[VS] Sakura takes the Sasuke/Naruto gauntlet

[Sennin of Logic]

Stops FRS Naruto if even that. Pre-Hebi Sasuke also>Sakura.

 

[Icelerate]

Clone feints cover that problem.

If he uses a similar tatic as he did against kakuzu i don't see why it wouldn't work.

You mean attacking from

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, I'm afraid that isn't going to work as Sakura doesn't even need to hit the clones directly or see it to destroy them. Also I don't see why Kakuzu didn't stop

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at this point, probably because Yamato and Kakashi were capable of countering whatever Kakuzu could have used to attack Naruto so instead he waited until Naruto got close.

 

[Hokage Jay]

Clears it....

Worst Troll ever

 

[Exaar]

You mean attacking from

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, I'm afraid that isn't going to work as Sakura doesn't even need to hit the clones directly or see it to destroy them.

You didn't really explain why an attack from behind will not work. Unless she punches the ground immediately upon seeing the jutsu (asuuming info is given). Even if she does she still doesn't know about Clones sneaking behind her or anything.

if info is given, Then naruto knows of her strength, Clone feints while keeping his real body at a safe distance works fine. Her punching the ground makes sakura lose vision and the ability to track clones, Also covers the area is rocks, Something naruto's clones can capitalize on via transforming clones into rocks and use it as a sneak attack to restrain her for long enough for RS attack to work.

Assuming no info is given, sakura would really have no reason to immediately stop the attack since she knows nothing of it's power. let alone to ground pound right from the get go, Since she hardly capitalized on ground pound against madara (would of been far more effective than what she actually did) and opted to attack him directly.

 

[Draphsin]

She isn't surviving pre-hebi sasuke, sharingan cripples her.

 

[Icelerate]

You didn't really explain why an attack from behind will not work. Unless she punches the ground immediately upon seeing the jutsu (asuuming info is given). Even if she does she still doesn't know about Clones sneaking behind her or anything.

if info is given, Then naruto knows of her strength, Clone feints while keeping his real body at a safe distance works fine. Her punching the ground makes sakura lose vision and the ability to track clones, Also covers the area is rocks, Something naruto's clones can capitalize on via transforming clones into rocks and use it as a sneak attack to restrain her for long enough for RS attack to work.

Assuming no info is given, sakura would really have no reason to immediately stop the attack since she knows nothing of it's power. let alone to ground pound right from the get go, Since she hardly capitalized on ground pound against madara (would of been far more effective than what she actually did) and opted to attack him directly.

Sakura's already seen Naruto fight Kakuzu and knows all about FRS and his clone feints so that point is moot. Against Madara it would be useless since Madara is eons more durable than base Naruto and even moreso than Naruto clones. Not to mention Madara can dodge her attacks easily, unlike early Shippuden Naruto. Also Naruto and Sasuke were right next to her while here she is fighting all alone. Sakura's shown to use ground pound strategy against a mob of enemies which Naruto likes creating. The debris will block Sakura's vision but it does the same to Naruto and his clones.

Anyway the clones would get destroyed so Naruto isn't getting behind her. He is also not restraining her for an FRS to land considering he doesn't have the strength feats in base to do this. I remember you saying Tsunade has her chances against SM Naruto even though she gets stomped even with current Sakura's support so how is Sakura losing to a character tiers weaker than SM Naruto when Sakura herself is slightly below Tsunade's level?

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[Rike Senju]

She stops at Pre-Hebi sasuke. No way is she clearing this gauntlet.

 

[Exaar]

Sakura's already seen Naruto fight Kakuzu and knows all about FRS and his clone feints so that point is moot. Against Madara it would be useless since Madara is eons more durable than base Naruto and even moreso than Naruto clones. Not to mention Madara can dodge her attacks easily, unlike early Shippuden Naruto. Also Naruto and Sasuke were right next to her while here she is fighting all alone. Sakura's shown to use ground pound strategy against a mob of enemies which Naruto likes creating. The debris will block Sakura's vision but it does the same to Naruto and his clones.

Anyway the clones would get destroyed so Naruto isn't getting behind her. He is also not restraining her for an FRS to land considering he doesn't have the strength feats in base to do this. I remember you saying Tsunade has her chances against SM Naruto even though she gets stomped even with current Sakura's support so how is Sakura losing to a character tiers weaker than SM Naruto when Sakura herself is slightly below Tsunade's level?

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Knowing about it =/= Being able to counter.

Also the point of Sakura's attack wasn't to do damage but to create a distraction, Hence why i said her ground pound would of been more effective than her attacking directly.
Yes i know it would effect naruto's clones vision also, thats why i said him using transformation jutsu like he did with pein and take advantage of sakura's lack of vision.

I still fail to see how he isn't getting behind her, Unless she has some sensor feats i have failed to notice, her ground pound alone isn't stopping clones sneaking behind her if she doesn't know they're there in the first place.

As for naruto not restraining sakura, Her strength is quite overrated. Most of sakura's destructive power come her her chakra, Not her brute physical strength (unlike tsunade). Tsunade has both Chakra enhanced strength and immense physical strength.
According to the 3rd databooks which if i remember right were taken around around the point of Itachi vs sasuke, Sakura scores a 3 in strength and base naruto scored a 3.5.

