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A gimmick is a shtick. Every character bar Sakura had that in their fighting styles. End of discussion.
A what? Lmao, and the undertone of that implies that was a disappointment rather than an eccentricity that stands her out?



I meant Super Strength is generic in media
And Rasengan isn't generic and ripoff of of the Kamehameha? Chidori doesn't remind you of Pikachu? Sharingan is completely original and we haven't seen nothing like it before.


lol What is this BS. Even without the "power up pumping" Naruto and Sasuke, and Kakashi for that matter, destroy her in character development. lmao Sakura stans reaching a new low trying to claim Sasuke and Naruto only have development in power.
The point completely went over your head, didn't it. They still received more power than they did actual development, and as pointed out, the narrative can be narrowed down to what I blatantly conveyed in my latter comment. Naruto's entire character is based on the contrived heroic bravado where he doesn't give up on his friend. Sasuke's is him perennially searching for one thing after another and being an angry dick who can't acknowledge his own feelings. Now tell me at which point does that change until the end? Lmao. Naruto is Goku in every literal sense, his development exists mostly in his power growth, but, surprisingly, people don't get that. They think he's the first character to ever go that far for a friend (actually, he might be), and that there isn't some other intransigent hero who never goes off his path for his entire adventure to his dreams. Goku, Natsu and Ichigo, just to name a few are your unchanging characters that have the same input in character. I can't say for certain whether the same formula is applied to the others, but it appears to be so with them, and that makes Naruto nothing special or unprecedented. Sasuke has some formula to him, with his avenger story, and the outcome of it can be predicted since Naruto swore his oath to bring him back.

Nope, the reason she is slandered, if that's how you want to put it, is because any little development she got was crapped on later by much larger BS on her part.
Make a concrete corroboration to that by use of manga panels from the war arc and onward, and I may concede.



Oh but she didn't. Sorry. Especially when you're trying to use the word "significant". One fight against Sasori and shoe horned relevance in Kaguya's fight in 500 chapters is not what a normal person calls significant.
You see, that's where we lose meaning of what development is. That's why Kakashi would have been a shit character if not for the Sharingan, why Hinata became a pronounced shit character, why Konohamaru is becoming a shit character according to many. The Western view of what development is shallowed to the point of it not existing outside winning fights and having victories on count. It's pretty blatant with the shift in how Konohamaru is being viewed as a character overall, since people just want to see him become a badass. If you really want to get to the point, being more specific, she may lacking in victories as opposed to Naruto and Sasuke as mains, and that, I can agree with based on infallible proof.


This has nothing to do with the fact that Gaiden destroyed her character and then proceeded to grind it to dust. You celebrating what is most likely filler has nothing to do with what I said.
How has it been destroyed when the same side-story churned a positive reaction from fans, especially the animated version in which Sakura has an elaborated fight with Shin? I may be at a loss of words here, because I can't really make an understanding of this besides you just nit-picking and preferring a narrower view to make your statements about the character seem more pragmatic than they really are.



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Kushina would have done it if she was alive and as gifted in strength. Temari would have done it, she smacks Shikadai when he gets her mad, and all mothers essentially, with backbones have the tendency to smack nonsense out of their kids to get them back on the course. Boruto got a psychological one by being kicked out of his home and made to stand in the freezing cold with his father.


That's a solo female? wtf
Lmao... Someone needs something so simple explained to her. Solo female = female that solos. It spells itself out.
 
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I like Sarada due to her learning jutsu and training, without anyone having to tell to train. Sakura on the other hand she didn’t bother to train or learn jutsu other than substitute jutsu. Sasuke tells Sakura to train and learn jutsu instead of obsessing over him, but she doesn’t listen until Sasuke leaves to Orochimaru.

Naruto and Sasuke ask to be trained or train alone, while Sakura refused to train and learn jutsu that is until Sasuke leaves to Orochimaru lair.

So Sarada is way better as she uses elemental jutsu, CES and genjutsu.
 

