Sakura's Byakugou Seal Wasn't An Asspull.

[Melanin]

Yea and if I remember correctly the Anime said that that requirement was already met before Neji's death.

Well damn. I need a receipt becuase the manga contradicts that..

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[jimbobbity]

Read KGB Kakuzu's post to understand why your arguments fail. :leaf:

Sorry, those are his words. Im going by your supposed ideas of what made it an asspull are and i quote you here "Kishi should have foreshadowed it". Now i actually agree with KGB going by what he said. I dont agree with you.

To sum this up, im on the fence but im definately not leaning towards your side.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Far as I'm concerned, Sakura not being brutally killed during the war was an asspull.

 

[Melanin]

The power up was atrociously developed. The only foreshadowing that this ability had was that Sakura studied under Tsunade. That's literally it.

The ass pull isn't Sakura's ability to work and create the seal. The ass pull is the fact she isn't even hinted to have it until she conveniently needs it. She waited until half a war was over to complete this thing, and it's completed when Team 7 finally happens to reunite. It's odd she's managing to store chakra during a war when she and the rest of the world should be going all out.

It would have been like Naruto pulling out sage mode with no training or suggestion that he'd trained for it previous to him using it.

It would have been better for her to have mastered this before the war starts, or if she is to get it then, at least have several hints about her progression....


It's an ass pull in convenient timing. It's and ass pull in the revelation that she's been working on it.

It is not an ass pull that she had the potential to master the technique.

Your missing the point.. There's no training invloved, it's just mental discipline and concentration. Tsunade gave the simplest explanation of how the seal was created before she even met Sakura "I've been focusing chakra into a spot on my forehead for some time".. Part 1 Sakura had already displayed chakra control equivalent to that.. But I'll agree kishi devolped it poorly..

 

[Dannie]

It should have been pretty damn obvious that Sakura getting Byakugo(or however the hell you spell it) wasn't an asspull. If Tsunade, her teacher, has used it, then why is it so hard to believe that Sakura would awaken it?

Obito coming back to life just to give Kakashi some eyes is the pinnacle of asspulls.

 

[Dage The Evil]

Its not an asspull, it did not come out of nowhere. Is it hard to see Sakura storing chakra in her forehead when she is known to have amazing chakra control since part 1?

Yes, yes it is. As if you connected those 2 gots, Tsunade was the only one to have the Byakugou, while it was stated or implied anywhere in the manga that Sakura was storing Chakra in her forehead, A good example would be Sakura not being able to mould chakra for a while due to chakra intake to the byakugou -_-

Well damn. I need a receipt becuase the manga contradict s that..

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I see you took my post seriously, well done sir.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

It should have been pretty damn obvious that Sakura getting Byakugo(or however the hell you spell it) wasn't an asspull. If Tsunade, her teacher, has used it, then why is it so hard to believe that Sakura would awaken it?

Obito coming back to life just to give Kakashi some eyes is the pinnacle of asspulls.

Except, Obito's the coolest guy, while Sakura is some dumb ho.

 

[Melanin]

Yes, yes it is. As if you connected those 2 gots, Tsunade was the only one to have the Byakugou, while it was stated or implied anywhere in the manga that Sakura was storing Chakra in her forehead, A good example would be Sakura not being able to mould chakra for a while due to chakra intake to the byakugou -_-



I see you took my post seriously, well done sir.

I legit did bro.

Except, Obito's the coolest guy, while Sakura is some dumb ho.

Let's use our grown up words..

 

[Dage The Evil]

It should have been pretty damn obvious that Sakura getting Byakugo(or however the hell you spell it) wasn't an asspull. If Tsunade, her teacher, has used it, then why is it so hard to believe that Sakura would awaken it?

Obito coming back to life just to give Kakashi some eyes is the pinnacle of asspulls.

Going by your logic are you saying that since Orocimaru trained Sasuke, he'll be getting the Edo Tensei and Rebirth Jutsu and a whole ton of other Kinjutsu??

 

[jimbobbity]

Going by your logic are you saying that since Orocimaru trained Sasuke, he'll be getting the Edo Tensei and Rebirth Jutsu and a whole ton of other Kinjutsu??

Didnt Orochimaru just want Sasukes body? It was pretty stupid of him to even teach Sasuke that skin shedding thing. (Honestly, no clue what the jutsu is called)

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

It wasn't about being an azz pull


it took her 3 years ! 3 bloody pointless years!

 

[Dannie]

Except, Obito's the coolest guy, while Sakura is some dumb ho.

Only in Naruto's incompetent opinion.

Going by your logic are you saying that since Orocimaru trained Sasuke, he'll be getting the Edo Tensei and Rebirth Jutsu and a whole ton of other Kinjutsu??

Are you stupid?

If you would have bothered to pay attention since the start of Shippuden, you would notice that everything that Tsunade has done, Sakura has done as well. It's not hard to believe that Sakura would develop Byakugo, considering that Sakura has learned everything that involves healing and mitotic regeneration from Tsunade.

And your comparison is gay, and has nothing to do with what I just said.

