[Discussion] Sanji vs Capone incoming

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Again lol

No one every said bounty determine your strength and what happened with robin is a special case because the stronger the person is the higher their bounty usually is. I don't want to base them off there bounty but sanji had a 77 million bounty he obviously wasn't much of a threat as any of the other "supernovas". Every single supernovas at the time would beat him and they would still beat him now.
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I used to think that the supernovas Sanji could beat were Urouge, Capone, and Bonney, but seeing how important Oda is trying to make them, i think Sanji may not be able to beat a single one of them, at least yet. Not sure later in the serie
 

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well I will respond to this OBVIOUS BAIT AND SAY WHAT YOU AND THE REST OF THE SANJI FANBOYS want to hear:

first i will go with the obvious... supernovas are called so because of thier bounty not thier strength so being a supernova does not guarantee you victory

secondly this BM situation is sanji`s time to shine and pull some feats to justify his M3 position even if it`s kidd and his crew there you must expect sanji to come out as a winner . this is sanji`s chance to redeem himeself i seriously doubt that oda will make him fail at this cause that would be really pathatic
 

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well I will respond to this OBVIOUS BAIT AND SAY WHAT YOU AND THE REST OF THE SANJI FANBOYS want to hear:

first i will go with the obvious... supernovas are called so because of thier bounty not thier strength so being a supernova does not guarantee you victory

secondly this BM situation is sanji`s time to shine and pull some feats to justify his M3 position even if it`s kidd and his crew there you must expect sanji to come out as a winner . this is sanji`s chance to redeem himeself i seriously doubt that oda will make him fail at this cause that would be really pathatic
So you think sanji can beat kid pirates
 

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Its not a fanfic. I'm sure Lucci didn't have a 4000 basic strength and fought Lucci while Zoro and Sanji fought Kaku and Jabra, who had 2200 and 2180 basic strength respectively. Yep. All that is fake.

Also, I said on the same level. Being equal and on the same level are different. Since when has Luffy and Zoro been portrayed to be equal or on the same level? Cause a comedic fight in chapter 112 bares little weight. I highly doubt Zoro could've beaten Crocodile, Lucci or had a better performance against Moriah.

@BSK Zoro's speed equal to Sanji?...ok....also, because they are supernovas, doesn't mean they are stronger than Sanji. Supernovas are rookie pirates with 100+ million bounties. If Usopp had a bounty that high at the time, he'd be a supernova. You think Capone, Killer Bonney or Urouge can beat Vergo?
Apparently God Usopp with 500mil is stronger than Sanji :rolleyes:
 

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So its all about disgrace and status? Zoro and Sanji are the top 3 fighers of the SH crew. Whats so disgraceful about Zoro and Sanji being on the same level like they have been portrayed throughout the series? It was portrayed in Arlong Park, Alabasta, Skypia, Enies Lobby, in Thriller Bark and Fishman Island. A bit in Punk Hazard as well.

What I said about Usopp stands firm. Reason Kidd has a 315 million bounty is because of all the civilian casualties he caused. You making it sound like bounties equal strength. Chinjao has a 500+ million bounty so I guess that makes him stronger than Luffy n' Law.

Are you seriously disregarding Zoro and Sanji's fights with Kaku and Jabra? Because of Luffy vs Zoro? Ok then. If Luffy and Zoro were 100% even at that time(112), then Luffy is far n' beyond Zoro. No reason for you to say Luffy equal to or barely stronger than Zoro. G2 set them apart, G3 extended the gap and G4 extended it even further. Its would be foolish to say Zoro had more progression than Luffy over the timeskip.
Not that I know of.. cause i never said it was about disagrace and status. Luffy , Zoro and Sanji are the top 3 fighters of the SH crew. Now, what I don't get is you claimed their portrayal of "being on the same level" was in all those arcs, yet don't mention anything specific.