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Lol I'm not arguing this again when I already disproved your nonsense months ago.
You didn’t disapprove anything sweetie stay pressed. I could easily bring up panels showing Sakura’s development strength-wise because that’s not up for question, her helping her comrades and finally stepping in, her growing to care for the guy she once dismissed as an orphan, her risking her life continuously to help others.

There’s so much that has changed for Sakura since Part 1 but you fail to see it and all you can do is regurgitate the same panels with Sasuke and miss out crucial parts like her becoming a pioneer in medical ninjutsu or her building a sister like bond with Naruto and helping seal Kaguya, everyone on this base knows that your judgement is clouded by this intense dislike.

Imfao and how is wanting a kiss from your own husband fangirling? Anyway, I’m not arguing over this because facts are facts and early Part 2 Sakura had better development than Hinata bye.
 
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A what? Lmao, and the undertone of that implies that was a disappointment rather than an eccentricity that stands her out?
It's both


And Rasengan isn't generic and ripoff of of the Kamehameha? Chidori doesn't remind you of Pikachu? Sharingan is completely original and we haven't seen nothing like it before.
Nope, even if they are similiar, they're different enough and the user's of those techs have other things to offer.

The point completely went over your head, didn't it. They still received more power than they did actual development, and as pointed out, the narrative can be narrowed down to what I blatantly conveyed in my latter comment. Naruto's entire character is based on the contrived heroic bravado where he doesn't give up on his friend. Sasuke's is him perennially searching for one thing after another and being an angry dick who can't acknowledge his own feelings. Now tell me at which point does that change until the end? Lmao. Naruto is Goku in every literal sense, his development exists mostly in his power growth, but, surprisingly, people don't get that. They think he's the first character to ever go that far for a friend (actually, he might be), and that there isn't some other intransigent hero who never goes off his path for his entire adventure to his dreams. Goku, Natsu and Ichigo, just to name a few are your unchanging characters that have the same input in character. I can't say for certain whether the same formula is applied to the others, but it appears to be so with them, and that makes Naruto nothing special or unprecedented. Sasuke has some formula to him, with his avenger story, and the outcome of it can be predicted since Naruto swore his oath to bring him back.
Cool, this doesn't excuse Sakura's horrible writing. I already know Naruto is badly written, but he still has things enjoyable about him, and no, Naruto is not all about power development. His moments with Haku, Zabuza, Hinata, Neji, Gaara, Iruka, Pain, Jiraya, Sasuke, Bolt, Himawari, and so on all attest to how much emotional development and non-power development he has.

When has Sakura ever extracted even 1/4 that kind of emotion from the viewers? During her big forehead flashbacks against Ino when she broke their friendship over a crush, only for INO to be the one to reconnect?

Hence why Naruto's series is successful and hence why Sakura is universally hated. If you can't see the difference between Naruto and Sakura in writing, I can't help you.

Make a concrete corroboration to that by use of manga panels from the war arc and onward, and I may concede.
What happened after she got Byakugo? Got cocky and needed saving, got sidelined immediately, outshined by Tsunade, thinking of Sasuke while fighting, letting her insecurity and emotions dictate her actions, leading to her being in need of saving, etc.

Even in Gaiden, just when you think she has changed, she still has a temper, even worse than before in fact, still is getting saved and sidelined, still lying, and still can't get Sasuke's attention.

You see, that's where we lose meaning of what development is. That's why Kakashi would have been a shit character if not for the Sharingan, why Hinata became a pronounced shit character, why Konohamaru is becoming a shit character according to many. The Western view of what development is shallowed to the point of it not existing outside winning fights and having victories on count. It's pretty blatant with the shift in how Konohamaru is being viewed as a character overall, since people just want to see him become a badass. If you really want to get to the point, being more specific, she may lacking in victories as opposed to Naruto and Sasuke as mains, and that, I can agree with based on infallible proof.
so where is Part 2 Sakura's character development outside of getting CES and YS?

