Saskue vs naruto! Who will win? Why?

[Icelerate]

Base Sasuke>Base Naruto.
MS Sasuke>SM Naruto.
EMS Sasuke>KM Naruto.
BM Naruto>EMS Sasuke.

This is true.

Current Naruto at full power is too much for Sasuke. He has the speed to escape the sharingan eye sight so amaterasu will be relatively ineffective. Even if it hits, Naruto can just reduce the size of the cloak to slip away and peel off the black flames. Speed, shadow clone spam and chakra arms allow him to easily counter susanoo arrows and physical melee susanoo attacks.

A giant bijuu dama can be prepped as his clones pressure Sasuke with spam and then Sasuke dies.

Naruto low-mid difficulty.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

As of right now Naruto with just RM stomps Sasuke. BMs not required.

By the time they fight they should be equal or something with skew the battle to be more even.

Base Sasuke>Base Naruto.
MS Sasuke>SM Naruto.
EMS Sasuke>KM Naruto.
BM Naruto>EMS Sasuke.

IMO its

Base Naruto > Base Sasuke (w/3T); Naruto's Taijutsu skills have gotten much better, possibly better than Sasuke's because Naruto is trained in a martial art while Sasuke isn't. Naruto also has much more firepower while in Base. Not to mention if we bring in Kuchiyose then Naruto's wins in that department as well.

SM Naruto (Pain Arc) = MS Sasuke; I'll wait for your thread so that we dont have it out here, but I believe Pain Arc Naruto is dead equal with MS Sasuke.

RM Naruto >>> EMS Sasuke; By a considerable margin. Even more so now that he has Fuuton: Chou Oodama Rasenshruiken

BM Naruto >>> EMS Sasuke; I didn't add any more ">" signs so I dont look like a ragining fanboy, though everyone should agree the diffrence between Naruto and Sasuke right now is like the diffrence between the land and the heavens.

 

[KidGamer65]

As of right now Naruto with just RM stomps Sasuke. BMs not required.

By the time they fight they should be equal or something with skew the battle to be more even.


IMO its

Base Naruto > Base Sasuke (w/3T); Naruto's Taijutsu skills have gotten much better, possibly better than Sasuke's because Naruto is trained in a martial art while Sasuke isn't. Naruto also has much more firepower while in Base. Not to mention if we bring in Kuchiyose then Naruto's wins in that department as well.

SM Naruto (Pain Arc) = MS Sasuke; I'll wait for your thread so that we dont have it out here, but I believe Pain Arc Naruto is dead equal with MS Sasuke.

RM Naruto >>> EMS Sasuke; By a considerable margin. Even more so now that he has Fuuton: Chou Oodama Rasenshruiken

BM Naruto >>> EMS Sasuke; I didn't add any more ">" signs so I dont look like a ragining fanboy, though everyone should agree the diffrence between Naruto and Sasuke right now is like the diffrence between the land and the heavens.

I strongly disagree with the RM Naruto>>>EMS Sasuke bit. His strongest offensive move is Chou Oodama FRS, and Sasuke has a solid counter for that technique as we saw chapters ago. (Enton)

 

[DemonicAvenger]

I strongly disagree with the RM Naruto>>>EMS Sasuke bit. His strongest offensive move is Chou Oodama FRS, and Sasuke has a solid counter for that technique as we saw chapters ago. (Enton)

Thats correct, but because of Kage Bunshin Naruto could use it from outside of Sasuke's LoS.

PS: I think I cracked the case on why Danzo was able to cut through Susano'O

 

[Optimistic]

IMO its

Base Naruto > Base Sasuke (w/3T); Naruto's Taijutsu skills have gotten much better, possibly better than Sasuke's because Naruto is trained in a martial art while Sasuke isn't.

Sasuke's kenjutsu > Naruto's taijutsu.His sharingan is more than enough to avoid all of Naruto's punches and kicks.When Sasuke had his 2T he took on more than one Naruto clone with a unknown martial arts style(not really good in the martial arts name department).

Naruto also has much more firepower while in Base. Not to mention if we bring in Kuchiyose then Naruto's wins in that department as well.

Fire power is irrelevant if it can't hit, Sasuke has shown the ability to dodge any liner attacks.Any incoming Rasengan can be countered similar to how Kakashi countered Naruto's rasengan and Sasuke chidori on the rooftops.Also, Sasuke can summon Aoda or any other Snakes that can keep all of the toad summonings at bay.

