Sakura vs Tsunade

[Exaar]

What do you think of the speed feats me and KG posted? Does Tsunade have speed feats comparable to this?

Not to mention the mathematical and physics genius of NB posted this:

I do not trust nor think these mathematical/physic calcs hold any real value.

The manga is not drawn to scale all the time, Depending on the angle its hard to determine the actual distances and nor does the manga follow physics.

If the manga its self is at fault, The maths or any calculations based of it will be false/inaccurate also

Pretty sure Sakura is very intelligent and knowledgeable on medical ninjutsu and should have more knowledge on BPD than Kabuto did especially since the OP stipulates Sakura has full intel along with Tsunade. It wasn't implied you have to have Kabuto level intelligence and experience to counter such a jutsu.

Well I agree if BPD comes in it is GG for Sakura because it'll take a few seconds at least to become mobile again but landing a punch is much easier than BPD. Moreover, BPD is restricted so I don't see why there is such a heated debate on this topic.

I'm not saying she isn't intelligent. She is very intelligent when it comes the Medical side of things and she is also very book smart.

All i'm trying to get across it that sakura is hardly a quick thinker when it comes to combat. It's not just raw intelligence i'm doubting but her ability to think extremely quickly.

 

[Rιver]

What do you think of the speed feats me and KG posted? Does Tsunade have speed feats comparable to this?

Not to mention the mathematical and physics genius of NB posted this:



So basically Sakura is approximately 150 000 times faster than Tsunade.



Pretty sure Sakura is very intelligent and knowledgeable on medical ninjutsu and should have more knowledge on BPD than Kabuto did especially since the OP stipulates Sakura has full intel along with Tsunade. It wasn't implied you have to have Kabuto level intelligence and experience to counter such a jutsu.

Well I agree if BPD comes in it is GG for Sakura because it'll take a few seconds at least to become mobile again but landing a punch is much easier than BPD. Moreover, BPD is restricted so I don't see why there is such a heated debate on this topic.

Not sure if this is a serious post, but Rainbow Dash did that for purely to troll. Distorting space does not require such speeds, nor does he have any proof of this. Anything bends space. Even the finger I'm moving while posting this post are bending space, however the effect matters naught.

Furthermore, relativistic is not a set speed. The 10% was ripped of from air. Relativistic is speed in which you, the observer are moving, approaching the speed of light. Relativistic only describes the significant portion of that said speed.

Gai distorting space cannot be measured that easily and it's almost impossible. You need his mass, the extent he bent space, the AoE, the malleability of Madara's staff etc. We all also know that Sakura is nowhere close to Gai's speed.​

 

[Waltz]

So basically Sakura is approximately 150 000 times faster than Tsunade.

Since Sakura is a better medical ninja than part 1 Kabuto she would be able to figure out faster that her nerves were shocked up and overcome it.

Distortion of Space requires at least relativistic speeds. Relativistic speeds start at 10% of the speed of light, which would be 29,979,245.8 meters per second. Gai is at least this fast, which would mean that the hand things we saw this chapter are also this fast.

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[Waltz]

OT: The mere fact Tsunade needs restrictions already denotes she is naturally the stronger of the two. I'll agree that Tsunade wins this for the general reason given especially certain portions by 'InvisibleMan' and 'Drae'.

@ PawsX: The method to understanding the effect of Tsunade's 'Body Pathway Derangement Jutsu' is by attempting to move limbs of the body; something that does not require medical knowledge of any sort and can be equally done by any individual. To best the Jutsu however, would require intelligence to associate 'desired movement' with 'actual movement'----then the memory and concentration to both accurately and continuously associate the two to produce the movement desired. Neither of which requires any extensive anatomical and physiological knowledge on the human body and can once again be done by any individual with the intellectual capacity to do so.
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[RedRobin]

OT: The mere fact Tsunade needs restrictions already denotes she is naturally the stronger of the two. I'll agree that Tsunade wins this for the general reason given especially certain portions by 'InvisibleMan' and 'Drae'.

@ PawsX: The method to understanding the effect of Tsunade's 'Body Pathway Derangement Jutsu' is by attempting to move limbs of the body; something that does not require medical knowledge of any sort and can be equally done by any individual. To best the Jutsu however, would require intelligence to associate 'desired movement' with 'actual movement'----then the memory and concentration to both accurately and continuously associate the two to produce the movement desired. Neither of which requires any extensive anatomical and physiological knowledge on the human body and can once again be done by any individual with the intellectual capacity to do so.
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No. You would need some sort of medical knowledge of the body.

