Sakura's growth as a ninja is really impressive.

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"didn't have ninja parents"
She does have parents. Though not much is known about Foddura's clan.

Also lol @ free speech being a crime.
We truly live in a controlled society.
 

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I can see the butthurt in your comment, you even post something completely irrelevant just to rustle me lmfaoooooo

Don't worry, the same two Rustle Forces will cancel each other out. Lol
 

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We dont hate her for her growth in ninjutsu.
We hate her because of her very uselessness, annoying character and no self esteem.
 

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Also lol @ free speech being a crime.
We truly live in a controlled society.

Freedom is a virtue, however it can only be a virtue when kept under a clear threshold, it can not be indefinite. Thankfully, we do indeed live in a controlled society, with set laws that do not condone crimes such as theft, murder, and violence.

The same concept applies here in NB, we also have a controlled society with set rules that do not condone character bash among other things, all in an effort to maintain a virtuous community.

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Only the feeble minded deny this.
 

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1.you are right
2.too many threads about sakura
 

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I know a lot of you hate Sakura, but in my opinion her character is often misunderstood. Let's follow her since the beginning of the series...

... So I think it's time to stop hating on Sakura, because with what she was given throughout the whole story, she ended up as a pretty strong ninja. Also, mind you that she is a Medical Ninja - and Medical Ninjutsu will always come first for her.

I suppose it depends on your definition of "ninja" and "shinobi".

To me she's a good healer but a poor shinobi. Same goes for Naruto, whatever the hell he is now... it's sure as hell not a "shinobi". Hero, saviour, warrior, defender, fighter... but a shinobi? Not so much, not to me anyway.

But that makes sense though, considering Naruto breaks the conventions of what a shinobi is supposed to be - challenges the system, brings it crashing down and brings forth a new era - hence the Prophecy I suppose.

To me, a true shinobi is someone like Kakashi Hatake, or Itachi Uchiha, even Danzo Shimura - it's not nessessary a good thing, in of itself. *shrug*
 

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Sakura's such a queen if not all of her haters wouldn't be spreading their salty tears in every single thread, even when it isn't about her. Oh well, what to do, she's too good for someone forget about her. <3
 
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I'm not going to adress everything because some of it isn't that important or you ackowledged I was correct but just negated it in some way.

He had enormous reserves thanks to being Uzumaki.
I haven't heard anything about Uzumaki having huge chakra reserves, however I do know that they have incredible life force, regenerative capabilities and skill in Fuinjutsu. If you can find proof of the Uzumaki Clan having huge chakra reserves than by all means show me. Naruto got his chakra reserves bumped up when he was born because Minato gave him his chakra before he died. That doesn't make your argument any less valid I know, along with alot of other things I said but that doesn't make it any less wrong.

That training failed because Naruto still couldn't control Kyuubi. And Odama Rasengan in 2 years? Not impressive.
Surely you can figure out that the failed training had nothing to do with Naruto, Jiraiya had obviously never learnt how to use Tailed Beast chakra so he was shooting in the dark trying to teach Naruto. If those two years had been spent training with Jiraiya to learn new jutsu I'm sure he would have been able to learn alot just like Sakura did in her two years of training, if not more considering Naruto didn't have to learn about medical ninjutsu.

And? Bijuu are a source of immense, raw power and chakra.
You listed her skills she learnt in the timeskip and said she accomplished them without KKG or bijuu. I simply noted that having bijuu is irrelevant because they have nothing to do with learning medical ninjutsu and chakra enhanced strength.

Wrong. Having huge chakra reserves IS REQUIRED to learn how to gather Senjutsu chakra. Also, huge chakra reserves allowed Naruto to shorten the training time with KB.
Once again to my knowledge I never heard of huge chakra reserves required for Toad Sage Mode in the Manga or Anime. Show me proof If it's true because I can't find it anywhere. But yes he did use his KB to shorten his training duration, but he only used 2 or 3 so its not really like he was taking advantage of his huge chakra reserves considering he only split his chakra up 3 times. So please don't give me that crap, Naruto's sage mode was earnt not given.