Arlong Park - Zoro took on the second strongest (but do explain how they were portrayed to be on the same level)
Alabasta - Zoro took on the second strongest (But do explain how Sanji and him were portrayed to be on the same level)
Skypia - Zoro and Luffy are again portrayed to be on the same level, with Luffy laughing at them saying Zoro was captured, and Zoro laughing at them claiming Luffy was captured.
Enies lobby - Zoro again takes on the second strongest, and moment of Luffy's trust in Zoro's combat abilities is shown in this arc again. His strength is also indirectly compared to luffy's during the train.
Thriller Bark - Sanji gets K.O'd by a hit from Zoro's sword.. Zoro then proceeds to take all of Luffy's damage. Tell me how they are portrayed to be on the same level.
Fishman Island - do explain how they were shown to be on the same level


Chinjao gained the bounty in his prime, in which he very well may have been stronger than current luffy. But why compare someone who is out of his prime and was suffering from illness and is affected by old age?

Supernova are the top pirates of their generation, in which from strawhats only Zoro and Luffy are included, if Oda wanted to make a portrayal of "zoro = Sanji or on the same level", why not include Sanji in there? Because imo hes not, and he won't be by the end either.

Now, i don't see how you can claim G3 and G2 increased their gap. Zoro from what i recall never went all out like Luffy did.

Apparently God Usopp with 500mil is stronger than Sanji :rolleyes:
Usopp's current bounty is only at 30 mil.

Doflamingo's little bounty has no relevance , as official bounties are determined by the world government.
 
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lol, you tried man, you tried.

Not that I know of.. cause i never said it was about disagrace and status. Luffy , Zoro and Sanji are the top 3 fighters of the SH crew. Now, what I don't get is you claimed their portrayal of "being on the same level" was in all those arcs, yet don't mention anything specific.

Arlong Park - Zoro took on the second strongest (but do explain how they were portrayed to be on the same level)
Alabasta - Zoro took on the second strongest (But do explain how Sanji and him were portrayed to be on the same level)
Skypia - Zoro and Luffy are again portrayed to be on the same level, with Luffy laughing at them saying Zoro was captured, and Zoro laughing at them claiming Luffy was captured.
Enies lobby - Zoro again takes on the second strongest, and moment of Luffy's trust in Zoro's combat abilities is shown in this arc again. His strength is also indirectly compared to luffy's during the train.
Thriller Bark - Sanji gets K.O'd by a hit from Zoro's sword.. Zoro then proceeds to take all of Luffy's damage. Tell me how they are portrayed to be on the same level.
Fishman Island - do explain how they were shown to be on the same level


Chinjao gained the bounty in his prime, in which he very well may have been stronger than current luffy. But why compare someone who is out of his prime and was suffering from illness and is affected by old age?

Supernova are the top pirates of their generation, in which from strawhats only Zoro and Luffy are included, if Oda wanted to make a portrayal of "zoro = Sanji or on the same level", why not include Sanji in there? Because imo hes not, and he won't be by the end either.

Now, i don't see how you can claim G3 and G2 increased their gap. Zoro from what i recall never went all out like Luffy did.



Usopp's current bounty is only at 30 mil.

Doflamingo's little bounty has no relevance , as official bounties are determined by the world government.
Don't make this thread into something that it isn't.

But to answer your questions. Up till Enies Lobby Zoro and Sanji were on even footing. There is a small gap ever since.

In Arlong Park it took Sanji 3 seconds to deal with his opponent. Mr. 1 and Mr. 2 were a **** hair away in terms of strength. The same with Jyabura and Kaku, which even was shown in numbers. In Thriller Bark Zoro took a bit of a lead and he maintained it compared to Sanji. After the timeskip they got stronger but the gap is still there, while Luffy walked away and is on a level of his own.
 

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Not true a lot of things sanji did behind scenes which made his bounty stay the way it was not to mention they had trouble identifying his face.... U make it seem as if sanji has not done shit which is why his bounty didn't increase
Of course sanjo is the smart dude out of the 3. Where as luffy and zorro are strictly fighters. While sanjo can go **** shit up like at ennies lobby.

And they didn't have trouble identifying himm... from what I recall the dude just didn't take the cap off of the camera.
 

