[VS] Sandaime Raikage vs KN6 Naruto

[Apêx1]

Location: Open area
Distance: 15 meters
Intel: Full
Restrictions: None

 

[KidGamer65]

Raikage rapes him. Tanks his BD and saws him in half with 1 finger Nukite.

 

[LuckyMan]

Ay III severs his throat with 1FN.

 

[Apêx1]

Raikage rapes him. Tanks his BD and saws him in half with 1 finger Nukite.

You think that massive BD<FRS?

 

[Lord Tywin]

Ay neg diff

 

[Apêx1]

People are severely underrating KN6 Naruto if they don't think he can; blow back Sandaime with a chakra blast, EASILY overpower him with pure strength, use chakra arms to counter Sandaime's arms.

 

[Lord Tywin]

People are severely underrating KN6 Naruto if they don't think he can; blow back Sandaime with a chakra blast, EASILY overpower him with pure strength, use chakra arms to counter Sandaime's arms.

Are you saying t6 Naruto=full Hachibi?
Are you saying Naruto's chakra arms are fast enough to catch Raikage, when KCM Naruto had to be within inches to tag Raikage?
My man...

 

[KidGamer65]

You think that massive BD<FRS?

No, but it's so much stronger that the elemental advantage FRS had doesn't matter. Raikage can tank something a good ways above FRS.

People are severely underrating KN6 Naruto if they don't think he can; blow back Sandaime with a chakra blast, EASILY overpower him with pure strength, use chakra arms to counter Sandaime's arms.

Lol, what chakra blast does he have besides Bijuu Dama? Which is useless. Overpowering him physically doesn't matter when he has Nukite. Chakra Arms are pointless when a single swing=Chakra arms cut apart.

And even then, Raikage can tango with Hachibi. Ay himself took off Hachibi's horn with a chop, and he's probably not physically superior to his father. Just faster. So if KN6 is stronger it isn't by much, nor will the Raikage be getting bullied in a physical match.

 

[Apêx1]

Are you saying t6 Naruto=full Hachibi?
Are you saying Naruto's chakra arms are fast enough to catch Raikage, when KCM Naruto had to be within inches to tag Raikage?
My man...

Makes no sense to compare Bijuu sized creatures to a human sized creature with Bijuu capabilities. KN3 Naruto was extremely overpowered by Kishi and all heightened forms get exponential boosts. Sandaime is a horrendous match-up for Hachibi. Either way, never claimed chakra arms by themselves would work my man ^_^. KN6 Naruto should win.

No, but it's so much stronger that the elemental advantage FRS had doesn't matter. Raikage can tank something a good ways above FRS.


Lol, what chakra blast does he have besides Bijuu Dama? Which is useless. Overpowering him physically doesn't matter when he has Nukite. Chakra Arms are pointless when a single swing=Chakra arms cut apart.

And even then, Raikage can tango with Hachibi. Ay himself took off Hachibi's horn with a chop, and he's probably not physically superior to his father. Just faster. So if KN6 is stronger it isn't by much, nor will the Raikage be getting bullied in a physical match.

I disagree. You think Sandaime can take something multiple times stronger than this

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and survive? Plus, the massive TBB vs Deva wasn't finished prepping and made an explosion this big

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. Does FRS have an elemental advantage? Yes. Did it affect Raikage? Yes. How do you know that the elemental advantage helps it to such an extent as to close the gap with the power of KN6's TBB?

KN6 doesn't need to make direct physical contact with the Raikage since his shockwaves would send him distances away by themselves

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if he ever wants to prep TBB. He's not in the same league strength wise when his shockwaves only send regular people several meters away

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. Please look at KN3's punch

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, and that's WAY weaker than KN4. This is KN6. KN6 EASILY makes Sandaime its toy strength wise (Sandaime obviously does not enter a physical brawl with a Bijuu). In the case chakra arms make contact then surely something which outright decomposes you would bypass durability completely as the SFX suggests

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on the bottom panel. Shockwave sends Sandaime back>TBB at the very least destroys his shroud (probably more than that), chakra arms appear from underneath him and decompose his body/another TBB occurs/blitz.

