[Theory] Sakura sage mode will happen

[boshans]

In today's chapter, it finaly got confirmed that Shikkotsu forest is the place of the slugs.

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What have we seen in the manga?

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There are three places that are famous. Even though they dont list the exact reason why, it is kinda obvious what the reason is. You can learn sage mode in those places.
The place of the frogs is listed. You can learn sage mode in there. The place of the snakes/dragons is listed, you can learn sage mode in there. What the 3 places have in common, is that you are able to learn sage mode there, if you match the requirements to handle the ability.

*Jiraiya from an old generation with toad sage mode.
*Naruto from the new generation with toad sage mode (perfecting it).

*Oro from the old generation who couldnt reach perfect snake sage mode
(he can use senjutsu chakra, which he can pour in curse seals).
*Kabuto from the new generation with snake sage mode (perfecting it).

*Obviously we need someone from the new generation with slug sage mode and the best person for that job is Sakura.
Even if Hashirama and/or Tsunade have slug sage mode (perfect and/or imperfect), the story still needs someone from the new generation with slug sage mode.

Sakura sage mode is incomming!

Possible arguments against it:

She doesnt have the Chakra reserves!

Well there are ways around it. First of all we dont know if Slug sage mode has different requirements.
Second of all, she has a huge amount of chakra right now with the Byakugo seal.
There might be ways to use her perfect chakra control to get around it.
Hashirama is nearby, who could aid in some way.
Tsunade is on her way too.
Naruto could give chakra from Kurama.

Even implants(DNA) could be a possiblity, although the Byakugo seal would probably already be a major ingredient to reach the sage mode I think.
Edit: Maybe Sakura already has senjutsu chakra in the Byakugo seal.
After all, Oro stored senjutsu chakra in seals (like in the curse seal), so it is possible that someone else uses something similar.

What do you think?

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It received very positive feedback, so I would like to provide a link to it as well and it complements the current thread.

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1. Every sage mode uses Nature chakra, there are no different requirements. All sage mode is is taking in nature chakra. It would be the same for every animal.
2. I don't think she can use the seal to balance out nature chakra. When you balance out nature chakra, you balance it with your own chakra in your system. The seal has chakra stored on her forehead, and she can only release it, I don't think she can just draw out chakra from it, besides from using Byakugou, Souzuo Saisei, and Katsuyu. Plus I doubt it's enough to balance out nature chakra. She would have to have the same chakra reserves as naruto, I don't think even with the seal she would. She had the least amount of chakra out of everyone to begin with, her storing some chakra for 3 years ever I don't think would match Naruto. Plus she already used a whole bunch from the seal to summon Katsuyu and to heal everyone already.
3.No, it doesn't matter how much chakra control she has, if she doesn't have enough total regular chakra to balance out the nature chakra, she can't enter it, no amount of control can make her have more chakra.
4.What the hell could Hashi do? Nothing, it's not like he can give her chakra or something. Nothing can help her besides having Naruto levels of chakra to enter sage mode.
5.Same with Tsunade, she can't help just like Hashi can't help.
6. That won't work, it wouldn't be her own chakra, nature chakra mixes with your own chakra, Kurama's chakra wouldn't help with sage mode. Kurama's cloak is basically just chakra they can use from the outside of their own body you can say, that wouldn't work really with sage mode, it has to mix personal+nature chakra for sage mode, not an outside source.

She's not going to get any DNA, Hashi is there, but that doesn't mean he is in his own body, he doesn't have his own DNA. Edo's don't bleed, and they don't have their own skin or blood, there is no DNA to give. There is no senjutsu chakra in her seal, she would have turned into a slug. she doesn't have enough chakra.

Although Kishi obviously does whatever he wants and disregards anything he previously said, so who knows, he could do it anyway. If he does it will be ****ing retarded though and will piss off a lot of people, not because it's Sakura, but because he would be disregarding everything he said about sage mode in the past. Pa the frog said only Jiraiya and Naruto could use sage mode, he obviously knew about Tsunade, and didn't say she had enough chakra either, and obviously Tsunade has Byakugou also. And Sakura obviously has a lot less chakra than Tsunade.

 

[Voidstep]

why do you want them with sage mode!?!? have you even considered it can just be a different form, not necessarily the same as in the others forests!?!?

they have byakugou, which we already saw that is connected with the slugs. probably only who has contract with them can use it.
it gives super strength (like sage mode also does), but instead of the other SM abilities, it gives rapid healing instead.

also, don't think she has mastered byakugou. probably it can get stronger if she releases the seal (like Tsunade) gaining a boost in healing/strength, but that runs out faster.

