Sakura vs Zabuza

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Shockwaves from her punch easily disperses the mist. Did you see the size of that crater she made?
Shockwaves aren't going to "easily" disperse the mist. It may disperse the mist momentarily around her for a little bit, but the mist is going to move back in. And what if she does disperse the mist for a little bit? So what? Zabuza is much faster than her and even if she's really strong, Zabuza is still really strong too and he has a lot more skill in CQC. Sakura won't be able to land a hit, she's going to have to dodge Zabuza's Kubikiribocho. He was a Swordsman after all. Plus, since he's faster, Sakura more than likely won't even have the time to summon Katsuyu. Kakashi had the time to summon his dogs because he was equal speed as Zabuza. Sakura is slower.

Well Zabusa can take this if he uses his silent assassination and mist techniques properly but otherwise Sakura gets this....
Of course he is going to use his silent assassination and mist techniques properly, it's his main moves and he was famous for them.

Katsuyu >>>>> Water Dragon.
The shockwaves from her punches might not be able to clear up the entir mist, but it would pretty much blow away the mist around her.
Regardeless, there's nothing he can do to possibly stand up to Katsuyu (if it comes to that).
When did I ever say Water Dragon Jutsu could take out Katsuyu? I said since the Water Dragon is around the same height and is a long range accurate Suiton, he could at least knock Sakura off Katsuyu, it's not like she is attached to Katsuyu. Zabuza is faster than Sakura anyways so she probably wouldn't even have the time to summon the slug.

To me, the issue is whether she has a good enough reaction time. If part 1 Kakashi could react faster, then Part 2 Sakura could very possibly do the same thing. Byakagou is the tipping point for me, not Katsuyu
Part 2 Sakura's reactions don't even come close to Part 1 Kakashi's. Part 1 Kakashi is STILL faster than Sakura according to the data books and on top of that has a 3 tomoe Sharingan to enhance his reflexes and read Zabuza'smovements. Sakura no way in hell can react to Zabuza.



All of the sudden people think now Sakura is like S-rank tier.....she isn't
 

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Shockwaves aren't going to "easily" disperse the mist. It may disperse the mist momentarily around her for a little bit, but the mist is going to move back in. And what if she does disperse the mist for a little bit? So what? Zabuza is much faster than her and even if she's really strong, Zabuza is still really strong too and he has a lot more skill in CQC. Sakura won't be able to land a hit, she's going to have to dodge Zabuza's Kubikiribocho. He was a Swordsman after all. Plus, since he's faster, Sakura more than likely won't even have the time to summon Katsuyu. Kakashi had the time to summon his dogs because he was equal speed as Zabuza. Sakura is slower.
His sword will be useless in this fight. When he goes to swing it at her she can smash it into pieces...then what? His main weapon and fighting style is gone; and since Sakura has Katsuyu as well he is going to have dodge attacks from both Sakura and Katsuyu eventually leading to either him getting 1 shot with her punch or dissolving via Katsuyu's acid. Keep in mind Sakura can also regenerate cells due to her seal and Katsuyu can also make slug clones of any size capable of tanking any attaks from Zabuza.
 

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His sword will be useless in this fight. When he goes to swing it at her she can smash it into pieces...then what? His main weapon and fighting style is gone; and since Sakura has Katsuyu as well he is going to have dodge attacks from both Sakura and Katsuyu eventually leading to either him getting 1 shot with her punch or dissolving via Katsuyu's acid. Keep in mind Sakura can also regenerate cells due to her seal and Katsuyu can also make slug clones of any size capable of tanking any attaks from Zabuza.
He doesn't need his Kubikiribocho/Kenjutsu. According to the data books, he has a 4.5/5 for Taijutsu. In part 1 Kabuto was dodging punches from Tsunade. Zabuza is superior in CQC than Kabuto was and Tsunade was superior to Sakura in CQC in part 1 than Sakura is right now. Fill in the blanks, this means Zabuza will have absolutely no problem avoiding Sakura's punches and will be able to fight back.

You're assuming Sakura will have the time to summon Katsuyu when Zabuza is faster than her. You're also disregarding the fact that the mist will move back in after Sakura hits the ground, if that even disperses the mist for a little bit.

When the mist is up, how is Sakura and Katsuyu going to hit Zabuza? Katsuyu's acid attacks require aiming, which she can't do because she can't see Zabuza and Sakura's Byakugou won't be effective because she can't land a hit on Zabuza either due to her not being able to find Zabuza.