SM Naruto (Pain Arc) = MS Sasuke; I'll wait for your thread so that we dont have it out here, but I believe Pain Arc Naruto is dead equal with MS Sasuke.

Current Sm has more of a chance but even that version can't dodge amaterasu nor can he get through Sasuke's complete Susanoo.Amaterasu kills Naruto.

RM Naruto >>> EMS Sasuke; By a considerable margin. Even more so now that he has Fuuton: Chou Oodama Rasenshruiken

That move can be countered by enton, many people have debated about who would win between Rm naruto and ems Sasuke.I think Sasuke wins for the sheer fact that Cho oodama Rasenshurikan takes longer to produce than a normal one thus giving Sasuke enough time to hit him with a magatama or amaterasu.

BM Naruto >>> EMS Sasuke; I didn't add any more ">" signs so I dont look like a ragining fanboy, though everyone should agree the diffrence between Naruto and Sasuke right now is like the diffrence between the land and the heavens.

Bold: So what if someone thinks you're a fanboy.If you can provide arguments for your fav why should it matter?

 

[KidGamer65]

Thats correct, but because of Kage Bunshin Naruto could use it from outside of Sasuke's LoS.

PS: I think I cracked the case on why Danzo was able to cut through Susano'O

Sasuke can cover the area where his Susanoo is with a large ring of flames, similar to how he did here.

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If he does this, any FRS that makes contact with the shield gets turned into a mass of black flames.

He also has an omnidirectional shield he used with his Ribcage Susanoo, all he has to do is make that bigger to cover his V4 Susanoo and any FRS that makes contact with the flames gets eaten up.

And FRS makes a distinct noise anyway so I'm pretty sure he would hear it coming and be able to react even if he fires it from out of his LoS.

Why do you think Danzo was able to do it?

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Sasuke's kenjutsu > Naruto's taijutsu.His sharingan is more than enough to avoid all of Naruto's punches and kicks.When Sasuke had his 2T he took on more than one Naruto clone with a unknown martial arts style(not really good in the martial arts name department).

Naruto has Gama Kumite (I believe thats the name). Sasuke doesn't have a martial art he's just an elegant brawler.

Naruto alone now is enough to match Sasuke in Hand to Hand combat, with Kage Bunshin he can overwelm Sauce.

Fire power is irrelevant if it can't hit, Sasuke has shown the ability to dodge any liner attacks.Any incoming Rasengan can be countered similar to how Kakashi countered Naruto's rasengan and Sasuke chidori on the rooftops.Also, Sasuke can summon Aoda or any other Snakes that can keep all of the toad summonings at bay.

Naruto has already shown that he can attack from multiple directions with Rasengan.

Sasuke using Kakashi's tactic? No way in hell. Big diffrence between Current Naruto and 13 Year old Naruto. Unless you want me to start saying that Naruto blocks Sasuke's chidori the same way Itachi blocked it in part 1.

Current Sm has more of a chance but even that version can't dodge amaterasu nor can he get through Sasuke's complete Susanoo.Amaterasu kills Naruto.

Naruto dodges it with proper distance. Your spawn argument is invalid as many have already proved that it travels.

That move can be countered by enton, many people have debated about who would win between Rm naruto and ems Sasuke.I think Sasuke wins for the sheer fact that Cho oodama Rasenshurikan takes longer to produce than a normal one thus giving Sasuke enough time to hit him with a magatama or amaterasu.

Not when he's fighting off Naruto's Kage Bunshin. If anything RM Naruto without Kage Bunshin is equal to EMS Sasuke when he take chakra branching into condieration. Though 2 is all he needs to seal a win

Bold: So what if someone thinks you're a fanboy.If you can provide arguments for your fav why should it matter?

It was to keep the post looking professional. I could care less what other people think.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Sasuke can cover the area where his Susanoo is with a large ring of flames, similar to how he did here.

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If he does this, any FRS that makes contact with the shield gets turned into a mass of black flames.

He also has an omnidirectional shield he used with his Ribcage Susanoo, all he has to do is make that bigger to cover his V4 Susanoo and any FRS that makes contact with the flames gets eaten up.

And FRS makes a distinct noise anyway so I'm pretty sure he would hear it coming and be able to react even if he fires it from out of his LoS.

Thats when Multiple Senpo: Chou Oodama Rasengan Rendan comes into play (Realisticly, not the fantasy version Naruto did in his head)

Why do you think Danzo was able to do it?

Look at how Susano blocks Danzo's Fuuton here? Granted this version has less cutting power and is much weaker look at whats blocking it? [

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Theres much less armor on the back of Susano'O and we can deduce that the chakra is much thinner. Therfore, the back is Susano'O's weak spot.