And? They were her sensei and didn't even think of training her. Ever.
Firstly, Yamato was team captain but not their sensei. Secondly, Yamato was asked to train Naruto, he did not choose to. And also it was established at the start of shippuden that Kakashi was no longer sensei but was their equal. Kakashi would not have trained Naruto just like he didn't in part 1 if it wasn't for the Akatsuki. Dont worry I understand what you mean though, Sakura was still strong despite not having special training like Naruto.

Doesn't matter, since Kurama was sealed inside of Naruto. It wasn't like Naruto had one chance to defeat Kurama and if he failed the power was gone. Naruto had the power waiting for him.
I'm not exactly sure how to tackle that logic, so you are saying that the he always had the power waiting for him to use yet he still had to accomplish great feats to obtain it? You could use that logic for anything, Sakura always had the potential to use strength of one hundred waiting for her but it took many steps before she could achieve it... Of course not everybody could have potentially used the chakra of Kyuubi like Naruto but at the same time he was the first ever to control it. So one could argue that Naruto had incredible growth considering what HE had, even if what he had was a lot.

Of course she will never catch up with them in terms of power. She simply can't, because she doesn't have things they have. But taking into consideration what she achieved with what she was given - she easily catches up.
If you don't mean she caught up in terms of power then what exactly do you mean? When you say she easily 'catches up' do you mean she is at the same level as them when it comes to making use of what you have? Like when you say she 'catches up' it's not very clear.

You definitely make good points about Sakura having impressive growth but some points you make about Naruto in particular are a bit out of whack because I feel you could make the same argument you made for Sakura with Naruto. Naruto started off with alot more because of Kurama, his chakra and his Uzumaki life force, but he also grew alot more than Sakura as far as power is concerned aswell so you can argue that Naruto also grew vastly considering what HE had. Same goes for Sasuke but a bit less I would say. But don't you think you were being a bit biased saying that if Sakura was in Naruto or Sasuke's position she would do better than them? I mean come on...
 

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No KKG doesn't change the fact she needed Uzumaki jutsu to reach their level and her genes allowed her to master it.
 

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I'm just going to list all the things that are wrong in this thread in point form because there is too much. Not that this thread is completely incorrect of course. But still.


- Kizashi Haruno, her father, was in fact a ninja but is an eternal genin.

- Naruto didn't learn shadow clone jutsu from heritage, he learnt it from the sacred scroll that he stole because Mizuki told him to.

- Naruto didn't get his enormous chakra or kyuubi from heritage, he got them both as 'gifts' if you will from Minato.

- Kakashi taught all three of his genin how to walk up tree's so he did teach Sakura something AND he didn't teach Naruto anything, he only assisted in training Naruto well into Shippuden, this was in order to perfect his new jutsu which Kakashi only did because of special circumstances, I.e The Akatsuki threat, (Ninetales being stolen).

- Sasuke didn't awaken 3 tomo sharingan from Orochimaru's guidance.

- Naruto's training in the time skip was primarily geared towards controlling the Ninetales, so he didn't learn the plethora of jutsu that Jiraiya had at his disposal but he learnt the Odama rasengan anyway.

- Sakura technically started training medical ninjutsu a fair while before the timeskip, ep 141 in fact.

- Having Bijuu has nothing to do with learning chakra enhanced strength, medical ninjutsu or acquiring herbal and poison knowledge.

- Having huge chakra reserves has ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO DO WITH LEARNING SAGE MODE. Naruto learnt it from training hard for it and because he had natural potential for it, but this natural potential had nothing to do with his heritage nor his chakra reserves especially considering that Minato was horrible at using toad sage mode and could only sustain it for about 5 seconds.

- Kakashi and Yamato didn't think to train Sakura in the elemental department because she didn't have an INSANELY POWERFUL ORGANIZATION TRYING TO HUNT HER DOWN FOR THE BEAST INSIDE OF HER LIKE NARUTO.