If she stands on top of Katsuyu to try to avoid the mist, Zabuza could use Water Dragon Jutsu to knock her off. I provided a scan in this thread on the first page of how tall Water Dragon is. It has roughly the same height as Katsuyu and is very wide so it more than likely can knock Sakura off. Not saying it will defeat Katsuyu but once Sakura is off Katsuyu and in the mist, Silent Killing ends her.
 

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When did I ever say Water Dragon Jutsu could take out Katsuyu? I said since the Water Dragon is around the same height and is a long range accurate Suiton, he could at least knock Sakura off Katsuyu, it's not like she is attached to Katsuyu. Zabuza is faster than Sakura anyways so she probably wouldn't even have the time to summon the slug.
That suiton isn't near in size to Katsuyu: this is the and this is . She has one of the best durability feats in the manga, she won't shake more than she did when Manda and Tsunade didn't fall... And every ninja can attach to the ground by using their chakra, climbing trees, walk on water, etc...
Zabuza is faster, yes, and she excels at dodging. He would never get her easily, specially since even fodder Sakura was able to react (although at that time she didn't have the means to counter attack), plus, and its over (the debris obviously kills him seeing as only giant clones appeared after that).
 

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Madara dispersed the mist by The shockwawes of Foddera chan's punch are more than capable of dispersing the mist.
You're comparing Mei's mist getting expersed by Madara's complete Susanoo to Sakura punching the ground? Even if he did disperse it it wouldn't disperse all of it and will fill in again

That suiton isn't near in size to Katsuyu: this is the and this is . She has one of the best durability feats in the manga, she won't shake more than she did when Manda and Tsunade didn't fall... And every ninja can attach to the ground by using their chakra, climbing trees, walk on water, etc...
Zabuza is faster, yes, and she excels at dodging. He would never get her easily, specially since even fodder Sakura was able to react (although at that time she didn't have the means to counter attack), plus, and its over (the debris obviously kills him seeing as only giant clones appeared after that).
How do u still not get this?? I said the HEIGHT compares not the whole size u idiot. And of coure Tsunade didn't fall, why would a snake HOLDING KATSUYU STILL made Tsunade fall?? Zabuza will aim the dragon AT SAKURA and hit her off. It's a huge blow of power, not holding the slug in place.....like obviously

Fodder Sakura was never able to react. As Kakashi explained silent killing, it showed a flash back of Zabuza silently killing a tokubetsu jounin and the tokubetsu jounin couldnt react so no way Sakura could.
 

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What happens if Sakura punches the water dragon or Katsuyu spits acid at it? On top of that.. Zabuza had to do all 42 hand seals to use that tech.. You seriously think his enemies would just leave him open like that In the anime it took at least 12 seconds.
 

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How do u still not get this?? I said the HEIGHT compares not the whole size u idiot. And of coure Tsunade didn't fall, why would a snake HOLDING KATSUYU STILL made Tsunade fall?? Zabuza will aim the dragon AT SAKURA and hit her off. It's a huge blow of power, not holding the slug in place.....like obviously

Fodder Sakura was never able to react. As Kakashi explained silent killing, it showed a flash back of Zabuza silently killing a tokubetsu jounin and the tokubetsu jounin couldnt react so no way Sakura could.
Manda's impact >>> Zabuza's Water Dragon.
Kakashi (who doesn't have affinity for Suiton) copied and performed the jutsu at the same time as Zabuza and they cancelled each other, perfectly, for the first time and with the same power. His Suiton isn't strong enough just to keep Katsuyu occupied.
You think she will let Sakura be hit?
I'm pretty sure current Sakura >>>>> fodder tokubetsu jonin...
 

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What happens if Sakura punches the water dragon or Katsuyu spits acid at it? On top of that.. Zabuza had to do all 42 hand seals to use that tech.. You seriously think his enemies would just leave him open like that In the anime it took at least 12 seconds.
Zabuza can perform the seals in the mist, he has a 4/5 for hand seals and that is the second highest in the whole Akatsuki, right behind Itachi. The anime made it look slower, but in the manga Sasuke noted it took seconds to use it. Zabuza is also faster so you're assuming Sakura will summon Katsuyu. Zabuza will have the time to perform the Suiton in the mist.

Manda's impact >>> Zabuza's Water Dragon.
Kakashi (who doesn't have affinity for Suiton) copied and performed the jutsu at the same time as Zabuza and they cancelled each other, perfectly, for the first time and with the same power. His Suiton isn't strong enough just to keep Katsuyu occupied.
You think she will let Sakura be hit?
I'm pretty sure current Sakura >>>>> fodder tokubetsu jonin...
You are honestly retarded. No wonder why u think Darui beats Zabuza, u just can't understand logic and overestimate Part 2 characters.

