[Discussion] Sanji vs Capone incoming
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Agreed zoro would mid diff but that's another topic for another day :bdpf:
Lol stop the WG knows who sanji is they just don't care
Vandenre1ch
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Sanji ain't went all out yet, I'm still thinking if Zoro is to win it will be with extreme diff but that's just me. They cant be this far apart in power.
I view the gap between the M3 like the gap between the C3.
I view the gap between the M3 like the gap between the C3.
KingHashirama
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Yup, and unlike Zoro and Luffy, he can do all those things. Hence why I'm saying it only makes sense for the guy who is useless outside of fighting, to be on a level above than a guy who can fight and can do many more things.
Why create 2 people who are on the same level, while 1 who is supposed to be the second strongest and the "righ hand man" of the captain is useless outside of fighting.. but the other one who is on the same level is more useful than the captain himself and the right hand man?
Sanji will still take Zoro to mid-diff.
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wits + strength can sometimes match just sheer strength. Zoro and Luffy should be above Sanji when it comes to straight fighting prowess (although he's not too far behind) but Sanji makes up for it with his brain. He's the most well rounded Strawhat imo, he has an important role on the ship as a cook for day to day needs
Unique skill: check
He always comes up with some tactic to help the crew escape out of some situation
Brains: Check
And he is a part of the monster trio when it comes to strength alone
Brawn: Check
Also this isn't about Zoro vs Sanji, we're talking Capone, Im sure Sanji gives Capone a solid fight, most likely even beats him.
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Kamui Sama
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Even if Sanji can beat capone (which I highly doubt), he can't afford to get into a drawn-out fight with the rest of big-mom's crew right there as well...
They need to get the hell out of there ASAP. Maybe Lola is indeed Big Mom's daughter and Nami's vivre card will save their asses.
They need to get the hell out of there ASAP. Maybe Lola is indeed Big Mom's daughter and Nami's vivre card will save their asses.
KingHashirama
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Why are you telling me "this isn't Zoro vs Sanji".. when you compared them to in your reply to me?
Issue is Zoro and luffy aren't just sheer strength when it comes to battle, both have been training as fighters since they were really young, Zoro and Luffy before starting as strawhats were also training as fighter, Zoro as bounty hunter.
I don't think Oda will do the injustice of making someone who has multiple talents, be on the equal of a right hand man, whose only talent is fighting, in fighting. Zoro's thing is he the stronger fighter. Sanji's thing is hes the more useful one. Thats how I have always viewed Sanji's role, as the man who can do what Zoro and Luffy will drastically fail at doing.
And he can't beat Capone imo, no chance. Would be no point in making the supernova, if you are gonna have the 3rd strongest crewmate of a supernova take out another supernova, right after the whole timeskip ot show the development of the "Supernovas".
You gotta understand Sanji's role as the "invisible" man, ironic cause he wanted the invisible df.Why are you telling me "this isn't Zoro vs Sanji".. when you compared them to in your reply to me?
Issue is Zoro and luffy aren't just sheer strength when it comes to battle, both have been training as fighters since they were really young, Zoro and Luffy before starting as strawhats were also training as fighter, Zoro as bounty hunter.
I don't think Oda will do the injustice of making someone who has multiple talents, be on the equal of a right hand man, whose only talent is fighting, in fighting. Zoro's thing is he the stronger fighter. Sanji's thing is hes the more useful one. Thats how I have always viewed Sanji's role, as the man who can do what Zoro and Luffy will drastically fail at doing.
And he can't beat Capone imo, no chance. Would be no point in making the supernova, if you are gonna have the 3rd strongest crewmate of a supernova take out another supernova, right after the whole timeskip ot show the development of the "Supernovas".
He is the supernova lvl strength that simply wasn't in the spotlight therefore he surprises his opponents with his strength.
"I dont have time to waste fighting against some small fry"
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Middle: "Whats this strength!! This was an underling?"
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Top left, Isn't even aware of Sanji's bounty.
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Do you honestly believe Zoro can't mid diff some of the Supernovas? If Sanji can give Zoro mid diff in your eyes, Im sure he can beat some of the lower Supernovas considering Zoro should be one of the stronger ones.
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Zoro would mid diff sanji. People keep overestimating sanji because we haven't seen him go all out. We also never seen zoro go all out and he one shoted pica we he got to his real body while sanji was about to lose to vergo at best low high diff.
Not even close, do u honestly think Sanji with things he has shown until now at least can do that much against G4, I mean G4 was strong enough to rag Doll Doflamingo, in my eyes G4 can simply Low-diff current Sanji and that's pushing it.
Kamui Sama
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KingHashirama
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Invisible man who has the 3rd biggest bounty in the crew? lol. His invisible man thing is in the past..people know of black leg sanji now.