 

[ARGUS]

Nukite one shots

 

[KidGamer65]

I disagree. You think Sandaime can take something multiple times stronger than this

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and survive? Plus, the massive TBB vs Deva wasn't finished prepping and made an explosion this big

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. Does FRS have an elemental advantage? Yes. Did it affect Raikage? Yes. How do you know that the elemental advantage helps it to such an extent as to close the gap with the power of KN6's TBB?

FRS is easily, and I mean ridiculously easily, above KN4's Bijuu Dama.

-Explosion size? KN4's Bijuu Dama's explosion is as large as Rashomon while FRS's explosion is Mountain Sized when it doesn't condense into the wind sphere.

-Power? KN4's best feat is wrecking Rashomon. FRS's best feat is massively overpowering 25 attacks that can each put a hole like

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(but upscaled since COR>>>>Chidori and Mountain>>>>>Boulder) into a Mountain.

Nothing puts KN6's Bijuu Dama so far above FRS that it'll do any moderate or serious damage to the Raikage when he tanked FRS with practically no performance inhibiting damage despite it having the elemental advantage.

Then there's the argument that Edos aren't as durable as their alive selves. Even then, Raikage can just avoid it unless Naruto fires it to the ground, which he won't do since he's a berserk beast in this mode.

KN6 doesn't need to make direct physical contact with the Raikage since his shockwaves would send him distances away by themselves

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if he ever wants to prep TBB. He's not in the same league strength wise when his shockwaves only send regular people several meters away

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. Please look at KN3's punch

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, and that's WAY weaker than KN4. This is KN6. KN6 EASILY makes Sandaime its toy strength wise (Sandaime obviously does not enter a physical brawl with a Bijuu). In the case chakra arms make contact then surely something which outright decomposes you would bypass durability completely as the SFX suggests

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on the bottom panel. Shockwave sends Sandaime back>TBB at the very least destroys his shroud (probably more than that), chakra arms appear from underneath him and decompose his body/another TBB occurs/blitz.

Orochimaru was literally 10-15m away from KN4 when that shockwave occurred and he was fine. Why would Raikage be thrown backwards? And the logic you are using here is bad.

Ay can put Hachibi on his ass with a Karate Chop to the horn. How is KN6 physically superior to his father?

Using who created what shockwave and who didn't as evidence for your claims doesn't make sense since far stronger people have never made shockwaves this powerful with their physical strikes, yet we know they are far superior to KN3 Naruto, KN4 Naruto, or KN6 Naruto.

-RSM Naruto.
-BSM Naruto.
-Juubi Jinchuuriki.
-Actual Bijuu.

And I could go on. Hell, the shockwave the Bijuu made from pounding Madara's Susanoo in isn't even larger or that much larger (probably not larger) than what KN4 or KN3 did in the Manga, yet All 9 Bijuu>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KN4 in physical strength. Even then, this doesn't matter as he doesn't need to be physically superior in order to win. He just has to be able to land Nukite, which he can do, easily at that.

-Shockwave occurs.
-Raikage jumps back as a response to the incoming physical strike.
-Naruto tries to bind him with chakra arms only for them to get:

A. Reacted to and cut.
B. Reacted to and evaded.

Then Bijuu Dama comes and he dodges that too, especially from whatever distance he'll end up being at once he gets away from KN6's attack.

 

[Unorthodox]

It never surprises me that 3rd raikage can tank anything that blows MS Sasuke's V4 to dust and still win the fight maybe that's why most of these dudes never responded because i shitted on them. - sigh - Kidgamer cannot make up his mind or keep it on one subject who changed your mind now on BD > FRS or is it just because it helps your argument?

