[VS] Sandaime Raikage vs KN6 Naruto

[Apêx1]

No, that does not imply a TBB ever hit Sandaime at all.

 

[Lord Tywin]

No, that does not imply a TBB ever hit Sandaime at all.

Why would Hachibi hold back from using BB? Or when has Raikage shown to be able to dodge a technique with a radius of a mountain? Or what feat from Raikage allows him to interrupt Hachibi mid tbb prep, when we've seen how fast FBD are created? He must have been able to tank those TBB

 

[Brooks]

No, that does not imply a TBB ever hit Sandaime at all.

And why is that when Gyūki was talking like he was sure his Bijūdama hit the 3rd Raikage?

 

[Apêx1]

Why would Hachibi hold back from using BB? Or when has Raikage shown to be able to dodge a technique with a radius of a mountain? Or what feat from Raikage allows him to interrupt Hachibi mid tbb prep, when we've seen how fast FBD are created? He must have been able to tank those TBB

What the hell? Stop acting like lack of feats=Hachibi hit TBB. That doesn't make a shred of sense. We don't know Sandaime's ninjutsu potential at all, we don't know how he fought Hachibi, we don't know exactly how fast he is, etc. Either way, Hachibi used laser TBB on Taka instead of a regular TBB for a variety of reasons, including being hit by his own TBB since this is a CQC fight / he has no tails meaning he has a hard time pushing back the Sandaime. So your post is completely illogical.

And why is that when Gyūki was talking like he was sure his Bijūdama hit the 3rd Raikage?

Lol???? Read the VIZ, there is absolutely no certainty behind what he says;

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[Brooks]

Lol???? Read the VIZ, there is absolutely no certainty behind what he says;

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Naruto: "So, How'd you manage scar Raikage Gramps' chest?!"

Gyūki: "...With my Bijuu Bomb I think?"

The uncertainty in this scan only applies to whether his Bijūdama was what gave the 3rd Raikage a scar.

 

[Apêx1]

Naruto: "So, How'd you manage scar Raikage Gramps' chest?!"

Gyūki: "...With my Bijuu Bomb I think?"

The uncertainty in this scan only applies to whether his Bijūdama was what gave the 3rd Raikage a scar.

You're either trolling or have weak reading comprehension. "...With my Bijuu bomb, I think" means there's no certainty to the claim that Bijuu bomb did in fact hit Sandaime in their fight(s). It means he used a TBB, but it does not, in any way, mean it hit the Sandaime. He's just stating the only technique he has that has the ability to inflict damage on the Sandaime. You can't outright claim Sandaime tanked a TBB off of the uncertainty of a statement. The entire panel displays uncertainty with "Huh?!" and "Hmm.. Or maybe" when he doesn't even know about Hell Stab piercing Sandaime.

 

[Lord Tywin]

What the hell? Stop acting like lack of feats=Hachibi hit TBB. That doesn't make a shred of sense. We don't know Sandaime's ninjutsu potential at all, we don't know how he fought Hachibi, we don't know exactly how fast he is, etc. Either way, Hachibi used laser TBB on Taka instead of a regular TBB for a variety of reasons, including being hit by his own TBB since this is a CQC fight / he has no tails meaning he has a hard time pushing back the Sandaime. So your post is completely illogical.

Stop. Being close to the opponent never stopped Hachibi from using regular tbb. He was using tbb when he was 20ft from the juubi twice. So no, A wild hachibi would never go easy on Raikage by using regular BD.

 

[Curse Mark]

Why would Hachibi hold back from using BB? Or when has Raikage shown to be able to dodge a technique with a radius of a mountain? Or what feat from Raikage allows him to interrupt Hachibi mid tbb prep, when we've seen how fast FBD are created? He must have been able to tank those TBB

He said they both fell with their attacks.

 

[Lord Tywin]

He said they both fell with their attacks.

Go read my previous post

 

[Apêx1]

Stop. Being close to the opponent never stopped Hachibi from using regular tbb. He was using tbb when he was 20ft from the juubi twice. So no, A wild hachibi would never go easy on Raikage by using regular BD.

??? The Juubi is an entirely story and nothing applies to him because he's not an actual 1v1 target in hat same context. Either way, if you don't want to accept it, don't. PROVE with substantial basis for your claim that Sandaime was hit and tanked TBB. I'll be waiting.

 

[NarutoX28]

Well, if the Bijuudama was really capable of defeating Sandaime Raikage, then Hachibi wouldn't have contradicted himself in the first place.

 

[Brooks]

You're either trolling or have weak reading comprehension. "...With my Bijuu bomb, I think" means there's no certainty to the claim that Bijuu bomb did in fact hit Sandaime in their fight(s). It means he used a TBB, but it does not, in any way, mean it hit the Sandaime. He's just stating the only technique he has that has the ability to inflict damage on the Sandaime. You can't outright claim Sandaime tanked a TBB off of the uncertainty of a statement. The entire panel displays uncertainty with "Huh?!" and "Hmm.. Or maybe" when he doesn't even know about Hell Stab piercing Sandaime.

If you're going to play this game, then your only argument is Sandaime dodged the Bijūdama and in return the only door here for you is the Sandaime has the speed reaction equal to something capable of crossing mountain ranges in seconds.

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[Lord Tywin]

??? The Juubi is an entirely story and nothing applies to him because he's not an actual 1v1 target in hat same context. Either way, if you don't want to accept it, don't. PROVE with substantial basis for your claim that Sandaime was hit and tanked TBB. I'll be waiting.