He was supernova level but wasn't in spotlight because 1 person he fought didn't know who he was? Well how about the times people were caught surprised by Zoro's strength? That person also didn't know ussop either.. infact less people know ussop than Black leg Sanji. Considering Sanji has the higher bounty.
Nope, I don't see any of the supernovas Mid-diffing each other right now to be honest. Might be able to sure, but as of where they stand right now, don't see it being the case. Probably when Luffy gets on younkou level or on the level of people like Doffy, we'll start seeing that. But, Zoro > lower supernovas > Sanji.
Capone's Devil fruit is literally storing an army inside himself.
Tell me how Sanji is unable to beat that. He's seen plenty of time kicking a large group of enemies.
And again, the rank of supernova has nothing to do with strength and everything with bounty. Its so dumb to say lower supernova > anyone. Because first there is no such thing as lower supernova because you are unable to make a proper ranking based on strength, and second, anyone with a certain level of bounty at a certain point in his journey can call himself a super rookie.
How about Cavendish, Barto and Caribou. They're also rookies.
Sanji just isn't a supernova because he never got picked up by the marines as much pre skip. Bounties are super unreliable ask Chopper and Sogeking. Besides Kidd got a high bounty because he killed a lot of civilians.
So if Sanji killed some civilians pre-skip which would make his bounty hit the 100M, would he suddenly be stronger in your book. ?
You're bending yourself in so many corners to just not accept the fact that Sanji is very much able to beat someone like Capone that its becoming pretty sad.
Not a single good argument has been made by you on the last 10 pages. It's all reflection, distraction, other characters, not answering anything, asking for evidence while yourself have none.
Time to stop with the bullshlt, it has been fun.
KingHashirama
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Stop replying to me, you are trying to hard to be a smartass, only continuing to fail.
The rank of a Yonkou has nothing to do with the Yonkou's personal power, but instead the amount of territories they have conquered. However nonetheless, Yonkou have their own tier with the admirals, a posiition that is gained by merit or influence.
Cavendesh , Barto, Caribou are not from the same Supernova generation as Luffy... god damn man, too hard to understand?
The rank of a Yonkou has nothing to do with the Yonkou's personal power, but instead the amount of territories they have conquered. However nonetheless, Yonkou have their own tier with the admirals, a posiition that is gained by merit or influence.
Cavendesh , Barto, Caribou are not from the same Supernova generation as Luffy... god damn man, too hard to understand?
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That is incorrect the yonkou are part of a trinity that is equal in power with the other two forces in the san dai seiryoku.
So in contrast to the rookies the title of yonkou actually does hold power.
And why does it matter that Cavendish, Barto anc Caribou are not from the same generation. It only adds to the point that the title of rookie is a paper tiger that holds no value.
There have been previous generations and there will be many more generations. Anyone with a bounty of 100 million on sabaody will be in that club, It doesn't matter of your bounty reflects strength or mass murder.
That's why you can't say that Capone is stronger because Sanji is much more impressive by feats. Only a fool would deny that. But you're doing a good job at that so far.
I love how you not only managed to dodge all the questions as I already predicted in my previous post, you were also wrong with the new points you tried to make. Dance monkey dance, what will you say next.
I already called you out twice now that you didn't bring a decent argument and never were able to answer the question in front of you.
* Will you try to answer it and realize that you were wrong
* Are you going to answer it, realize you were wrong, but be a stubborn bltch about it and not admit it
* Or are you going to evade everything again and come up with irrelevant stuff.
I wonder what the monkey will do next.
KingHashirama
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cool.. has nothing to do with how a Yonko is declared.
Not in contrast to just the rookies. Contrast to every single person who is not a Yonko.. the title holds power.
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Why does it matter? Because we aren't comparing 2 different generations.
Zoro/Luffy/Kidd/Law/Capone/Killer and etc are part of the supernovas of the "Worst generation". Barto and etc aren't.
And none of them will be part of the "worst generation". And I won't compare them as if they are..
@bold, proof?
You mean, Sanji is the one who has actually been in battle, while Capone really hasn't, and hence Sanji has had the chance to showcase more battle techniques compared to Capone? Then if we are solely basing our judgement on what they have shown, then only a fool bother trying to give a judgement on who would win.
You have been failing in most of your replies to me.. ranging from the title of yonko to the parallels and so on.
You ignoring the argument, and keep on saying "you didn't bring a decent argument".. won't make my argument indecent. Just shows you are pretty desperate to put down an argument.
" So if Sanji killed some civilians pre-skip which would make his bounty hit the 100M, would he suddenly be stronger in your book. ?"
Sure, now if Zoro killed the same amount of civilians on top of what hes done.. his bounty would be stronger also. Now do show me Capone/Uroge/Law and etc killing the civilians to gain bigger bounties. Basing an assumption from what Shakky said about Kidd and applying it to all of the supernovas is a pretty naive and a foolish thing to do.
Just sit back and reply to your next idiotic post. While you pretend to be a smartass.