them before it even hits any opening on ay's body to enter his system.
The rest of your post is irrelevant since you can't even get the obvious right, nothing leads me to believe anything else is correct.

>Inb4 sasuke targeted millions of bombs, individually, with chidori.
>inb4 you bring up "i was refering to c0/c1/c2/c3" in an argument about c4

Is it just me or is the base filling up with empty heads?

like a parrot you sing and blabber, but you dont have a clue what youre blabbering about. I have already answered this meaningless argument of yours in my previous post here:

on top of that Ay cant negate an explosion just because he has lightning armoring his ass, on top of that tsunade cant fly, neither can mei, nor Ay, on top of that onoki will be too busy disintigrating the nano bomb up his ass, on top of that hiding their location is too cowardly for 5 vs 2 "not that deidara and sasori dont have their own means of counterattack" on top of that a few of deiaras exploding c4's scattered around will force the little rats out of hiding, on top of that mei cant see the nano bombs she can disolve some randomly but some of them are bound to disintigrate her ass, on top of that the other kages will have the lovely choice between getting blown up, disintigrated or getting melted "by mei's own jutsu" on top of that gaaras sand has failed him before against deidara, on top of that deidara can summon instant explosions rendering ay's speed blitzes useless.

on top of that

lolz

what i mean here is the explosions that are already in progress not the Bombs yet to be exploded "and before you say how can explosions happen if the bombs are disarmed read my post first"


in my first post i mentioned Ay has the advantage being "a raion user" by that i meant exactly what you have obliviously posted here twice so basically i understood you but you did not understand me

sasuke/raikage can use their raiton to disarm and cancel a bomb from exploding, especially bombs placed on their bodies "for instance raikages raiton armor will protect him from any bombs placed on his body and disarm deidaras bombs if come in contact" but what i was talking about was the explosions that do Go off! - once the bomb is already exploded having raiton armor will be of no use - you'll still end up as hamburger

obviously raikage cant disarm every bomb deidara sets no more than sasuke could, his speed might give him a slight edge over sasuke in that area but obviously deidara will resort to fast and widespread explosions not to mention deidara can fly "so could sasuke" raikage on the other hand has shown no sign of flight capability, which gives deidara an edge as Ay will remain more vulnerable to deidaras attacks than the other way around

and I repeat disarming bombs before exploding is one thing, whilst the ones already exploded cant be blocked by raiton alone, and as i said, raikage cant disarm all of them at once.

 

[shelke]

Low Difference for Kages? No way. IF Sasori uses world Model from the get go, and provides enough distraction for Deidara to take to air, then Deidara will be quite lethal. Homing C2 bombs with blast size much more than eight times the size of the gigantic dragon he stood on would decimate Mei and Tsunade for sure. Without Tsunade, Onoki is not prepping the massive Jinton. On his Drgaon, Deidara is quicker than Gaara, whom he defeated easily without using his potentially lethal C2 Clay even. He was a Jin then.

It all depends on the strategy. Most of you over-rate the Kages a lot. Also, Ay negating C4 that go along with the air he breathes is speculation as his Raiton armour isn't Chidori Sasuke ran through his own body - a much more focused Raiton attack. Heck, otherwise, Third Raikage wouldn't resort to further focusing Raiton on his fingers - All, Three, and one for Hell-Stab - if his armour alone can do the job. He had to use his two fingered attack to get through the Doton wall. And as Deidara's attacks are Earth based, there is no way in hell an armour alone is negating it. A highly moot point.

Also, Ae takes quite a LOT of time to Charge to V2. At V1, given the distance, Deidara can easily make a small bird and take to air as the Sand was so close to his face when Gaara jumped him, but he evaded it and made a small Clay bird, and jumped on it in that short span of time. I won't give this to Kages Low Difference at all.

 

[Nattana]

If Gokage take it seriously, neither Sasori nor Deidara will have enough time to even prepare Satetsu/C4. Gokage take this low diff.

 

[genii96]

Kages very low diff

 

[AGoodBoy]

Is it just me or is the base filling up with empty heads?

like a parrot you sing and blabber, but you dont have a clue what youre blabbering about. I have already answered this meaningless argument of yours in my previous post here:


what i mean here is the explosions that are already in progress not the Bombs yet to be exploded "and before you say how can explosions happen if the bombs are disarmed read my post first"


in my first post i mentioned Ay has the advantage being "a raion user" by that i meant exactly what you have obliviously posted here twice so basically i understood you but you did not understand me

sasuke/raikage can use their raiton to disarm and cancel a bomb from exploding, especially bombs placed on their bodies "for instance raikages raiton armor will protect him from any bombs placed on his body and disarm deidaras bombs if come in contact" but what i was talking about was the explosions that do Go off! - once the bomb is already exploded having raiton armor will be of no use - you'll still end up as hamburger

obviously raikage cant disarm every bomb deidara sets no more than sasuke could, his speed might give him a slight edge over sasuke in that area but obviously deidara will resort to fast and widespread explosions not to mention deidara can fly "so could sasuke" raikage on the other hand has shown no sign of flight capability, which gives deidara an edge as Ay will remain more vulnerable to deidaras attacks than the other way around

and I repeat disarming bombs before exploding is one thing, whilst the ones already exploded cant be blocked by raiton alone, and as i said, raikage cant disarm all of them at once.