- Naruto's power was not given to him on a silver platter like you say it was, first he had to defeat Kurama in combat in his own psyche, then he had to befriend something that considered itself the embodiment of hatred in order to unlock its true power (Kurama).

- You say she kept up with Naruto and Sasuke but she didn't, she never reached their level of power and never will, simple as that. But of course there gifts from Hagoromo were just plain handed to them, but that still doesn't change the fact that they are still ahead of her even if they didn't work hard to get it.

In summary, it is true Sakura cops too much hate, but frankly, she is kind of an annoying character (opinion shared largely among Naruto community), and her fanbase is even more annoying because of all the baseless claims they make to try and make Sakura look like she is the best character and ninja (yes, also opinion). And of course she is still easily a top 50 ninja but I disagree that she would do much better than Naruto or Sasuke if she was born with the gifts either of them had because in reality, she really got to stay in the village and train with Tsunade nearly the whole time she started training with her, which is why shes an exact copy of Tsunade. Yes her growth as a ninja is still very impressive, but trying to take Naruto and Sasuke's growth away from them is not fair and makes very little sense.


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I agree,he did downplay Naruto,and Sasuke,but i'll list all the things that you are wrong in.

-Kakashi trained more so so Naruto would catch up to Sasuke,rather than be able to handle Akatsuki.

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Also,Naruto had the potential to learn Sage Mode because he had massive amounts of chakra,which is due to him being an Uzumaki.He inherited it.The OP's point was that Sakura,without being from any special clan,became one of the top Shinobi through hardwork.She's the 2nd best medic ninja,has perfect chakra control,and is one of the physically strongest shinobi in the world.

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I can see the butthurt in your comment, you even post something completely irrelevant just to rustle me lmfaoooooo

You claimed to not read the OP,yet you contiously hanged around here,reading other people's comments,and liking the one which go against Sakura.

That's pretty biased.
 
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hhmmmmmm. I suppose the fact that she was a crap-tier ninja before, and got the yin seal, a high-tier technique means that she grew. However, what annoys most people comes down to 2 things. 1. Her emotional growth isn't that good. She wasn't capable of standing against Sasuke in the 5 kage arc, and still does the "I want to catch up with them" whining. 2. Her role in team 7 is very forced. Even if it's because she has no lineage, she's the weakest in the group, meaning she's always the one failing. So this makes the teamwork naritive of team 7 forced since you have 1 character who generally can't contribute, and when she does, it's kind of an A-pull cough*Kaguya arc*cough.

Also, no, she's not a good ninja with what she has. Outside of medical ninjutsu, she's a taijutsu specialist. Even before she got the yin seal, she had incredible strength that could finish almost anyone in a single punch. You'd think that she'd focus her talents on taijutsu skills as well, enabling her to make use of this incredible CQB potential, but nope! We get this.

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Omoi does not belong in any known lineage. What's more, consider their teachers. Sakura was taught by Tsunade, one of the Sannin which makes her one of the greatest ninjas of the era. Her techniques are things that anybody with enough intelligence and talent can learn. Omoi had Bee, that, while incredibly skilled, has no special technique like yin seal, and gets a lot of power from the 8 tails, something exclusive to him. Tsunade can pass everything down to Sakura, while Omoi can only get some of Bee's training.



Sakura has an enormous physical advantage over Omoi, but got her but handed to her. It shows that she's terrible at applying what she has, unlike her teacher. This is why people use the shockwave argument. If Sakura cannot outright overwhelm an opponent with brute power like a mindless brute (ironic considering she's supposed to be an intellectual), she becomes a punching bag.



Sakura is an intellectual first, and a fighter last. She knows a lot, but has no skill at practical application. If Sakura spent time mastering taijutsu skills, she'd be a monster, and a great shinobi. Instead, she's little more than a brute in combat.
 

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In terms of you liking her more? Okay.In terms of power? Feats? No,you can't prove otherwise with facts,Lana Karin Del Rey guy.

Nice sig though.

Thank You. Lana is a goddess.

Ino beats her in power too.
 