 

[Fang King Agito]

Naruto has always been more powerful than sasuke

The only reason sasuke isn't dead is because naruto wants him alive

 

[Optimistic]

Naruto has Gama Kumite (I believe thats the name). Sasuke doesn't have a martial art he's just an elegant brawler.

Thank you for clarifying his taijutsu i thought it was a random martial arts that Kishimoto implemented into his arsenal.
Frog Kumit is a basic martial arts but its only threatening when Sm enhances his strength and range.Frog Kumit only made Naruto's taijutsu average since before his Sm training his taijutsu wasn't even noticeable.

Naruto alone now is enough to match Sasuke in Hand to Hand combat, with Kage Bunshin he can overwelm Sauce.

Naruto cannot overwhelm Lord Sausage mainly because of his 3T.

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couldn't lay a finger on Sasuke even though he was outnumbered.Armed with weapons > basic martial arts by a landslide.

Sasuke using Kakashi's tactic? No way in hell.

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I don't see why Sasuke can't do the same, he has the necessary physical strength to do so as well as the 3T.

Big diffrence between Current Naruto and 13 Year old Naruto. Unless you want me to start saying that Naruto blocks Sasuke's chidori the same way Itachi blocked it in part 1.

You mean the Itachi with amazing reflexes and 3T which makes everything look like the matrix? Don't make me laugh i said earlier that 3T grants the user to avoid liner attacks.

Naruto dodges it with proper distance. Your spawn argument is invalid as many have already proved that it travels.

It doesn't change the fact that he doesn't have the necessary speed nor shunshin feat to dodge amaterasu.Even if it does travel Naruto can't dodge it so your point is invalid.only KCM can dodge amaterasu thanks to his sensing and his ability use shunshin that surpasses Ay's.

Not when he's fighting off Naruto's Kage Bunshin. If anything RM Naruto without Kage Bunshin is equal to EMS Sasuke when he take chakra branching into condieration. Though 2 is all he needs to seal a win

None of his Kage Bunshin can bust through complete susanoo like i said earlier.The only move that can is the CORS which takes a longer time to start up.2 clones is a insult to the young Uchiha he can take the two with mid high diff in my honest opinion.

It was to keep the post looking professional. I could care less what other people think.

Good.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Thank you for clarifying his taijutsu i thought it was a random martial arts that Kishimoto implemented into his arsenal.
Frog Kumit is a basic martial arts but its only threatening when Sm enhances his strength and range.Frog Kumit only made Naruto's taijutsu average since before his Sm training his taijutsu wasn't even noticeable.

Naruto cannot overwhelm Lord Sausage mainly because of his 3T.

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couldn't lay a finger on Sasuke even though he was outnumbered.Armed with weapons > basic martial arts by a landslide.

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I don't see why Sasuke can't do the same, he has the necessary physical strength to do so as well as the 3T.

Big diffrence between Current Naruto and 13 Year old Naruto. Unless you want me to start saying that Naruto blocks Sasuke's chidori the same way Itachi blocked it in part 1. [/FONT]
You mean the Itachi with amazing reflexes and 3T which makes everything look like the matrix? Don't make me laugh i said earlier that 3T grants the user to avoid liner attacks.


It doesn't change the fact that he doesn't have the necessary speed nor shunshin feat to dodge amaterasu.Even if it does travel Naruto can't dodge it so your point is invalid.only KCM can dodge amaterasu thanks to his sensing and his ability use shunshin that surpasses Ay's.



None of his Kage Bunshin can bust through complete susanoo like i said earlier.The only move that can is the CORS which takes a longer time to start up.2 clones is a insult to the young Uchiha he can take the two with mid high diff in my honest opinion.


Good.

I'll try to get you my rebuttal as soon as possible. I though I was gonna have more time but I gotta go pick someone up :/

 

[Optimistic]

I'll try to get you my rebuttal as soon as possible. I though I was gonna have more time but I gotta go pick someone up :/

Very well.I'll wait.

 

[saw2097]

Naruto will win, its the final fight and in Shounen generally the hero wins in the end.

 

[KidGamer65]

Thats when Multiple Senpo: Chou Oodama Rasengan Rendan comes into play (Realisticly, not the fantasy version Naruto did in his head)

I don't see what this is going to do as Naruto needs to get up close to hit Susanoo with Rasengan, which is suicide for his clones as Sasuke can shield himself with Enton.