But I do agree that power isn't everything in terms of character development, as I enjoy both Kakashi and Hinata's characters, as you pointed out. But Sakura has neither personal or power development, not substantial enough for someone with her screen time, anyways.

How has it been destroyed when the same side-story churned a positive reaction from fans,
Oh please, as if fan reactions from SS faps means anything in terms of how well the writing is. Like, are you f-ing joking? Seriously? SS stans who wet themselves over forhead touches, passing comments, and subtle eye glances saying Gaiden was good means it's good?


especially the animated version in which Sakura has an elaborated fight with Shin?
Everyone enjoys a well animated fight scene. Has nothing to do with Sakura herself. Next.

I may be at a loss of words here, because I can't really make an understanding of this besides you just nit-picking and preferring a narrower view to make your statements about the character seem more pragmatic than they really are.
This coming from the guy who says people have a shallow view of character development, only caring for power, then always bashing Hinata, a character who's development is primarily emotional. Wowzies. :lol

Kushina would have done it if she was alive and as gifted in strength.
Kushina would have punched the ground had Naruto asked a simple question about his father? Show a scan or stop lying. You Sakura stans are so shameful trying to undermine other characters just to justify Sakura's very clear lunatic tendencies.

Temari would have done it
Show a scan or stop lying.

Boruto got a psychological one by being kicked out of his home and made to stand in the freezing cold with his father.
Show a scan of this or stop lying.

Lmao... Someone needs something so simple explained to her. Solo female = female that solos. It spells itself out
Oh so she's not the first.
 
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You didn’t disapprove anything sweetie stay pressed. I could easily bring up panels showing Sakura’s development strength-wise because that’s not up for question, her helping her comrades and finally stepping in, her growing to care for the guy she once dismissed as an orphan, her risking her life continuously to help others.
Cool.
There’s so much that has changed for Sakura since Part 1 but you fail to see it
Nope, Sakura does have positive character development, but when you combine it with her massive yet useless panel time, in tandem with her FAR greater negative character development, it's hard to notice the good.
and all you can do is regurgitate the same panels with Sasuke
Those are the most important parts of her character. NaruHina > SasuSaku? Right? I'm sure you've said this before, so Hinata > Sakura naturally.

and miss out crucial parts like her becoming a pioneer in medical ninjutsu
First off, you can't become a pioneer in something that has been around for 30 years. Has Sakura even created anything in medical ninjutsu to go claiming she's pioneered anything?

Second, Hinata became a Gentle Fist master and according to Kishimoto himself, "stole the role of heroine" from Sakura. Point #1 where side character Hinata has the same development as main character Sakura with 1/10 the panel time.

or her building a sister like bond with Naruto
And Hinata did the same with Neji. Wow, look at that Point #2 where side character-chan has the same development level as the main heroine.

and helping seal Kaguya,
And Hinata did so with Toneri. Point #3 where side character with 50 chapters = main heroine with 700 chapters.

everyone on this base knows that your judgement is clouded by this intense dislike.
No clouds here fam. Just truth.

Imfao and how is wanting a kiss from your own husband fangirling?
Because she got rejected. Again.
Anyway, I’m not arguing over this because facts are facts and early Part 2 Sakura had better development than Hinata bye.
Hmmm... No.

She ended her relationship with her first and best friend, the person who reached out to her when no one else would, over a boy who has shown no interest in her ever. Ino had to be the one to fix their bond even though Sakura broke it. Even in Part 2, she is still petty and wants to see Sai insult and hurt her so-called "friend's" feelings just because she's salty Sai called her an ugly dog. Ino hasn't even done jack shit to her since day 1, unprovoked.

Meanwhile, Hinata rekindled and strengthened her bond with Hiashi, Neji, and Hanabi, and as said by Hiashi, was, alongside Neji, helping to change the Hyuga Clan, despite the fact that the abuse was primarily, if not completely, from their end of the relationship.

She’s inconsiderate of other people’s feelings and always acts like the victim. Case in point, in Gaiden she acts like Salad is at fault for what went down, calling her silly, when it all could have been avoided if Sakura just talked to her kid instead of destroying the house.