Bro, I don't even know what you're saying at this point. C4 has to enter the body to be harmful. I was never referring to ay disarming every nanobomb, I was talking about nanobombs being useless against him alone. I never even hinted that ay's raiton armor would protect the other gokage; Hence why i listed viable defences for them.

I like how you confirmed my 'inb4' by implying the use of other C_ attacks when we're discussing C4 killing gokage. Good job. And you're calling someone an air hard? Lol...

>inb4 you try to claim C4 is harmful outside the body
Also, by feats, Ay easily tanks C1, C2, and C4 attacks. C3's destructive capabilities is unknown, but it's manga fact gaara can block it anyway.

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Basically, To sum this up, before you respond again with a text wall.
-> C4 is a bunch of micro bombs which blow up on a cellular level and destroy cells
-> C4 destroys from the inside out
-> C4 detonating outside the body will only destroy air molecules because their explosions are only as big as cells
-> C4 detonating outside the body is point.
-> C4 needs to get past raiton armor to invade Ay's body
-> Raiton deactivates clay bombs.

-> This isn't a discussion about other bombs. Just C4.

Now that i've cleared that up, i'll quickly clear up some others.

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- mei's Area fuuton (if we assume she's on her own, otherwise someone carries her away) instantly melts every bomb that comes into contact because they're just too small. They won't reach near her before they're reduced to nothing (see: The difference in dissolve time of a block of iron and an iron shaving).

- Gaara and onoki can fly themselves out of the range of the explosion which would be the initial reaction. Deid is known for massive explosions. Only a fool will stay near such a massive clay monstrosity. Even onoki stayed several hundred meters (out of c4 range) away from deidara when he sent his rock clone in to 'feel out' deidara (see: Kabuto and Deid vs onoki).

- Never mentioned tsunade. Don't care about her. Someone saves her.

- One jinton on the initial Clay monstrousity vaporizes all nanites.

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needs to blow up before anything even happens. It needs to blow up near them for it to be effective.

- Onoki can offer the entire team flight. Gaara can carry the entire team on sand.

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

Bro, I don't even know what you're saying at this point. C4 has to enter the body to be harmful. I was never referring to ay disarming every nanobomb, I was talking about nanobombs being useless against him alone. I never even hinted that ay's raiton armor would protect the other gokage; Hence why i listed viable defences for them.

I like how you confirmed my 'inb4' by listing other C_ attacks when we're discussing C4 killing gokage. Good job. And you're calling someone an air hard? Lol...

>inb4 you try to claim C4 is harmful outside the body

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Basically, To sum this up, before you respond again with a text wall.
-> C4 is a bunch of micro bombs which blow up on a cellular level and destroy cells
-> C4 destroys from the inside out
-> C4 detonating outside the body will only destroy air molecules because their explosions are only as big as cells
-> C4 detonating outside the body is point.
-> C4 needs to get past raiton armor to invade Ay's body
-> Raiton deactivates clay bombs.

-> This isn't a discussion about other bombs. Just C4.

Now that i've cleared that up, i'll quickly clear up some others.

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- mei's Area fuuton (if we assume she's on her own, otherwise someone carries her away) instantly melts every bomb that comes into contact because they're just too small. They won't reach near her before they're reduced to nothing (see: The difference in dissolve time of a block of iron and an iron shaving).

- Gaara and onoki can fly themselves out of the range of the explosion which would be the initial reaction. Deid is known for massive explosions. Only a fool will stay near such a massive clay monstrosity. Even onoki stayed several hundred meters (out of c4 range) away from deidara when he sent his rock clone in to 'feel out' deidara (see: Kabuto and Deid vs onoki).

- Never mentioned tsunade. Don't care about her. Someone saves her.

- One jinton on the initial Clay monstrousity vaporizes all nanites.

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needs to blow up before anything even happens. It needs to blow up near them for it to be effective.

- Onoki can offer the entire team flight. Gaara can carry the entire team on sand.

you seem to be under the dellusion that we are only talking about c4, what in the hell makes you think deidara will only use c4 while the kages use every jutsu in their arsenal ?!

i should thank you, you give deidara too much credit lol

on another note, this is what i mean with empty heads blabbering like a parrot with no clue what they are actually arguing about, a waste of time for all of us

 

[AGoodBoy]

you seem to be under the dellusion that we are only talking about c4, what in the hell makes you think deidara will only use c4 while the kages use every jutsu in their arsenal ?!

i should thank you, you give deidara too much credit lol

on another note, this is what i mean with empty heads blabbering like a parrot with no clue what they are actually arguing about, a waste of time for all of us

Seeing as this

deidaras exploding c4's will always be relevant lol

ay's lightning wont save him from that, neither did sasugay

Is what sparked the discussion, I was only responding to C4. You then went off on a tangent.