 

[Ryuujin759]

1. Every sage mode uses Nature chakra, there are no different requirements. All sage mode is is taking in nature chakra. It would be the same for every animal.
2. I don't think she can use the seal to balance out nature chakra. When you balance out nature chakra, you balance it with your own chakra in your system. The seal has chakra stored on her forehead, and she can only release it, I don't think she can just draw out chakra from it, besides from using Byakugou, Souzuo Saisei, and Katsuyu. Plus I doubt it's enough to balance out nature chakra. She would have to have the same chakra reserves as naruto, I don't think even with the seal she would. She had the least amount of chakra out of everyone to begin with, her storing some chakra for 3 years ever I don't think would match Naruto. Plus she already used a whole bunch from the seal to summon Katsuyu and to heal everyone already.
3.No, it doesn't matter how much chakra control she has, if she doesn't have enough total regular chakra to balance out the nature chakra, she can't enter it, no amount of control can make her have more chakra.
4.What the hell could Hashi do? Nothing, it's not like he can give her chakra or something. Nothing can help her besides having Naruto levels of chakra to enter sage mode.
5.Same with Tsunade, she can't help just like Hashi can't help.
6. That won't work, it wouldn't be her own chakra, nature chakra mixes with your own chakra, Kurama's chakra wouldn't help with sage mode. Kurama's cloak is basically just chakra they can use from the outside of their own body you can say, that wouldn't work really with sage mode, it has to mix personal+nature chakra for sage mode, not an outside source.

She's not going to get any DNA, Hashi is there, but that doesn't mean he is in his own body, he doesn't have his own DNA. Edo's don't bleed, and they don't have their own skin or blood, there is no DNA to give. There is no senjutsu chakra in her seal, she would have turned into a slug. she doesn't have enough chakra.

Although Kishi obviously does whatever he wants and disregards anything he previously said, so who knows, he could do it anyway. If he does it will be ****ing retarded though and will piss off a lot of people, not because it's Sakura, but because he would be disregarding everything he said about sage mode in the past. Pa the frog said only Jiraiya and Naruto could use sage mode, he obviously knew about Tsunade, and didn't say she had enough chakra either, and obviously Tsunade has Byakugou also. And Sakura obviously has a lot less chakra than Tsunade.

This,
wouldn't make sense for her to get it specially because...
1. It takes time to get SM, you have to go train by yourself. You don't get it just because you think very hard.
2. She doesn't have the body. You need a high natural chakra pool, it doesn't matter how good you are with it.

So if anything, Tsunade should be shown to be able to do it first. She has much better chances. But either way if any of those 2 have it then it would be an Asspull specially Sakura since there was never enough time. INb4 new forced flashbacks...

But anyway............. Kishi doesn't give a **** about logic, he stopped caring about the plot quality long ago............

 

[Meowazziel]

1. Every sage mode uses Nature chakra, there are no different requirements. All sage mode is is taking in nature chakra. It would be the same for every animal.
2. I don't think she can use the seal to balance out nature chakra. When you balance out nature chakra, you balance it with your own chakra in your system. The seal has chakra stored on her forehead, and she can only release it, I don't think she can just draw out chakra from it, besides from using Byakugou, Souzuo Saisei, and Katsuyu. Plus I doubt it's enough to balance out nature chakra. She would have to have the same chakra reserves as naruto, I don't think even with the seal she would. She had the least amount of chakra out of everyone to begin with, her storing some chakra for 3 years ever I don't think would match Naruto. Plus she already used a whole bunch from the seal to summon Katsuyu and to heal everyone already.
3.No, it doesn't matter how much chakra control she has, if she doesn't have enough total regular chakra to balance out the nature chakra, she can't enter it, no amount of control can make her have more chakra.
4.What the hell could Hashi do? Nothing, it's not like he can give her chakra or something. Nothing can help her besides having Naruto levels of chakra to enter sage mode.
5.Same with Tsunade, she can't help just like Hashi can't help.
6. That won't work, it wouldn't be her own chakra, nature chakra mixes with your own chakra, Kurama's chakra wouldn't help with sage mode. Kurama's cloak is basically just chakra they can use from the outside of their own body you can say, that wouldn't work really with sage mode, it has to mix personal+nature chakra for sage mode, not an outside source.