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hhmmmmmm. I suppose the fact that she was a crap-tier ninja before, and got the yin seal, a high-tier technique means that she grew. However, what annoys most people comes down to 2 things. 1. Her emotional growth isn't that good. She wasn't capable of standing against Sasuke in the 5 kage arc, and still does the "I want to catch up with them" whining. 2. Her role in team 7 is very forced. Even if it's because she has no lineage, she's the weakest in the group, meaning she's always the one failing. So this makes the teamwork naritive of team 7 forced since you have 1 character who generally can't contribute, and when she does, it's kind of an A-pull cough*Kaguya arc*cough.

Also, no, she's not a good ninja with what she has. Outside of medical ninjutsu, she's a taijutsu specialist. Even before she got the yin seal, she had incredible strength that could finish almost anyone in a single punch. You'd think that she'd focus her talents on taijutsu skills as well, enabling her to make use of this incredible CQB potential, but nope! We get this.

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Omoi does not belong in any known lineage. What's more, consider their teachers. Sakura was taught by Tsunade, one of the Sannin which makes her one of the greatest ninjas of the era. Her techniques are things that anybody with enough intelligence and talent can learn. Omoi had Bee, that, while incredibly skilled, has no special technique like yin seal, and gets a lot of power from the 8 tails, something exclusive to him. Tsunade can pass everything down to Sakura, while Omoi can only get some of Bee's training.



Sakura has an enormous physical advantage over Omoi, but got her but handed to her. It shows that she's terrible at applying what she has, unlike her teacher. This is why people use the shockwave argument. If Sakura cannot outright overwhelm an opponent with brute power like a mindless brute (ironic considering she's supposed to be an intellectual), she becomes a punching bag.



Sakura is an intellectual first, and a fighter last. She knows a lot, but has no skill at practical application. If Sakura spent time mastering taijutsu skills, she'd be a monster, and a great shinobi. Instead, she's little more than a brute in combat.

She's more of a Medical Shinobi than a fighter.Medical Shinobi's jobs aren't to be out on the battlefield fighting,and possibly dieing.It's too save lives,like of the Shinobi who were on the battlefield fighter. Sakura excelled at that in part 2,particularly in the war.

Her Teamwork with Naruto,and Sasuke was very spot on.So well that she even reacted to Sai's words,came up with a plan,and performed the summoning jutsu at the same time as Naruto,and Sasuke.Then she went on to support the Whole Alliance by healing everyone,while Naruto and Sasuke,the fighters,went out on the front lines,like each of them are suppoused too

Sakura continiusly supported the Alliance by healing everyone,thus saving their lives,allowing them to continue to fight,and bringing in more people to help Naruto,and Sasuke against Obito.

Remember how it took EVERYONE'S help to pull the Bijuus chakra from Obito? If there energy wasn't replinished due to Sakura,then Obito wouldn't have had the Chakra pulled out of him,and the Alliance would have lost,and everyone would be dead.

Thank You. Lana is a goddess.

Ino beats her in power too.

The only comparable moments of Ino's power against Sakura's would be in the war,where Sakura did better.I know Ino's good.I was in the Ino Appreciation thread yesterday showing my love for Ino too,but Sakura is more skilled than her.
 
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She's more of a Medical Shinobi than a fighter.Medical Shinobi's jobs aren't be out on the battlefield fighting,and possibly dieing.It's too save lives,like of the Shinobi who were on the battlefield fighter. Sakura excelled at that in part 2,particularly in the war.

I know this. However, it rarely is given the attention or importance to make it significant. (outside of trying to keep Naruto alive) It got completely crapped on when Naruto got the sun seal.


Her Teamwork with Naruto,and Sasuke was very spot on.So well that she even reacted to Sai's words,came up with a plan,and performed the summoning jutsu at the same time as Naruto,and Sasuke.

And she completely ignored those same teamates and did her own thing.

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What's more, she has no capacity to contribute for Naruto and Sasuke in combat unless they themselves are holding back.
 

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Seems about right
 
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