C1, C2 are tanked by ay, dodged by onooki or blocked by gaara. They're still useless anyway, even if you bring them up.

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

Seeing as this

Is what sparked the discussion, I was only responding to C4. You then went off on a tangent.

C1, C2 are tanked by ay, dodged by onooki or blocked by gaara. They're still useless anyway.

deidaras giant explosions cant be tanked by any of the gokage "onoki has the best chance against deidara"

as long as Ay cant fly, he'll be at a great disadvantage

 

[AGoodBoy]

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deidaras giant explosions cant be tanked by any of the gokage "onoki has the best chance against deidara"

as long as Ay cant fly, he'll be at a great disadvantage

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It's already manga canon that gaara can

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dediara's

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Sasuke

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deidara's most powerful (by feats) C2 bomb. Ay's body is a hell of a lot more durable.

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Sasuke outran like 90% of deid's arsenal and he's not even as fast as Ay.

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Deidara could hardly keep up with sasuke's speed. Sasuke can't even

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Oonoki can give everyone flight.

Only person at a disadvantage is Deidara. This is way too easy...

 

[Penguin]

First off, Ei's lightning shield does not negate any bombs Deidara has to offer. But they get raped midd diff max.

 

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It's already manga canon that gaara can

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dediara's

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bomb.

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Sasuke

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deidara's most powerful (by feats) C2 bomb. Ay's body is a hell of a lot more durable.

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Sasuke outran like 90% of deid's arsenal and he's not even as fast as Ay.

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Deidara could hardly keep up with sasuke's speed. Sasuke can't even

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Oonoki can give everyone flight.

Only person at a disadvantage is Deidara. This is way too easy...

i know that already - but that wont do him much good as it messes with hes weight, which means he will be vulnerable in many other ways including ground attacks. That is if he can catch deidara in the air period.

Unless onoki can babysit him the whole time it wont do much good

First off, Ei's lightning shield does not negate any bombs Deidara has to offer. But they get raped midd diff max.

finally, a sensible person.

 

[AGoodBoy]

First off, Ei's lightning shield does not negate any bombs Deidara has to offer. But they get raped midd diff max.

Go read the manga. Raiton disables the bombs upon contact.
The mere fact you say 'bombs' instead of 'explosions' already means you don't know this simple fact.

i know that already - but that wont do him much good as it messes with hes weight, which means he will be vulnerable in many other ways including ground attacks. That is if he can catch deidara in the air period.

Unless onoki can babysit him the whole time it wont do much good

finally, a sensible person.

What? Flight doesn't affect his weight, if anything, he'd get faster (if flight used weightless rock tech). Super aggravated rock is a completely diff tech and the only one that slows you down.

Onoki just needs to touch him and he has flight.

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girl was flying completely on her own, far away from onoki. Onoki doesn't need to 'baby sit' anyone .It's just touch and you have flight.

 

[Penguin]

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Bee doesn't look like he is getting shocked.

Juugo didn't look like he was getting electrocuted when he had a V2 fist inside himself.

And since he rode Onoki like Seabiscuit wearing V2, and Onoki not getting electrocuted, you can deduce that the shroud just increases physical qualities and actually has no electrical qualities.

 

[shelke]

^ Penguin got it right. I already mentioned Third Raikage. Comparing Chidori to Raiton Shroud is not a sound argument at all.

 

[Ψ Veritas Ψ]

Go read the manga. Raiton disables the bombs upon contact.
The mere fact you say 'bombs' instead of 'explosions' already means you don't know this simple fact.


What? Flight doesn't affect his weight, if anything, he'd get faster (if flight used weightless rock tech). Super aggravated rock is a completely diff tech and the only one that slows you down.

Onoki just needs to touch him and he has flight.

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girl was flying completely on her own, far away from onoki. Onoki doesn't need to 'baby sit' anyone .It's just touch and you have flight.

onoki messes with their molecular structure thereby reducing gravity's hold - reason for flight, whichever method he uses for flight, it messes with the general gravitational effect on their bodies meaning they wont be able to move as freely on the ground as they did before, especially without proper training

there is a sideaffect to every jutsu

 

[Penguin]

^ Penguin got it right. I already mentioned Third Raikage. Comparing Chidori to Raiton Shroud is not a sound argument at all.

Thank you Shelke. u.u

 

[Prince Charles]

I actually agree with you guys in regards to Ay's raiton shroud not countering the c4 molecules, there are a lot of people on the base that think it does but it doesnt I won't deny there was a time I was convinced it did but deep down I knew it didnt.

 

[Penguin]

PC, I was like you once.

 

[shelke]

I was like neither of you. This Armour working like Chidori is whack.

@Ψ Veritas Ψ

I apologize for not including you as well. Have a + rep as a consolation.

 

[Prince Charles]

PC, I was like you once.

true dat dog, the idea sounded plausible when i first heard of it but honestly it made no sense.