She's not going to get any DNA, Hashi is there, but that doesn't mean he is in his own body, he doesn't have his own DNA. Edo's don't bleed, and they don't have their own skin or blood, there is no DNA to give. There is no senjutsu chakra in her seal, she would have turned into a slug. she doesn't have enough chakra.

Although Kishi obviously does whatever he wants and disregards anything he previously said, so who knows, he could do it anyway. If he does it will be ****ing retarded though and will piss off a lot of people, not because it's Sakura, but because he would be disregarding everything he said about sage mode in the past. Pa the frog said only Jiraiya and Naruto could use sage mode, he obviously knew about Tsunade, and didn't say she had enough chakra either, and obviously Tsunade has Byakugou also. And Sakura obviously has a lot less chakra than Tsunade.

1. I am not saying that slug sage mode doesnt take in Nature chakra, but the different sage modes, can be a tad different.
Slugs can split up for example, so maybe it is possible to take in little amounts of nature chakra and split up tasks so to speak.

2. Jiraiya didnt have the same chakra reserves as Naruto and he could do sage mode.
It is possible that the Byakugo seal is enough for chakra.

3. Control could help in fusing with a slug, an argument that I havent listed yet in the opening post. Just as Jiraiya fused with ma and pa toad and besides, control is still used to balance out the chakra.

4, 5 and 6. Tsunade gave Onoki chakra to help him getting enough chakra to use a jinton and a very powerful one even.
You never know what kind of jutsus, tricks, tips and whatnot someone can give to someone else.

You dont know what kind of DNA has been implanted in the past maybe before the war.

Kishi talked about the sage mode of the frogs. He only listed Jiraiya and Naruto, but if he wanted to list everyone, he should have listed all possible sage mode users, more frog users, some snake users, some slug users, but he didnt. He only talked about the frogs and named the ppl we know that could do frog sage mode.
So he wouldnt contradict himself or anything like that if Tsunade or others can do it too.
Besides, he could introduce new ways to reach the goal.
Vegeta managed to become ssj through a different path than Goku (maybe not the best comparison though).

I understand your points, but I feel like Kishi has enough freedom left with the subject sage mode, to make it happen if he wants to. The story develops in a way that it could fit in.

This,
wouldn't make sense for her to get it specially because...
1. It takes time to get SM, you have to go train by yourself. You don't get it just because you think very hard.
2. She doesn't have the body. You need a high natural chakra pool, it doesn't matter how good you are with it.

So if anything, Tsunade should be shown to be able to do it first. She has much better chances. But either way if any of those 2 have it then it would be an Asspull specially Sakura since there was never enough time. INb4 new forced flashbacks...

But anyway............. Kishi doesn't give a **** about logic, he stopped caring about the plot quality long ago............

Who said you get it because you think hard?

We didnt knew that Sakura had been training to do Byakugo seal for 3 years either.
So who knows for what kind of things she has been training as well.

Naruto surpassed Jiraiya in the sage mode ability. Not because Naruto had more chakra, but because he was just better at learning the ablity. So why cant Sakura, who is great at learning techniques, be better at it than Tsunade who has more chakra than Sakura?

Rest of the answers are in the reply above in this post.

why do you want them with sage mode!?!? have you even considered it can just be a different form, not necessarily the same as in the others forests!?!?

they have byakugou, which we already saw that is connected with the slugs. probably only who has contract with them can use it.
it gives super strength (like sage mode also does), but instead of the other SM abilities, it gives rapid healing instead.

also, don't think she has mastered byakugou. probably it can get stronger if she releases the seal (like Tsunade) gaining a boost in healing/strength, but that runs out faster.

That could be true. That Byakugo is the slug power and sage mode the snake and frog power. Definitely possible.
Although Hashi could have slug sage mode and that would mean the slugs have one too.

 

[Honord Sage]

In all Sage modes you need to learn to control natural energy and in order to do that you need to be born with large chakra reserves, Sakura dose not have large chakra reserves that ends the argument right their Stamp it on with large red letters REJECTED! By inspector number 5.

 

[SIR HERDERP PRESIDERP SDO]

Well, like Naruto and Kabuto, Sakura needs to train Slug SM in order to use it, but she's pretty occupied right now with the battle.

