Same *** Marriage Is a Right

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I never really understood why Same-*** Marriage was such an issue. In 2013, most American adults identified as straight (96.6%) while people who identify as gay/lesbian are smaller (1.6%) and people who identify as bisexual is even smaller (0.7%). It's not like LGBTQI were going to take over the world when we only make up 2.3% of the population. Even though this was in 2013, I'm pretty sure the average hasn't increased to an overwhelming amount, so banning Same-*** Marriage was just surrounding fear, imo.

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Bias: People could lie about their orientation, but even if there were misconceptions I don't think it would still increase LGBTQI number above Straight number.
 

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Well I'm glad supreme court passed it. This will also have a domino effect towards the anti discrimination laws towards gays, that surprisingly not every state has.

The only downside is this will give the republicans something else to complain about with election season around the corner. First the Obama care was passed yesterday which they hate, now gay marriage which they hate. It's gonna be a really annoying election season...plus a Bush is running.
 

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What do you guys think .

“If you are among the many Americans — of whatever sexual orientation — who favor expanding same-*** marriage, by all means celebrate today’s decision,” Chief Justice Roberts wrote. “Celebrate the achievement of a desired goal. Celebrate the opportunity for a new expression of commitment to a partner. Celebrate the availability of new benefits. But do not celebrate the Constitution. It had nothing to do with it.”
It is an unconstitutional ruling.



The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the states, are reserved to the states respectively, or to the people.

There is no amendment granting the Federal Government authority over marriage.

Thus descends upon America the age of lawlessness.
 

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Meh, it's all just a hypocrisy,

Whatever pleases the people the most, whatever satisfies their needs will be made right by bending all logics and all morals because people can never be wrong and they can never have faults in their characters, its the world and system thats against these poor ****ing retarded majority of the population, they just support each other's hypocrisy and tell each other how awesome those collective stupid are.

Ok rant over now do I think thats an equal right? I don't care tbh, you make decisions you suffer the consequences. Personally I find it disgusting and those people need help but if they aren't forcing anything on anyone and don't tell others what they should do(i.e support this) I say we let them do whatever the **** they want.

Basically yes, let them marry, it ain't hurting no one.
 

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I never really understood why Same-*** Marriage was such an issue. In 2013, most American adults identified as straight (96.6%) while people who identify as gay/lesbian are smaller (1.6%) and people who identify as bisexual is even smaller (0.7%). It's not like LGBTQI were going to take over the world when we only make up 2.3% of the population. Even though this was in 2013, I'm pretty sure the average hasn't increased to an overwhelming amount, so banning Same-*** Marriage was just surrounding fear, imo.

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Bias: People could lie about their orientation, but even if there were misconceptions I don't think it would still increase LGBTQI number above Straight number.

It's because it's the politically in thing to do right now. Notice the extreme lack of movement for the other sexual taboos. Really, we shouldn't just dance around the subject. If the national mentality is that marriage can be pursued regardless of traditional definitions, we should just be one or another and not selectively choose which taboos to make legal based on its increased popularity.
 

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Only the American constitution recognizes same *** marriage to be right. Majority of the world does not, and it hopefully continues to oppose it with death penalty upon this practice.

Also, how is this legalized? Isn't Congress a republican government branch that makes and veto laws? They should have vetoed the Supreme Court for this.

Liberalism is getting out of control. Marriage is always man and woman and it must/and should remain this way to continue the reproduction and tradition.
 

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Only the American constitution recognizes same *** marriage to be right. Majority of the world does not, and it hopefully continues to oppose it with death penalty upon this practice.

Also, how is this legalized? Isn't Congress a republican government branch that makes and veto laws? They should have vetoed the Supreme Court for this.

Liberalism is getting out of control. Marriage is always man and woman and it must/and should remain this way to continue the reproduction and tradition.
1. **** traditional
2. Marriage is about more than reproducing.
 

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Only the American constitution recognizes same *** marriage to be right. Majority of the world does not, and it hopefully continues to oppose it with death penalty upon this practice.

Also, how is this legalized? Isn't Congress a republican government branch that makes and veto laws? They should have vetoed the Supreme Court for this.

Liberalism is getting out of control. Marriage is always man and woman and it must/and should remain this way to continue the reproduction and tradition.
Why do you think nontraditional=bad?
 

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Why do you think nontraditional=bad?
When did I say this?