Hinata has empathy in spades. As stated by the databooks and shown in the manga and anime.

She's very shallow and cares only for appearances, as shown by her relations with Sai, Sasuke, and Lee. Even married, she knows nothing of Sasuke emotionally, unlike Hinata with Naruto, she knows nothing of his past, unlike Hinata with Naruto, and she has never once been able to support or be there for Sasuke in his times of need, unlike Hinata with Naruto. Sakura is so shallow that she couldn’t even fully remember if her husband even wore glasses, which is why Salad became questionable about whether or not her own mother is even married to her father.

She lied to Naruto, someone who she knows has been emotionally isolated and abused for years, about loving him just to ease her own guilt. You can say she had good intentions, and yes she did, but to manipulate one's emotions, as shown with Madara doing the same to Obito, is nothing short of vile.

She's arrogant as hell and doesn't know her own limits, as shown when she knocked Kiba, Lee, and Sai out to go kill Sasuke even though they were only trying to help her, and yet ended up failing to kill a blind, tired Sasuke because of her crush.

Sakura kept Karin’s identity completely hidden from Salad for no reason and Karin was the one who helped deliver her when Sakura was giving birth and Karin is the one who supplies Salad the prescription glasses that she uses. Meanwhile, Hinata is more than open about her family's history.

Sakura lies out of her ass to Sasuke by claiming she THOUGHT she made things clear with Salad, despite never telling her why he’s on a mission. There’s literally no reason why Sakura couldn’t tell her that her father wants to make sure no traces of a powerful enemy they had faced exists. Not to mention, based on how much Salad asked Naruto about Sasuke, Sakura evidently didn’t say jackshit about Sasuke’s past self. And Sakura thought she had made things clear for Salad? What a liar.


There is so much more I can pull on Sakura's shit ass development from Gaiden and the War alone, so don't get me started. Sakura in no way is a better written character than Hinata.
 
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lol you can't beat Lady Byakugan when it comes to this.


She has a doctorate (PHD) in indepth Sakura mental studies and critical analysis.


Again Sakura is rated on the web as

Either some of us made a million accounts or people around the world just dislike Sakura.


She had some potential during the early stages of Part 2 but again her main problem is Sasuke. I truly wonder how Sakura would've been if Sasuke never existed.
 
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lol you can't beat Lady Byakugan when it comes to this.


She has a doctorate (PHD) in indepth Sakura mental studies and critical analysis.


Again Sakura is rated on the web as

Either some of us made a million accounts or people around the world just dislike Sakura.


She had some potential during the early stages of Part 2 but again her main problem is Sasuke. I truly wonder how Sakura would've been if Sasuke never existed.
Lmao, that's some overzealous comment, are you trying to hype up someone with years of experience who's struggling with casual insights? I'm just getting started. It might be tedious with manga panels coming into play, but I might be willing. Words alone should do this justice.

You just do your job right snicking in some additional so-called facts and cheer-leading.
 

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Lmao, that's some overzealous comment, are you trying to hype up someone with years of experience who's struggling with casual insights? I'm just getting started. It might be tedious with manga panels coming into play, but I might be willing. Words alone should do this justice.

You just do your job right snicking in some additional so-called facts and cheer-leading.
lol by all means go ahead and read up on Naruto the series in order to have your so called grand counter attack.

By then most of us will already be on with our lives. :lmao:


Ironically when you do read and watch all the material, you will subconsciously realize how illusionary your infatuation of Sakura really was.
 
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lol you can't beat Lady Byakugan when it comes to this.


She has a doctorate (PHD) in indepth Sakura mental studies and critical analysis.


Again Sakura is rated on the web as

Either some of us made a million accounts or people around the world just dislike Sakura.


She had some potential during the early stages of Part 2 but again her main problem is Sasuke. I truly wonder how Sakura would've been if Sasuke never existed.
You gotta love it when Sakura stans use internet, fan made polls to "prove" Salad as being more popular, and hence better, than Bolt.