 

[SasukeUchiha910]

solo king itachi...... win this one

 

[DemonicAvenger]

Thank you for clarifying his taijutsu i thought it was a random martial arts that Kishimoto implemented into his arsenal.
Frog Kumit is a basic martial arts but its only threatening when Sm enhances his strength and range.Frog Kumit only made Naruto's taijutsu average since before his Sm training his taijutsu wasn't even noticeable.

Naruto matched Itachi with ease with his Kumite with the intention of only talking, Who had already bested Sasuke in Taijutsu. Speed and strength would obvious be far less though the skill is still their. Senpo isnt the only time its dangerous, its just the best application.

Naruto cannot overwhelm Lord Sausage mainly because of his 3T.

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couldn't lay a finger on Sasuke even though he was outnumbered.Armed with weapons > basic martial arts by a landslide.

Sasuke was armed as well, nor do the fodders put Sasuke above Naruto as Naruto already easily matched someone that bested Sasuke. Add in Kage Bunshin and Sasuke is overwelmed.

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I don't see why Sasuke can't do the same, he has the necessary physical strength to do so as well as the 3T.

Then why didn't he do it when he clashed with Naruto underneath the bridge of Iron? That requires the user to be far faster, stronger, and skilled than the other, none of which Sasuke has on Naruto other maybe a slight speed advantage. It also would require Sasuke to be under Naruto. No one should dare try that on Naruto.

Sasuke even trying that is quite illogical.

You mean the Itachi with amazing reflexes and 3T which makes everything look like the matrix? Don't make me laugh i said earlier that 3T grants the user to avoid liner attacks.

A simple comparison to show outrageous it is to think Sasuke could do it to Naruto.

It doesn't change the fact that he doesn't have the necessary speed nor shunshin feat to dodge amaterasu.Even if it does travel Naruto can't dodge it so your point is invalid.only KCM can dodge amaterasu thanks to his sensing and his ability use shunshin that surpasses Ay's.

Sasuke dodged it when Itachi had every intent to hit him. SM Naruto can do the same at adequet distance.

None of his Kage Bunshin can bust through complete susanoo like i said earlier.The only move that can is the CORS which takes a longer time to start up.2 clones is a insult to the young Uchiha he can take the two with mid high diff in my honest opinion.

Their speed easily allows them to attack Susano'O from its back with higher variants of Rasengan. 2 Kage Bunshin is more than enough.

I don't see what this is going to do as Naruto needs to get up close to hit Susanoo with Rasengan, which is suicide for his clones as Sasuke can shield himself with Enton.

With their speed it will be easy, even more so if they come in from an aerial angle. The Size of the Rasengan also shields them.

I havn't even mentioned Gama Rinsho yet either, or chakra branching that can bring Sasuke out of Susano'O

PS: Why you no reply to the Susano'O post :c

 

[KidGamer65]

With their speed it will be easy, even more so if they come in from an aerial angle. The Size of the Rasengan also shields them.

I havn't even mentioned Gama Rinsho yet either, or chakra branching that can bring Sasuke out of Susano'O

PS: Why you no reply to the Susano'O post :c

If they come in from an aerial angle, they end up becoming vulnerable to getting shot down by Magatama as they can't maneuver away from them while they are in mid air.

I was about to reply to the Susanoo post, but I guess I forgot, lol. Anyway I agree, that does make sense.

 

[DemonicAvenger]

If they come in from an aerial angle, they end up becoming vulnerable to getting shot down by Magatama as they can't maneuver away from them while they are in mid air.

I was about to reply to the Susanoo post, but I guess I forgot, lol. Anyway I agree, that does make sense.

Sasuke has to look up and intiate the attack. Which I hardly think Sasuke will have time for, on top of that, Susano'O has to complete for that to be an option and due to Susano'O structure, attacking upwards doesn't seem to be in its arsenal.

Either Way, The size of Rasengan still completely shields the Kage Bunshin.

 

[Kagustuchi]

Base Naruto > Base Sasuke
MS Sasuke > Senin Naruto
KM Naruto > EMS Sasuke
BM Naruto > EMS Sasuke

Im not going to try to determine how much each is superior by the more than symbols. I would just like to note that theres is a noticable gap between KM and BM Naruto and EMS Sasuke.

 

[TheEvilOne]

Base Sasuke > Base Naruto
SM Naruto > Base Sasuke
MS Sasuke > SM Naruto
KM Naruto > MS Sasuke
EMS Sasuke >/ = KM Naruto
BM Naruto > EMS Sasuke