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Kabuto first thought it was his muscles then deduced it was the nervous system. Anyone without special knowledge of the human body wont have any idea what is going on with their body and without knowing what is going on they cannot formulate a plan to counter it.

I'm not saying she isn't intelligent. She is very intelligent when it comes the Medical side of things and she is also very book smart.

All i'm trying to get across it that sakura is hardly a quick thinker when it comes to combat. It's not just raw intelligence i'm doubting but her ability to think extremely quickly.

She has very quick thinking as shown when she gave herself the antidote and formulated a plan to destroy the third Kazekage puppet by a trap seconds before Sasori's attack hit.

 

[Icelerate]

I do not trust nor think these mathematical/physic calcs hold any real value.

The manga is not drawn to scale all the time, Depending on the angle its hard to determine the actual distances and nor does the manga follow physics.

If the manga its self is at fault, The maths or any calculations based of it will be false/inaccurate also







I'm not saying she isn't intelligent. She is very intelligent when it comes the Medical side of things and she is also very book smart.

All i'm trying to get across it that sakura is hardly a quick thinker when it comes to combat. It's not just raw intelligence i'm doubting but her ability to think extremely quickly.

I was just joking about the calculations but generally Sakura's speed feats in the Kaguya fight seem to be of a greater value than Tsunade's speed feats during the edo Madara VS 5 kage fight. Hell even

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shown in that particular fight. Just

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in this thread to get an overview of what I'm saying.

BPD is restricted but regardless Sakura managed to react to Kaguya coming at her through her linear upward flight speed so if Tsunade reaches out to grab Sakura, Sakura parries Tsunade's arm with her fist.

 

[Made in Heaven]

Tsuna still wrecks. Anyone who claims otherwise is just being retarded. Sad truth

 

[Power Bottom]

Why restrict BPD. it's not like tsunade can land it.

 

[Waltz]

No. You would need some sort of medical knowledge of the body.

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Kabuto first thought it was his muscles then deduced it was the nervous system. Anyone without special knowledge of the human body wont have any idea what is going on with their body and without knowing what is going on they cannot formulate a plan to counter it.

There is no 'need', PawsX.

In this case, being knowledgeable of whether or not it's caused by nervous system is irrelevant to understanding the effect the jutsu has on the body/what is going on with ones body while under the effect of the jutsu. Here's why: Prior to kabuto mentioning anything about the nervous system, he had already deciphered the effects of the Jutsu; that 'actual body movement' was not the 'desired body movement' and doing so did not require any 'medical' reference. Since he already realized that attempting to move an arm resulted in movements in the leg all it took for him to overcome the effects of the jutsu were as highlighted below:

-> Intelligence
-> Memory
-> Concentration

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Once more having nothing to do with vast medical knowledge. Kabuto's medical knowledge only played apart in precisely explaining (not understanding) the effect Tsunade's Jutsu has on the Human body. ​

 

[Sennin of Logic]

Tsunade. She's they're essentially the same, but the difference is that Tsunade has a 5 in taijutsu skill. So yeah, Tsunade wins.

 

[Icelerate]

1. Sakura has a decent speed advantage over Tsunade for various reasons.

2. Another important concept to note is about hit box. Tsunade has a larger hitbox because she is taller and larger than Sakura which means Sakura can hit Tsunade more easily than viceversa.

3. Another point to note is temperament. Both Sakura and Tsunade are pretty hot headed fighters which make them somewhat reckless but Sakura is more calm and collected compared to her master. In that regard Sakura will be more cautious and analytic in her approach while Tsunade will be more direct and aggressive. In another manga called Akame Ga Kiru, being aggressive and fierce caused a guy named Tobi to get stomped by Akame because Tobi was being

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while Akame was calm and reserved during the fight. What I said is an example from another manga but this is true in Naruto as well considering Tsunade herself took hits from Kabuto while Kabuto managed to avoid Tsunade's for exactly the same reason.

 

[Joseph Gomes]

After reading the recent chapter, Tsunade stomps

Sakura will forget how to breath out of jealousy when she'll she Tsunade's melons during fight

 

[Power Bottom]

After reading the recent chapter, Tsunade stomps

Sakura will forget how to breath out of jealousy when she'll she Tsunade's melons during fight

What the hell?

 

[Bogard]

Tsunade should win this. Sakura may have more raw power, but her base stats are weak compared to Tsunade's

 

[Draegod]

Tsunade should win this. Sakura may have more raw power, but her base stats are weak compared to Tsunade's

Raw? never! We never seen Tsunade go full all out power like Sakura punching the ground with all her force and might. Tsunade actually focus her hits on the target rather then the environment that will not kill a single elite.