Yet bring up the fact that Sakura is so hated that even the author heard of it, which as far as I know, hasn't happened with any other popular manga, in where the author hear's of how much a character is hated.

Bring up the fact that Kishimoto is constantly told Hinata is better, the fact that he even damn admitted he wanted to push Hinata as the heroine in an interview, the fact that he later says Hinata stole the heroine role from Sakura, and of course, got her own movie, which proves she's interesting and popular enough for such a risk.

And what will they do? Deny her popularity.
 

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You gotta love it when Sakura stans use internet, fan made polls to "prove" Salad as being more popular, and hence better, than Bolt.

Yet bring up the fact that Sakura is so hated that even the author heard of it, which as far as I know, hasn't happened with any other popular manga, in where the author hear's of how much a character is hated.

Bring up the fact that Kishimoto is constantly told Hinata is better, the fact that he even damn admitted he wanted to push Hinata as the heroine in an interview, the fact that he later says Hinata stole the heroine role from Sakura, and of course, got her own movie, which proves she's interesting and popular enough for such a risk.

And what will they do? Deny her popularity.
We are talking about polls? How about the official ones?

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I need to find the other ones in the middle of the chapters (VIZ volumes) but i remember Hinata ranking #6 in a few of the polls (7 or 8 total) and Sakura being in like.. 12th position? We are talking about +75k submissions per poll.
 

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We are talking about polls? How about the official ones?

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I need to find the other ones in the middle of the chapters (VIZ volumes) but i remember Hinata ranking #6 in a few of the polls (7 or 8 total) and Sakura being in like.. 12th position? We are talking about +75k submissions per poll.
Right, and keep in mind this Part 2 poll was like 200 or so chapters after Hinata's single shining moment at that point being VS Neji, yet she still remain popular all those years of absence. The poll that was released during the Chunnin Exams had her much higher and with a wider gap between her and Sakura
 

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It's both
Lmao, I take you are at a loss for words here and cannot corroborate or make any auxiliary input to substantiate without fucking up. Good choice staying on the safe side.

Nope, even if they are similiar, they're different enough and the user's of those techs have other things to offer.
They're still productively the same, by-products of the same idea, if you will. Even Naruto's KCM is nothing past an attempt at subtle emulation with hope it will go unnoticed. Too bad, we saw it for what it blatantly is, a copy-paste job done well by Kishimoto in order to invigorate the series. Most arsenals in Naruto in fact are copies, which finds us where the point was being emphased. Naruto and Sasuke aren't exempt from the extraordinarie permeating the series. They are just as guilty as Sakura, if not worse, as the more Kishimoto gets inspired with a character, the more copy-paste shit he pumps into it. Luckily for Sakura, she wasn't of tantamount interest and lucked out as a result. But it seems like for some fans, her lacking Pikachu-reminiscent skill-sets and some Dragonball Z cash-milking concept makes her a bland comparison, as you have said many times before.


Cool, this doesn't excuse Sakura's horrible writing. I already know Naruto is badly written, but he still has things enjoyable about him, and no, Naruto is not all about power development. His moments with Haku, Zabuza, Hinata, Neji, Gaara, Iruka, Pain, Jiraya, Sasuke, Bolt, Himawari, and so on all attest to how much emotional development and non-power development he has.
Himawari? You just put her in there because no way could there be development with her that I could call development? Lmao. Talk about trying to elongate facts just to make a point more eye-popping. And Naruto really actually isn't interesting. I.e after he's ascertained to be what you would call, an extremely developing character with almost no noticeable development at second glance due to its inconsequential impact. Naruto staying the same throughout the series makes veritably no difference for how it's just how it should be. He never makes decisions out of which calamity could take place, out of which lives could be put in danger. Everything he does or whatever decision he makes is what you would expect from Goku, even if it might be slightly peculiar to him. It's nonetheless a shoe-fit thing, where he's just filling the characteristics most found in Shounen protagonists. Same for the deuteragonist, Sasuke, but at least you are on the edge of your seat when a moment of decision-making presents itself like when he talks with Hashirama and is left to decide whether he wants to protect Konoha or resume his plans with destroying it. But at the end, he's still very much what we expected him to turn out to be; not a single moment was I not guessing and getting it right with these two, except a few moments I slacked with my guesses. For Sakura, at least I wasn't expecting Byakugou to pop up, or for her to be pivotal to Sasuke's rescue from the desert dimension. She had me guessing, despite there not being some giant Chakra humanoid doing amazing sword slashes and Kurama clones flying around all over the place.