I do not believe that sakura is "Slightly below tsunades level". She has tsunades strength/seal but she lacks overall skill and experience that tsunade brings. She still has quite away to go to get close to tsunades level.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Stop at Hebi Sasuke.

 

[Optimistic]

She loses to Pre Hebi Sasuke. 1 scan solos any argument made for Sakura.

 

[GodKage]

she wins none of them

 

[Icelerate]

Knowing about it =/= Being able to counter.

Also the point of Sakura's attack wasn't to do damage but to create a distraction, Hence why i said her ground pound would of been more effective than her attacking directly.\

What is your point? It not being effective against Madara doesn't mean it won't be effective against FRS Naruto. Whatever then Sakura charges at Naruto as he is prepping FRS and kills him before FRS is prepped since FRS takes time to charge. Also logically speaking, Sakura knows it is a dangerous jutsu so punch to the ground ends whatever Naruto is prepping and kills him as well.

Yes i know it would effect naruto's clones vision also, thats why i said him using transformation jutsu like he did with pein and take advantage of sakura's lack of vision.

How does he take advantage of this when base Naruto himself isn't a sensor unlike SM Naruto? Naruto's clones get one shotted so they aren't taking advantage of Sakura's lack of vision and using a transformation since them being transformed means they won't be able to dodge the AoE nor tank it.

I still fail to see how he isn't getting behind her, Unless she has some sensor feats i have failed to notice, her ground pound alone isn't stopping clones sneaking behind her if she doesn't know they're there in the first place.

Not really she doesn't need to see them to deal damage to them. The attack would still effect what is behind Sakura or what is beside her without her having to look at Naruto and his clones. Sakura doesn't need to be a sensor to tell Naruto is trying to get behind her, she still has her eyes. Not to mention Katsuyu which can split into many clones watching her blind spots.

As for naruto not restraining sakura, Her strength is quite overrated. Most of sakura's destructive power come her her chakra, Not her brute physical strength (unlike tsunade). Tsunade has both Chakra enhanced strength and immense physical strength.
According to the 3rd databooks which if i remember right were taken around around the point of Itachi vs sasuke, Sakura scores a 3 in strength and base naruto scored a 3.5.

I don't want to get into a pointless debate but Sakura also has her feat to destroy any Naruto clones that try to grab her. Not that they can get close to her in the first place. Furthermore, Sakura with Yin seal is going to be a lot stronger than base Naruto's 3.5 when EP2 Sakura was already 3.0 without enhancements. Her not having naturally strong strength like Tsunade's doesn't mean her strength now is far above what it was in the beginning of Shippuden. The yin seal

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I do not believe that sakura is "Slightly below tsunades level". She has tsunades strength/seal but she lacks overall skill and experience that tsunade brings. She still has quite away to go to get close to tsunades level.

Lacking skill and experience doesn't make much of a difference when the manga is almost over and Sakura is supposed to eventually surpass Tsunade. If she has Tsunade's abilities, which according to you, allow her to fight on par with SM Naruto who is vastly superior to FRS Naruto, then Sakura with those same abilities stomps FRS Naruto since the manga has shown that gap in skill and experience doesn't mean much.

 

[Chīkara]

Stops at VOTE Sasuke.

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[TheEvilOne]

Stops at pre Hebi Sasuke. But I agree with Icelerate, she beats FRS Nardo.

 

[Chīkara]

Location of this fight ?

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[Exaar]

Not really she doesn't need to see them to deal damage to them. The attack would still effect what is behind Sakura or what is beside her without her having to look at Naruto and his clones. Sakura doesn't need to be a sensor to tell Naruto is trying to get behind her, she still has her eyes. Not to mention Katsuyu which can split into many clones watching her blind spots.

Yes because she had Eyes at the back of her head.

The whole point of the tatic is to keep your opponent focusing on the Clones/Real body in front, not to allow them to obverse their surroundings as they please.

Also if sakura does indeed summon katasuyu and have her split, That leaves sakura pretty much open to gamabunta's attacks.

I don't want to get into a pointless debate but Sakura also has her feat to destroy any Naruto clones that try to grab her. Not that they can get close to her in the first place. Furthermore, Sakura with Yin seal is going to be a lot stronger than base Naruto's 3.5 when EP2 Sakura was already 3.0 without enhancements. Her not having naturally strong strength like Tsunade's doesn't mean her strength now is far above what it was in the beginning of Shippuden. The yin seal

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Unless sakura is ground pounding 24/7, I highly doubt naruto's clones aren't getting near her.

Link Databook or manga page that states Yin seal directly effects physical strength.

Lacking skill and experience doesn't make much of a difference when the manga is almost over and Sakura is supposed to eventually surpass Tsunade. If she has Tsunade's abilities, which according to you, allow her to fight on par with SM Naruto who is vastly superior to FRS Naruto, then Sakura with those same abilities stomps FRS Naruto since the manga has shown that gap in skill and experience doesn't mean much.