Manada's impact was holding still Katsuyu, not striking Katsuyu with great force like Water Dragon Jutsu would. How can Sakura fall if Katsuyu is being held tight for she can't even move? it's the opposite actually. Deal with it.

Who cares if Kakashi copied it perfectly? He has Sharingan and is a great ninja. That doesn't mean Zabuza's Suiton aren't strong enough, and they don't even have to be. Zabuza just has to use it to hit Katsuyu's head, the water from the Sution will wash Sakura off or the impact of it will cause Sakura to lose her balance. Katsuyu isn't even fast enough to avoid it.

And did I compare Part 2 Sakura with a tokubetsu Chuunin or Part 1 Sakura with a tokubetsu Jounin? I compared Part 1 Sakura so how about u read better instead of talking ignorant
 

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Katsuyu is massive. It will tower over the mist. Katsuyu spits acid in multiple directions. Zabuza forced to come out, and acid melted.
Like honestly all your arguments are speculation and u always say the opponent against Zabuza can use their techs randomly and beat him. Like u said Darui could spam Black Panthers in every direction and hit Zabuza, such a weak argument.

So Katsuyu will spit acid which is a narrow move randomly and cover the WHOLE battlefield and hit Zabuza? That's just pathetic and definitely won't happen. Zabuza will use Water Dragon Jusu to knock or flood Sakura off Katsuyu's head and into the mist, where Zabuza will silent kill her
 

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Hah. Your fanboyism never fails to amaze me. Water Dragon that took around 50 hand seals to perform. Katsuyu splits into millions of slugs which search the battlefield. Shoot acid whne found - Zabuza dead.
 

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Like honestly all your arguments are speculation and u always say the opponent against Zabuza can use their techs randomly and beat him. Like u said Darui could spam Black Panthers in every direction and hit Zabuza, such a weak argument.

So Katsuyu will spit acid which is a narrow move randomly and cover the WHOLE battlefield and hit Zabuza? That's just pathetic and definitely won't happen. Zabuza will use Water Dragon Jusu to knock or flood Sakura off Katsuyu's head and into the mist, where Zabuza will silent kill her
Too bad Zabuza's tiny water dragon can't reach Sakura in Katsuyu's head.
 

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Hah. Your fanboyism never fails to amaze me. Water Dragon that took around 50 hand seals to perform. Katsuyu splits into millions of slugs which search the battlefield. Shoot acid whne found - Zabuza dead.
He can perform them in the mist. It took 42. Sasuke noted it took him seconds to perform, it's not like Zabuza can't perform it. He is faster than Sakura so he would have the time. "Millions" of slugs...can u provide a scan that suggests Katsuyu can split into millions? Also, even if she split into slugs and had them search the whole battle field, Zabuza could definitely see them as they get close and clear them with Giant Vortex Jutsu or at least enough to get to Sakura.

Sakura definitely has a chance, but Zabuza's winning more times out of 10. He has way more experience and Sakura's only hope is summoning Katsuyu, and she may not have the time to do so.

Too bad Zabuza's tiny water dragon can't reach Sakura in Katsuyu's head.
Actually they are roughly the same height and it's a long range jutsu so it can reach Katsuyu's head no problem.

Sorry troll
 

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if intel in manga sakura wins

reason

zabuza forms mist

sakura knowing she cant keep up with him in that situation summons Katsuyu allowing her to be out of the mist


At this point zabuza cant win as he cant get to her. If he trys Katsuyu could tell her and she could kill him in a exchange.

If there is not water present then zabuza would be be able to do vortex

Dragon can be tanked by Katsuyu + sakura can smash the ground to give her cover
 

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if intel in manga sakura wins

reason

zabuza forms mist

sakura knowing she cant keep up with him in that situation summons Katsuyu allowing her to be out of the mist


At this point zabuza cant win as he cant get to her. If he trys Katsuyu could tell her and she could kill him in a exchange.

If there is not water present then zabuza would be be able to do vortex

Dragon can be tanked by Katsuyu + sakura can smash the ground to give her cover
Good explanation. But about the Dragon, it's not meant to beat Katsuyu. The Dragon is big enough to hit Katsuyu's head to cause Sakura to fall off Katsuyu and into the mist. Or, if the force isn't great enough, there's enough water in the Dragon to wash Sakura off Katsuyu. Sakura off Katsuyu will fall to Silent Killing
 
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