FRS's explosion is Mountain Sized

 

[Lord Tywin]

Bruhhhh I'll respond in a little bit

 

[Lord Tywin]

Makes no sense to compare Bijuu sized creatures to a human sized creature with Bijuu capabilities. KN3 Naruto was extremely overpowered by Kishi and all heightened forms get exponential boosts. Sandaime is a horrendous match-up for Hachibi. Either way, never claimed chakra arms by themselves would work my man ^_^. KN6 Naruto should win.
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The simple fact that Raikage went toe to toe with full Hachibi puts him far above t6 Naruto, but Let's make this simple for both of us, since there is nothing much going on for these two, just because Raikage is THAT much superior to this Naruto.
No speed feats from this Naruto suggest he can tag Raikage. Anyhow
No dc feats that lets him harm Raikage
No defensive fears that lets him survive hell stab
Railage stomps

 

[Tantalus Thief]

nukite gg. 3rd Raikage took on full Hachibi he should win this

 

[Beans2]

Well, this is a pretty straightforward match. Raikage wins.

 

[Warlocks]

KN6 Naruto

 

[Curse Mark]

I think raikage maybe mid diff

 

[Apêx1]

FRS is easily, and I mean ridiculously easily, above KN4's Bijuu Dama.

-Explosion size? KN4's Bijuu Dama's explosion is as large as Rashomon while FRS's explosion is Mountain Sized when it doesn't condense into the wind sphere.

-Power? KN4's best feat is wrecking Rashomon. FRS's best feat is massively overpowering 25 attacks that can each put a hole like

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(but upscaled since COR>>>>Chidori and Mountain>>>>>Boulder) into a Mountain.

Nothing puts KN6's Bijuu Dama so far above FRS that it'll do any moderate or serious damage to the Raikage when he tanked FRS with practically no performance inhibiting damage despite it having the elemental advantage.

Then there's the argument that Edos aren't as durable as their alive selves. Even then, Raikage can just avoid it unless Naruto fires it to the ground, which he won't do since he's a berserk beast in this mode.

Edit: God damn I did no realise my post was so long, had to explain things with scans and shit my bad.
Doubtful to say such.

????? So we're going to act like the one explosion it has of such a feat overrules this

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and this

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explosion of FRS? Clearly it is nowhere near what people would like to claim it is based on these. No way in hell the FRS explosion is mountain sized+ since condensing it into something as small as the dome FRS shape would mean its energy is largely stronger than a regular Bijuu's TBB energy per area wise. Makes no sense since a TBB would more than likely vaporise Sandaime and 2x TBB can damage BM avatar/PS.

Lol you're still going with this 25x COR stuff? In Naruto's mind, he can be a reality warper [

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], he can fly [

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], Hachibi can completely stop a TBB with his bare single hand [

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]. Not to mention, he literally ate a TBB explosion and apparently his flesh strength (this was a mere layer he put over his arm, not his actual head) is such that it doesn't even budge open and not a single tooth breaks from the pressure. And then we also remember this is the same much weaker Hachibi than in real life. Same place he creates 10 meter in radius Rasengans

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. Oh, and we see the final explosion

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THIS is Rasengan's power [

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], no idea how you'd scale this to a COR nor do I see how it makes sense when things are different Naruto's mind. But even then, it'd come nowhere near an actual mountain's size. We see the explosion of the 25 COR in the fight

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. Look at bottom panels. Kurama is sent back, the explosion happens, Kurama goes behind the explosion AOE as he's still flying back, he lands and still moves further back due to momentum. Original distance between Naruto and Kurama

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verus new distance

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. The explosion AOE would've been inbetween Kurama and Naruto, meaning the explosion is smaller than Kurama's main body which is only this big inside Naruto's head

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. It's a pretty small explosion tbh, a decent amount larger than FRS's explosion which obviously has a higher energy per area. But this doesn't mean anything at all because KN4 and KN6 TBB>>>>>>>>>>>>>>that explosion. So FRS>>25 COR does not mean anything at all here because KN6 TBB is >>>>>them by a much, muc larger margin explosion size and potency wise.