Thats like saying Base naruto is/was on par with Minato (minus FTG) because they share a fighting style that revolves around Rasengan and clone combo's, Despite obvious gap is skill and fighting ability.

Tsunade has Mastered both Nin and Tai, Sakura hasn't come close to mastering them. Tsunade also has better speed feats and better Shunshin feats.
She also beats her in all around intelligence both battle and medical.

She also still surpassed sakura is overall medical Ninjutsu, Sakura (with kyuubi cloak) was healing shikamaru for quite awhile, While naruto and sasuke were fighting juubi jin obito, Tsunade steps in, Healing him in a few seconds with just 1 hand.

 

[Icelerate]

Yes because she had Eyes at the back of her head.

The whole point of the tatic is to keep your opponent focusing on the Clones/Real body in front, not to allow them to obverse their surroundings as they please.

Naruto will start infront of her so he can't randomly get behind her without her knowing about it. Not to mention punch to the ground destroys Naruto's clones and kills Naruto whether he is behind her or in front of her.

Also if sakura does indeed summon katasuyu and have her split, That leaves sakura pretty much open to gamabunta's attacks.

Gamabunta is restricted, Naruto and Sasuke's summons are restricted in the OP. Also before Naruto tamed the Kyubbi and before sage mode, his chakra control was crap and doesn't have any feats allowing him to summon Gamabunta.

Unless sakura is ground pounding 24/7, I highly doubt naruto's clones aren't getting near her.

Pointless since Naruto will be long dead before he can come near her. Even if he does, what is preventing Sakura from smacking him away? Also your FRS strategy assumes Naruto has full knowledge on current Sakura when in fact he doesn't.

Link Databook or manga page that states Yin seal directly effects physical strength.

No such databook page exists we'll have to wait when the manga is over and the 4th databook is released. Although it doesn't change my scenario or the counter to your scenario.

Thats like saying Base naruto is/was on par with Minato (minus FTG) because they share a fighting style that revolves around Rasengan and clone combo's, Despite obvious gap is skill and fighting ability.

Tsunade has Mastered both Nin and Tai, Sakura hasn't come close to mastering them. Tsunade also has better speed feats and better Shunshin feats.
She also beats her in all around intelligence both battle and medical.

She also still surpassed sakura is overall medical Ninjutsu, Sakura (with kyuubi cloak) was healing shikamaru for quite awhile, While naruto and sasuke were fighting juubi jin obito, Tsunade steps in, Healing him in a few seconds with just 1 hand.

Tsunade had a 3.5 in speed while Sakura had a 3.0, chances are current Sakura has the same speed as Tsunade. Sure Tsunade will have greater mental/physical reaction but the gap between SM Naruto and FRS Naruto is much much bigger. Minato and Naruto are irrelevant but Naruto with kage bunshin + FTG would be far above base Minato. 3 tomoe + CS2 Sasuke forced Itachi to use MS despite Itachi being more skilled and experienced. Tsunade praises Sakura in that instance since Sakura had paved the way for Tsunade to completely heal him. Tsunade's skill in non combat medical ninjutsu is irrelevant in the difference between their overall abilities though.

 

[FemmeFatale]

I would say all, regeneration is too op, and sm. runs out before her seal, plus she outsmarts Naruto.

 

[Chīkara]

I would say all, regeneration is too op, and sm. runs out before her seal, plus she outsmarts Naruto.

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[Exaar]

Naruto will start infront of her so he can't randomly get behind her without her knowing about it. Not to mention punch to the ground destroys Naruto's clones and kills Naruto whether he is behind her or in front of her.

He was able to do it against Kakuzu, I see no reason why sakura is a different story.

Pointless since Naruto will be long dead before he can come near her. Even if he does, what is preventing Sakura from smacking him away? Also your FRS strategy assumes Naruto has full knowledge on current Sakura when in fact he doesn't.

Works both ways, Your strategy of ground pound the moment she notices FRS requires her to know the jutsu. Also i'm still not getting why naruto's clones aren't getting near her. You've said it many times but have really given no real solid explanation other that her ground pound.

Assuming she would ground pound to begin with, As you mentioned she only did it to deal with a mass number of enemies, Doubt she would do so for what 2 or so clones?

Neither summoning nor simply punching the ground at random is a likely opening for sakura.

Minato and Naruto are irrelevant but Naruto with kage bunshin + FTG would be far above base Minato.

How so?.

Minato has far faster base speed and reaction speeds and doesn't need clones to create a rasengan. I don't see base naruto beating Minato, Even with FTG

3 tomoe + CS2 Sasuke forced Itachi to use MS despite Itachi being more skilled and experienced.

Not a strong example, Sasuke had multiple power ups, Oro's chakra and Jutsu's and Cs2. Plus itachi never really had any intention of killing him in the first place.

Tsunade praises Sakura in that instance since Sakura had paved the way for Tsunade to completely heal him.

No proof of this.

Shikamaru's condiction had barely changed from the moment sakura started healing him to the point tsunade had arrived. Point stands tsunade healing him in an instant with one hand.

Sakura had a minute/minutes with the kyuubi's chakra cloak and basically achieved nothing.