 

[Darth Uchiha]

It wasn't about being an azz pull


it took her 3 years ! 3 bloody pointless years!

And she remained useless after her 3 seconds of fame...

 

[Melanin]

And she remained useless after her 3 seconds of fame...

Word: Useless

Definition: not fulfilling or not expected to achieve the intended purpose or desired outcome.

How is she useless?

 

[Darth Uchiha]

Word: Useless

Definition: not fulfilling or not expected to achieve the intended purpose or desired outcome.

How is she useless?

Contributing almost nothing and failing to die

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

She was healing for the most part in the beginning of the war. Once she was going to go into combat she was able to make the seal, storing chakra isn't much of hindrance when you are healing the wounded. You could basically say she wasnt supposed to be going all out until that moment.

Yes it was terribly developed, but that is Sakura and Kishi for you.

Now this is where I'd disagree, but more so on a personal level.

Based on her deployment and later seen moments in the war, she went as follows.

Started off in combat with Kakashi's division. Likely. as a combat medic (mixing fighting and healing as needed).

Later on before or during the night, Sakura transitions to a full blown medical position and is stationed in the medical Unit near the Second Division.

Finally, she moves with the survivors to help Naruto.


Throughout the two days, there hardly is a time to just store chakra. She is either in constant combat using chakra... or spending time healing the injured...using chakra.

Finally, the allied forces meet up with Naruto where they are focusing all of their efforts to the final fight.

The only conceivable time she could be building chakra is when she is on the full blown medical detachment. And even then only do when no one is allowed to move.

However, she arrives at the final battle just normal.

Her seal forms in the seconds after she finished dumping chakra into Naruto.

In conclusion, Sakura either just so happened to have paused her seal completion at 99.9% complete, using the time she ran towards enemies to unpause, or spent the entire war constantly dumping her chakra into people or attacks, and just happened to sideline the last whatever percent that coincidentally filled up at the point we all know.

There's no practical time for her to have been building up chakra unless she's both giving people chakra and putting it into her seal st the same time.

Which I personally feel is rather stupid. Why bother having her take two days slowly building such a huge battle boost when you could tap a shoulder and tell someone, "cover me for like 3 hours, and I'll suddenly 20fold my chakra levels and combat power."

But... as you noted, unfortunately Kishimoto and reasonable development just didn't happen for her. Thus, we're stuck where she completes her seal at a time period in which is ludicrously convenient, and begs the question as to why it didn't happen or be hinted at (other than having Tsunade as a master) sooner.

Only in Naruto's incompetent opinion.


Are you stupid?

If you would have bothered to pay attention since the start of Shippuden, you would notice that everything that Tsunade has done, Sakura has done as well. It's not hard to believe that Sakura would develop Byakugo, considering that Sakura has learned everything that involves healing and mitotic regeneration from Tsunade.

And your comparison is gay, and has nothing to do with what I just said.

The difference is the skill level. Sakura has done things Tsunade has shown sure, but not as well as Tsunade does them. For example, the healing of Shikamaru.

Sakura clearly showed she had the skill to help him (the guy was saved because of her effort). But Tsunade was able to effortlessly fix what Sakura was barely managing to maintain.


For Sakura to complete Tsunade's master medical technique with zero foreshadow is simply poor development.

It's something you can see her to easily learn, but not within the time frame (primarily due to the circumstance of a full blown war) to suddenly master without a droplet of suggestion she's been working on it.

 

[jimbobbity]

And she remained useless after her 3 seconds of fame...

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Inb4 he responds with a Sakura fail montage.

 

[RedRobin]

It is just strange that few chapters before when Naruto was dieing she had only had 'little chakra left' to cut open his chest .... but some chapters later she suddenly had enough to release the seal, summon a huge Katsuya, heal shit ton of people, supply Obito with chakra etc precisely when a new Sanin parallel was required. That is far too convinient. I imagine if she had that much chakra she could have used already stored chakra to keep Naruto alive using more reliable methods that didn't involve shoving dirt stained hand inside his chest. Which kinda infers Sakura's power up while plausible was unplanned.

Naruto's death happens after she awakens her seal...

 

[Anorien16]

Naruto's death happens after she awakens her seal...

Sorry then ... finally getting old I guess.

Still there is discrepancy though ... at Naruto's death she had only little chakra left but after which she somehow managed to give Obito sufficient chakra among other things.

 

[Dage The Evil]

Only in Naruto's incompetent opinion.


Are you stupid?

If you would have bothered to pay attention since the start of Shippuden, you would notice that everything that Tsunade has done, Sakura has done as well. It's not hard to believe that Sakura would develop Byakugo, considering that Sakura has learned everything that involves healing and mitotic regeneration from Tsunade.

And your comparison is gay, and has nothing to do with what I just said.

Yes you're right i didn't bother to pay attention. Only because Sakura was so useless, had Kishi developped Sakura better I may have noticed.

My comparison is gay? I'm gonna assume it's because I put "Orochimaru(A Male) and Sasuke(A Male)" together, In that case, your comparison is lesbian.