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All of you guys are stupid Caribou had a 100+ million bounty but he was fodder to sanji. Sanji can one shot a pacifista making him quite formidable. He also was fighting vergo while severely damaged. Something Smoker couldn't do.
 

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lol, you tried man, you tried.



Don't make this thread into something that it isn't.

But to answer your questions. Up till Enies Lobby Zoro and Sanji were on even footing. There is a small gap ever since.

In Arlong Park it took Sanji 3 seconds to deal with his opponent. Mr. 1 and Mr. 2 were a **** hair away in terms of strength. The same with Jyabura and Kaku, which even was shown in numbers. In Thriller Bark Zoro took a bit of a lead and he maintained it compared to Sanji. After the timeskip they got stronger but the gap is still there, while Luffy walked away and is on a level of his own.
LOl bruh don't even argue with him. He's the same even in Naruto section, dude is a plain retard XD
 

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Well it doesnt literally mean that Sanji is weaker than all of the supernovas just because he wasnt included in that group of pirates, though in an fight against the likes of Law, Luffy, Kidd, X Drake, Hawkins and Apoo I dont think sanji has much of a chance, and for me he is basically weaker than all of the fighters I rated and then there is Capone, Bonney, Killer, Urogue who probably are all at the ballpark of Sanji, more or less right now its mere assumptions on who would win in ur matchup but I do think that Sanji would pull out a high-extreme diff win.
 

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Don't make this thread into something that it isn't.

But to answer your questions. Up till Enies Lobby Zoro and Sanji were on even footing. There is a small gap ever since.

In Arlong Park it took Sanji 3 seconds to deal with his opponent. Mr. 1 and Mr. 2 were a **** hair away in terms of strength. The same with Jyabura and Kaku, which even was shown in numbers. In Thriller Bark Zoro took a bit of a lead and he maintained it compared to Sanji. After the timeskip they got stronger but the gap is still there, while Luffy walked away and is on a level of his own.
@bold, should've said that to the guy who responded to me, or the guy who mentioned the supernovas in first in the thread.

You said you were going to answer my questions, when all you did was give a vague statement. Up until Ennies lobby, Zoro vs Luffy and these 2 being on the same level was shown over and over. And then at Enies lobby Zoro's power is indirectly compared to the Captain's. "Small gap".. uhh no, there is a big gap.

@Bold, where did you get that? I might've missed it so please do give me the reference for this.

At Arlong park Sanji took 3 seconds with his opponent.. Nice.. his opponent who was weaker than Zoro's opponent. So how does this show they are on the same level? Do elaborate.


Luffy and Zoro are still on the same level, judging from Zoro's performance so far.. Plus we haven't seen Zoro go all out yet. They always will be. Zoro is the future Dark King, while Luffy is the future pirate King.. their roles on the ship are strictly limited to fighting only. Where as Sanji serves multiple purposes, he is a fighter, he is the "intelligent" guy out of the trio who does all the secert foiling like he did at enies lobby, and his of course Major role is the role of chief. Luffy and Zoro are pretty much just there to follow orders and fight.



What I don't like is how Sanji fans such as the other dude who is insulting people , because we don't think he with Zoro and luffy, so what tho? That means he sucks? no.. hes still the 3rd strongest in their crew. But it is only logical that the 2 people who are limited to the fighting role are in their own level.

Well it doesnt literally mean that Sanji is weaker than all of the supernovas just because he wasnt included in that group of pirates, though in an fight against the likes of Law, Luffy, Kidd, X Drake, Hawkins and Apoo I dont think sanji has much of a chance, and for me he is basically weaker than all of the fighters I rated and then there is Capone, Bonney, Killer, Urogue who probably are all at the ballpark of Sanji, more or less right now its mere assumptions on who would win in ur matchup but I do think that Sanji would pull out a high-extreme diff win.
Luffy/Law/Zoro vs Kidd/ (blonde dude)/ Killer , oh man if this happens, that hype would be so real!!! =D

Killer and Sanji in the same ballpark? ehhhh idk man, thats uhh..
 
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