It doesn't make sense for a WILD hachibi to not use his strongest technique on Raikage. It doesn't make sense for Hachibi to not use TBB when all his tails are chopped off. Once again, Raikage has no speed feats that let him dodge a mountain wide explosion. Hachibi states in suspicion about Raikage's wound, thinking it was his TBB. Note that hachibi says he fell forward with his technique, due to exhaustion, and we know that TBB either crumbled or was detonated when hachibi fell on it. If it detonated the both Raikage and hachibi tanked it in near death state. If TBB crumbled, then it means it wasn't Hachibi's first attempt at using TBB because of his statement "Maybe it was my TBB", implying he had used TBB before he passed out due to exhaustion.

 

[Apêx1]

If you're going to play this game, then your only argument is Sandaime dodged the Bijūdama and in return the only door here for you is the Sandaime has the speed reaction equal to something capable of crossing mountain ranges in seconds.

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Um that's not how it works buddy. The burden of proof is on you to show me an implication, statement or scan of Sandaime being hit by TBB. But obviously, you can't, because it doesn't work like this. By your logic I can say give me a feat of Sandaime which puts his durability high enough to outright tank TBB since his best feat is losing his shroud versus FRS and non-shrouded Sandaime gets cut by Wind Cast Net. So since TBB>FRS and FRS bypassed the shroud, TBB would bypass the shroud AND inflict severe damage on his main body. Yet no scars at all from TBB? #mindfuked By your logic Itachi is not stronger than Obito even though Obito admitted inferiority, since Itachi doesn't have the feats to win. I can go on all day here to show you why your logic is trash.

 

[Lord Tywin]

Edo are weaker than normal self if you're not Madara

 

[Draegod]

You're either trolling or have weak reading comprehension. "...With my Bijuu bomb, I think" means there's no certainty to the claim that Bijuu bomb did in fact hit Sandaime in their fight(s). It means he used a TBB, but it does not, in any way, mean it hit the Sandaime. He's just stating the only technique he has that has the ability to inflict damage on the Sandaime. You can't outright claim Sandaime tanked a TBB off of the uncertainty of a statement. The entire panel displays uncertainty with "Huh?!" and "Hmm.. Or maybe" when he doesn't even know about Hell Stab piercing Sandaime.

SO based on this one post and your logic 2 things stand:

1. He outran a mountain sized explosion in less then a second (faster then Aye, minato and 8 gate speed btw)
2. He avoided a direct hit but was caught in the explosion and survived.

The only two options since it is fact TBB was used and there is no denying it. Pick 1

 

[Apêx1]

It doesn't make sense for a WILD hachibi to not use his strongest technique on Raikage. It doesn't make sense for Hachibi to not use TBB when all his tails are chopped off. Once again, Raikage has no speed feats that let him dodge a mountain wide explosion. Hachibi states in suspicion about Raikage's wound, thinking it was his TBB. Note that hachibi says he fell forward with his technique, due to exhaustion, and we know that TBB either crumbled or was detonated when hachibi fell on it. If it detonated the both Raikage and hachibi tanked it in near death state. If TBB crumbled, then it means it wasn't Hachibi's first attempt at using TBB because of his statement "Maybe it was my TBB", implying he had used TBB before he passed out due to exhaustion.

So you brought me bullshit? IIRC I asked for;

PROVE with substantial basis for your claim that Sandaime was hit and tanked TBB. I'll be waiting.

@bold, how do you know this? Lmao

 

[Brooks]

Um that's not how it works buddy. The burden of proof is on you to show me an implication, statement or scan of Sandaime being hit by TBB. But obviously, you can't, because it doesn't work like this. By your logic I can say give me a feat of Sandaime which puts his durability high enough to outright tank TBB since his best feat is losing his shroud versus FRS and non-shrouded Sandaime gets cut by Wind Cast Net. So since TBB>FRS and FRS bypassed the shroud, TBB would bypass the shroud AND inflict severe damage on his main body. Yet no scars at all from TBB? #mindfuked By your logic Itachi is not stronger than Obito even though Obito admitted inferiority, since Itachi doesn't have the feats to win. I can go on all day here to show you why your logic is trash.

Are really using Edo Sandaime and expect to make a point compare alive Sandaime Raikage? And you think my logic is trash.

 

[Draegod]

Um that's not how it works buddy. The burden of proof is on you to show me an implication, statement or scan of Sandaime being hit by TBB. But obviously, you can't, because it doesn't work like this. By your logic I can say give me a feat of Sandaime which puts his durability high enough to outright tank TBB since his best feat is losing his shroud versus FRS and non-shrouded Sandaime gets cut by Wind Cast Net. So since TBB>FRS and FRS bypassed the shroud, TBB would bypass the shroud AND inflict severe damage on his main body. Yet no scars at all from TBB? #mindfuked By your logic Itachi is not stronger than Obito even though Obito admitted inferiority, since Itachi doesn't have the feats to win. I can go on all day here to show you why your logic is trash.

Prove to me Madara didn't tank Afternoon tiger.

If the 8 tails himself implied the man was harmed by his TBB it means TBB was in fact used against 3rd. It doesn't get more hinted then that when the jutsu user himself seems to think it. Not no rumor, he said she said etc. The 8 tails himself!!!

Him Brushing Off FRS only losing his armor doesn't mean "that's his limit" when nothing in the manga shows or implied that. Especially when it has the elemental advantage and still did nothing. Who's to say that Kyubi infused FRS could barely breach and remove the armor considering it lasted a few seconds.

What we really have here is denial because that would place 3rd in a differ class you refuse to put him in.

 

[Lord Tywin]

holy shiht