Orochimaru was literally 10-15m away from KN4 when that shockwave occurred and he was fine. Why would Raikage be thrown backwards? And the logic you are using here is bad.

Ay can put Hachibi on his ass with a Karate Chop to the horn. How is KN6 physically superior to his father?

How did you come to this conclusion that it was 10-15 meters away? More than likely much farther than that, but it's besides the point since it still completely cleared 10,000 snakes. Assuming each snake only weighed 100 grams (half an apple) it still adds up to clearing 1000 kilos ~15 meters in front of him. Sandaime is not withstanding shockwaves from 5-10 meters away at all.

Lol.. Base Bee>Ay in strength. V1 Bee makes Base Bee his toy and v2 Bee makes v1 Bee his kitty cat. This is v1 Bee's strength [

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] and this is v1 Naruto's regular punch without immense momentum like Bee's [

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]. This is a KN1 punch [

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] and this is how far Sandaime sends a rubber ball [

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]. KN6>>>>>>>>>>>KN3>>>>>>>>>KN1. First of all, you haven't told me why Sandaime is as strong as Ay at all. You're just basing it off him being faster=/=him being stronger. But that makes no sense. Not to mention Ay had a huge amount of help from all the people pushing it down and preventing it from properly balancing itself after it attacked the Elite Jonin. Not that it matters, because Ay doing it=/=Sandaime doing it. Ay being as strong as v1 Naruto let alone v2 Naruto is the biggest joke of the century, the chop that apparently dropped the Hachibi on his ass whilst intended for cutting couldn't destroy v1 Susano, Sandaime sends rubber balls 20 meters away and KN1 Naruto sends Orochimaru over 100 meters away based on bridge size. KN6 literally makes Sandaime the joke of the hour strength wise.

Using who created what shockwave and who didn't as evidence for your claims doesn't make sense since far stronger people have never made shockwaves this powerful with their physical strikes, yet we know they are far superior to KN3 Naruto, KN4 Naruto, or KN6 Naruto.

-RSM Naruto.
-BSM Naruto.
-Juubi Jinchuuriki.
-Actual Bijuu.

Irrelevant, hope you don't still try to argue this.

And I could go on. Hell, the shockwave the Bijuu made from pounding Madara's Susanoo in isn't even larger or that much larger (probably not larger) than what KN4 or KN3 did in the Manga, yet All 9 Bijuu>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>KN4 in physical strength. Even then, this doesn't matter as he doesn't need to be physically superior in order to win. He just has to be able to land Nukite, which he can do, easily at that.

Shockwave is not the only insane strength feat he has. KN6>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>any of those strength feats.

Shockwave occurs.
-Raikage jumps back as a response to the incoming physical strike.
-Naruto tries to bind him with chakra arms only for them to get:

A. Reacted to and cut.
B. Reacted to and evaded.

Then Bijuu Dama comes and he dodges that too, especially from whatever distance he'll end up being at once he gets away from KN6's attack.

What the hell? That's a total misrepresentation of what I said. Its shockwave hits Raikage which it DEFINITELY will considering this is now a KN6 Naruto. 2 forms below is the KN4 clearing 10,000 snakes and 2 forms above is something that breaks out of CT with sheer strength. That should give an idea of how the exponential power-ups work, so KN6 Naruto's shockwave sends Sandaime on his ass if it's used from ~10 meters. TBB is prepped while Sandaime is sent back. TBB shits all over him and chakra arms catch him from below while his shroud is no longer present.

 

[Brooks]

Didn't the 3rd Raikage survive a Bijūdama by Gyūki when he stated it might have been a Bijūdama he used that hurt the 3rd's chest and later we found out it with his Nukite that did that damage?

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