When has Sakura ever extracted even 1/4 that kind of emotion from the viewers? During her big forehead flashbacks against Ino when she broke their friendship over a crush, only for INO to be the one to reconnect?
There's a good analysis on what that really signifies I read last year. I should be able to make a thread on it with personal insight if I ever find the points brought up which should steer it towards the right direction; but that's not really why the friendship was compromised. Ino always mocked Sakura for her dependency on her, and how she didn't seem to grow out of her shell. When Sakura breaks up the friendship, she's breaking out of her cacoon and showing to Ino that she can stand alone with the same air of confidence she has. The friendship from the way it's told Sakura aspired to become like Ino because she admires her, this before Sakura finds her confidence, and grows some balls under Ino's courageous demeanor. It all ties up with some manga scans for visual presentation, but I'm not too energetic at the moment.

Hence why Naruto's series is successful and hence why Sakura is universally hated. If you can't see the difference between Naruto and Sakura in writing, I can't help you.
It's not really her fault she's voiced by a really annoying, naggy voice in the dub version and got Konohamaru'd for most of the series.

The difference only really exists in combat ability, and that's where my point with Konohamaru has been contributing to that point, which to this point you have been ignoring. Hasn't Konohamaru been getting incessant hate and being constantly called names? This is exactly what makes characters universally hated, it's actually not for how the characters may be badly written. Do your own research, if you are capable, and ask exclusively fans who aren't exposed to the internet poison how they personally feel about certain characters in Naruto. It's unlikely you'll get answers along the lines of Sakura being useless, because there isn't anyone to ingrain it in them.



What happened after she got Byakugo? Got cocky and needed saving, got sidelined immediately, outshined by Tsunade, thinking of Sasuke while fighting, letting her insecurity and emotions dictate her actions, leading to her being in need of saving, etc.
Which character doesn't get cocky when they're escatic about their own improvement in power even in the slightest bit? Neji, got cocky and thought he could brawl with Kidoumaru without getting scathed. Sasuke got cocky after attaining Chidori before he got humbled by Naruto upon ascertaining its destructive power, then enraged. Naruto, your majestic hero, got so cocky after attaining KCM that Itachi blatantly warned him about shouldering roles he cannot carry alone. Sakura getting cocky for a moment has no bearing on her character overall, and that's not even cocky when the whole truth to why she was so forward with showing-off was to prove she wasn't a burden anymore. Her not succeeding on that part that was the author's decision, but for your enquiry on that, you have been answered as Sakura enjoys standing back to back with Sasuke and Naruto more than when she was smashing the mini-Juubi's around, as foolproofed by her tearing smile.

Even in Gaiden, just when you think she has changed, she still has a temper, even worse than before in fact, still is getting saved and sidelined, still lying, and still can't get Sasuke's attention.
So? Sasuke is still stoic and standoffish, and Naruto still smiles almost unnecessarily. You can't take away a large part of what makes up a character and then hope for fans to think that's going to be impactful. Switch Sasuke and Naruto's personalities and that will enrage a lot of fans. For Sakura that might have been the way to go, that might have been not, but for the most part, she's calm and doesn't act impetuously, which is why in the Anime she doesn't charge up at Shin when they're found in a very sticky situation, and is calm enough to find a way around it with Sasuke non-verbally, that's a different Sakura to the one you would have encountered in early pt.1.



so where is Part 2 Sakura's character development outside of getting CES and YS?
Kishimoto wasn't interested in developing her power-wise obviously, and was probably running out of ideas at the near end, considering he gave Naruto RSM which he later on takes away, then gives Sasuke Rinnegan powers of which only one is ever really used. Talk about redundant gimmicks.