 

[Meowazziel]

In all Sage modes you need to learn to control natural energy and in order to do that you need to be born with large chakra reserves, Sakura dose not have large chakra reserves that ends the argument right their Stamp it on with large red letters REJECTED! By inspector number 5.

Kabuto was not born with large chakra reserves and he managed to do snake sage mode by finding ways around it and increase his chakra. Why wouldnt stuff like Byakugo seal or other ways, work for slug sage mode on Sakura?

Well, like Naruto and Kabuto, Sakura needs to train Slug SM in order to use it, but she's pretty occupied right now with the battle.

If she never trained for it, than it is not likely to happen, but we didnt know that she trained for Byakugo seal either and she has learned that ability too .

 

[Honord Sage]

Kabuto was not born with large chakra reserves and he managed to do snake sage mode by finding ways around it and increase his chakra. Why wouldnt stuff like Byakugo seal or other ways, work for slug sage mode on Sakura?
If she never trained for it, than it is not likely to happen, but we didnt know that she trained for Byakugo seal either and she has learned that ability too .

Were did you get Kabuto was not born with large chakra reserves from?

 

[Meowazziel]

Were did you get Kabuto was not born with large chakra reserves from?

From here:
It talks about how Kabuto used several ways of increasing his chakra up to sage mode lvl (meaning it wasnt high enough before, meaning he wasnt born with large enough chakra reserves for sage mode).

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Due to this assimilation, Kabuto's chakra reserves have increased tremendously. A testament to this was his ability to summon and control dozens of reincarnated ninja at one time for up to two days, and summon Manda II, a snake even larger than Manda. As a result his chakra reserves became large enough that he was able to enter Sage Mode. After capturing Anko and absorbing Orochimaru's residual senjutsu chakra from her cursed seal, he became even more powerful.

 

[GrayParadise]

Slug Sage Mode doesn't exist, deal with it.

 

[xcoyote]

hmm so Sakura goes into Sage Mode just to use the Naruto/Sasuke save me no jutsu??

 

[Meowazziel]

hmm so Sakura goes into Sage Mode just to use the Naruto/Sasuke save me no jutsu??

Sakura going ''save me help!!'' is far in the past. You know that.
She can complement Sasuke and Naruto very well.

Things I can imagine that her sage mode could do. Kishi could come up with:
Acid spit, splitting up just as Katsuyu (giving better defences as well), strength, her jutsus becoming better, strength speed, healing and range of abilities increased and possibly finaly a genjutsu (Kakashi mentioning in part 1 that Sakura has genjutsu talent).

 

[Isabel]

Would be nice... but that would be one hell of a power up, everything at once and before she didn't do anything makes one wonder were all her abilities come from all of a sudden!

 

[Honord Sage]

Right now they're only Toad Sage Mode, Dragon Sage Mode, And First Hokage Sage Mode. What do all this Sage Modes have in common? Use of Natural Energy by having Large Chakra Reserves by the User under thees rules Sakura dose not qualify for any form of Sage Mode.

 

[jdasprawler]

It would be an ass pull at this moment, if there was a moment for side/support characters becoming stronger it would be as the series go, not at the final freaking arc!

The only power ups (for non naruto/sasuke characters) I would find acceptable would either be an upgrade to a jutsu they know (see Hinata) or a new jutsu that isn't god tier (kiba's kage bunshin).

 

[Meowazziel]

Right now they're only Toad Sage Mode, Dragon Sage Mode, And First Hokage Sage Mode. What do all this Sage Modes have in common? Use of Natural Energy by having Large Chakra Reserves by the User under thees rules Sakura dose not qualify for any form of Sage Mode.

As I explained to you and showed, Kabuto lacked large chakra reserves as well (post #29). But he found ways to increase it. This means, that with Sakura her Byakugo seal and/or with some other way, she could achieve this too. Not having large enough chakra reserves is not something that would hold her back. Those could be achievable. So if Kishi wants it to happen, he could easily use the Byakugo seal and/or something else as a way of her achieving large chakra reserves.

Would be nice... but that would be one hell of a power up, everything at once and before she didn't do anything makes one wonder were all her abilities come from all of a sudden!

Maybe one can look at it in a way as Sakura having been doing several types of training for abilities and she couldnt show them yet in the past, cause she hadnt finished mastering them yet.

She is like a flower that builds up to the stage that it finaly blooms, but might not look really impressive before that has happened. The build up stage is the training. The blooming is what is happening with Sakura right now, showing the fruits of her training.