1. **** traditional
2. Marriage is about more than reproducing.
84% of the world is religious. How you view tradition is irrelevant to how the 84% views it. And you're right; marriage is about a union of father & mother & child, love AND reproduction.
 

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1. **** traditional
2. Marriage is about more than reproducing.
In America, we have this thing called "law."

The process for this law is written down in the Constitution. It is the laws the government must obey. If the government does not obey these, it is behaving in a criminal manner as it is in violation of the contract that established its authority.

Following?

Within the Constitution is a specific set of authorities granted to the national government and the States. The federal government is limited to certain authorities and the state government is denied certain authorities. In other words, the Constitution specifies who gets to make certain types of laws.

For example, the States are not allowed to mint their own currency. By becoming members of the United States, a nation yields its right to print currency to our federal government. It also is forbidden from making laws to tax people for traveling into its state or out of its state (as well as goods). These are things that individual countries would potentially (and quite often) do to each other - but that is not how States within a federated union behave. Thus, such authorities are yielded.

On the other hand, the Federal Government is not given unlimited power and authority over the States. It is given a very specific set of limited powers. The Tenth Amendment was added specifically to drive home this distinction. Any power not specifically granted to the Federal Government or denied to the State governments is reserved to the States.

In other words, unless there is an amendment to the Constitution to expand the purview of the Federal Government, it cannot assume additional authorities on its own accord.

Still following?

Where, in the Constitution, is marriage mentioned?

It isn't.

What does that mean, kiddos?

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It means that the authority belongs to the States unless and until an amendment is passed to the Constitution that grants the federal government jurisdiction.



" At the drafting of the Constitution, the states all had marriage laws of one kind or another. There were wide disparities among them, both then and now, and such disparities have existed at all times in between.

The founders had no desire to settle such matters, and they did not wish a future Congress to do so either. The Constitution they wrote left only two choices: Either allow the states to regulate marriage (with, perhaps, federal consequences to follow)—or else return marriage to the people, to individuals, families, churches, and communities. Either approach would be consistent with the Constitution. The Defense of Marriage Act, however, is not."


That was written by someone in a homosexual marriage back in 2012.
 

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I don't even understanding how can it happen ?
For a law to be passed , shouldn't it be passed in Senate / Congress ? The Supreme Court can only REJECT the law if it deems that the law is not in accordance with the intentions with which the Constitution was made. How can Supreme court make a thing legal ?

While I don't have any problem with gays , I am not sure where to draw the line ? Animal marriage, cannabis consumption etc
Where ?
The society and its rules are changing. I don't know if this would lead us towards a brighter future or would create a pandemonium. The only thing that I can recognise is that the world is changing its laws.
 

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I would really enjoy to hear why ?
Because instead of fixing existing problems with marriage for heterosexual couples. They allow gays to marry in an attempt to keep marriage alive. It was probably their plan all along to destroy anything that makes up the nuclear family. I don't support a perverted propaganda that is trying to twist and confuse everything traditional.
 

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I wonder if the people fighting for gay marriage know how much of a commitment marriage is in general.

With that being said, I don't care either way.
 

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Shame! Shame! Shame! Homosexuality in my opinion is a mental illness. It can only be cured with extreme therapy and medications if needed. It is wrong plain and simple. Man belongs to woman and vice versa. However, as a christian and also a libertarian, i am surprisingly happy for them. Everyone is born free and equal and should have the right to marry or fall in love with which ever human being they like. I can not understand why a man would want to kiss another man or a woman want to marry another woman, but the very least i can do i respect the decision. Much of my empathy comes from the fact that i am black, and us negroes have been punished and treated wrongly by the whites even up to this day. The white man set up segregated bathrooms and made us stay at the back of the public bus, he segregated schools and most of all he intimidated and prevented us from voting, which is a basic human right any free man in my opinion should have the power to do so. They too like the negroes have been oppressed for years by radical conservatives who use the name of religion in vain and to cloak themselves. I like many other negroes, am a christian and while the bible frowns upon this act, i can to a certain degree empathize with them, as i believe all man black or white are equal. To all the Gays and Lesbians out there i may not accept your decision as said earlier but i do wish you good luck and the best in life.

Should you however want to turn away from such vicious acts i suggest seeing a psychologist with the main aim of using therapy to change your mind set. Homosexualism is not something you are born with like i as a Negroe was born black, it is something that comes about as a result of ones environment and their interaction with it.
 
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