But I do agree that power isn't everything in terms of character development, as I enjoy both Kakashi and Hinata's characters, as you pointed out. But Sakura has neither personal or power development, not substantial enough for someone with her screen time, anyways.
Sakura is actually a depth character. You are just stuck ups that can't get over the fact she got some respect from Obito and made Kaguya a punching bag for a moment. If you can enjoy Hinata with how boring she is, then let Sakura fans enjoy her for what she brings out on the table, instead of being salty about it and going for a doctorate in the subject.



Oh please, as if fan reactions from SS faps means anything in terms of how well the writing is. Like, are you f-ing joking? Seriously? SS stans who wet themselves over forhead touches, passing comments, and subtle eye glances saying Gaiden was good means it's good?
That's all on what you think it came from, but it's factually true that Sakura churned good reaction in terms of the fight, I honestly don't know when you got off track there. You could get all preachy, but you're just as guilty of getting moist over impressive feats as Sakura stans, as you fervently call them. You still got moist over Hinata inheriting some purple chakra that turned out completely useless used independently.

Everyone enjoys a well animated fight scene. Has nothing to do with Sakura herself. Next.
Right, so all fights with Sasuke and Naruto cannot be seen as their fights and just choreography that should be credited to the workforce of SP, and when has your idea of development suddenly shifted from cool fights? I see double-standards here.
This coming from the guy who says people have a shallow view of character development, only caring for power, then always bashing Hinata, a character who's development is primarily emotional. Wowzies. :lol
The point stays the same. No need to get on the emotional side, I've only been approaching this dispassionately, don't try to make it a heart-to-heart about poor Hinata.

Kushina would have punched the ground had Naruto asked a simple question about his father?
Lmao, how would I know, but Kushina is portrayed to be punchy like Sakura, so take a guess. I don't really know about smashing the ground without the strength though. The likehood exists with her having the balls and CES to grand that possibility. You don't think she can throw a punch at her son or do anything comically harmful when she throws a fit? Temaru whooped Shikadai's ass too and she's somewhat your tsundere, like Kushina, or tsunda, I might have them mixed up, but you got 3 mothers with fiery hearts and violent tendencies and Hinata is the only one seeming to not go the physical route when portraying feelings of disagreement with the child? You know, it's more weird Hinata doesn't touch any of her children than Sakura or Temari or Kushina doing it. She does it psychologically, so I give her props for that. What stays in the mind is always more impactful and could terrify the child, so she's winning the fierce battle.


Show a scan or stop lying. You Sakura stans are so shameful trying to undermine other characters just to justify Sakura's very clear lunatic tendencies.
Lmao. How are Kushina and Sakura any different when Minato sees the resemblence? Are you denying the observation of a once-in-a-life-time genius? I don't reckon.

Show a scan or stop lying.
Lmao, you're such a dumb-ass, you know damn well this can't be justified with physical evidence. It's plain obvious Temari would whoop a child's ass or have Shikadai blown away with her fan if it was to make fun or make a comical scene out of it. In the end, it comes down to context, and you always miss that completely. No wonder the comprehension lessons advised comments that pile up in all threads with you and salamander, your comprehension abilities only goes as far as your subjective view dictitates it, or could just be plain moronic.


Show a scan of this or stop lying.
I will have to reiterate what I said above here.

Oh so she's not the first.
Which female in the Naruto series has actually soloed? I might have forgotten.
 
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Iruka beating a main protag with at most 600 pages worth of content XD
It's not such a big achievement when Sakura barely does a main character job for most of the series. Iruka was fulfilling his uncle role in Naruto's life and it's a huge 1up if it's the main character. Look at Roshi, he would score high in the DBZ polls since he goes way back with Goku, much like Iruka.
 
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