Sakura immune to poison

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No....
They don't become irrelevant because they're still damaging the body.

We've already covered how they would damage the body and why they won't. Eventually having that many maligned cells will lead to cancer (when healthy cells begin to attack irregular ones). But that's for another day
 

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We've already covered how they would damage the body and why they won't. Eventually having that many maligned cells will lead to cancer (when healthy cells begin to attack irregular ones). But that's for another day



No we haven't. You didn't say anything about what happens to the cells affected by poison.
That's not even what cancer is.....smh. Cancer its when the body creates irregular cells. If sakura or tsunade used yin seal they'd only speed up the cancer since their forcing the body to make more cells(which will end up being irregular)
Azr explained it better than I did. If you want to deny manga fact or make stuff up go ahead.
 
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No we haven't. You didn't say anything about what happens to the cells affected by poison.
Azr explained it better than I did. If you want to deny manga fact or make stuff up go ahead.

We did, I respect you as a debater. So I'm not gonna to go re read, but maybe take another look so you can get a better angle on it

And I think this crude example can help make it a little easier:

It's almost like HIV you can have it in your body without it doing anything significantly bad,

The bad that it's supposed to do, is ensure they don't do what there supposed to do, but what they are supposed to do is being done so where is the bad coming from
 

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It has nothing to do with time just the effect of the poison.
If a poison causes paralysis by shutting down the nervous system why would the reproduction of cells negate that?
If anything it just spreads the effect faster.

Why would a regeneration technique duplicate the damaged cells? Tsunade stated in part1 that the Sozo Saizei restores her cells to their previous, undamaged state.
 

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Yes, and if not, she can always just cut herself, manually remove it, and heal.
 

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We did, I respect you as a debater. So I'm not gonna to go re read, but maybe take another look so you can get a better angle on it

And I think this crude example can help make it a little easier:

It's almost like HIV you can have it in your body without it doing anything significantly bad,

The bad that it's supposed to do, is ensure they don't do what there supposed to do, but what they are supposed to do is being done so where is the bad coming from

Hiv isn't a poison though. its a virus. It's nature is to replicate itself by destroying white blood cells. So even that example isn't a good one.
Unless the poison only destroys the cells it comes in contact with the yin seal isn't negating nor removing poison.

I much like many others have listed and mentioned poisons that have effects other than destroying cells.
 

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Hiv isn't a poison though. its a virus. It's nature is to replicate itself by destroying white blood cells. So even that example isn't a good one.
Unless the poison only destroys the cells it comes in contact with the yin seal isn't negating nor removing poison.

I much like many others have listed and mentioned poisons that have effects other than destroying cells.

..the point of that crude example was just to help you see you can have dangerous things like that in your body without it actually needing to do something harmful.

Just about all the earlier mentioned ones affected the cells at the root one way or another
 

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Why would a regeneration technique duplicate the damaged cells? Tsunade stated in part1 that the Sozo Saizei restores her cells to their previous, undamaged state.

No she didn't. The technique doesn't restore cells it forces the body to make new ones at a accelerated rate. Cancer its when the body crates irregular cells if all she's doing is forcing the body to create more cells it will continue doing what it was before and create more irregulars.
 

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No she didn't. The technique doesn't restore cells it forces the body to make new ones at a accelerated rate. Cancer its when the body crates irregular cells if all she's doing is forcing the body to create more cells it will continue doing what it was before and create more irregulars.

No, it won't create irregular cells. When Madara roasted Tsunade, the Byakugou duplicated only her healthy cells and not the burned ones.

She stated it. Give me some time to find the original translation or the databook.


 

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..the point of that crude example was just to help you see you can have dangerous things like that in your body without it actually needing to do something harmful.

Just about all the earlier mentioned ones affected the cells at the root one way or another

It is doing something harmful. Your body needs white blood cells(the forefront of the immune system to fen off other diseases and sicknesses. Ppl with hiv have to take pills to restore their white blood cell count. Even worse when it's aids.

No. Some poisons effect neurotransmitters which is at a scale smaller than cells. Reproduction of cells won't change the effects it has on said transmitters. But that's just one example.
 

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..the point of that crude example was just to help you see you can have dangerous things like that in your body without it actually needing to do something harmful.

Just about all the earlier mentioned ones affected the cells at the root one way or another

It is doing something harmful. Your body needs white blood cells(the forefront of the immune system to fen off other diseases and sicknesses. Ppl with hiv have to take pills to restore their white blood cell count. Even worse when it's aids.

No. Some poisons effect neurotransmitters which is at a scale smaller than cells. Reproduction of cells won't change the effects it has on said transmitters. But that's just one example.
 

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No, it won't create irregular cells. When Madara roasted Tsunade, the Byakugou duplicated only her healthy cells and not the burned ones.

She stated it. Give me some time to find the original translation or the databook.



Why would it duplicate burned cells? Especially when said burned cells were originally created in a healthy state? The body isn't the reason why the cells got burned. It was a external heat source.
Cancer on the other hand is when the body crates bad cells. Studies show its hereditary so chances are it has to do with your genetic makeup.
 

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Why would it duplicate burned cells? Especially when said burned cells were originally created in a healthy state? The body isn't the reason why the cells got burned. It was a external heat source.
Cancer on the other hand is when the body crates bad cells. Studies show its hereditary so chances are it has to do with your genetic makeup.

Cancer isn't a poison.
And the pinnacle of the ****ING MEDICAL NINJUTSU would never create damaged cells. Ever. I don't even know why are you trying to apply real life logic here.

The damage being an external source here is completely irrelevant.
 
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Cancer isn't a poison.
And the pinnacle of the ****ING MEDICAL NINJUTSU would never create damaged cells. Ever. I don't even know why are you trying to apply real life logic here.

The damage being an external source here is completely irrelevant.

The lengths people go to are so dang funny. Bottom line is no level of poisons shown in the manga can't be done away with by byakugou no jutsu. End of story.. Lol cancer that's a good one
 

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Cancer isn't a poison.
And the pinnacle of the ****ING MEDICAL NINJUTSU would never create damaged cells. Ever. I don't even know why are you trying to apply real life logic here.

The damage being an external source here is completely irrelevant.

I'm fully aware of that. I never said it was. I was only giving an example of a situation where the yin seal wouldn't be helpful.

She already stated how yin seal functions. Using chakra she stimulates specific enzymes that hastens the reproduction of cells in the body. Cancer is when the body creates irregular cells. The jutsu isn't creating the cells just forcing the enzymes that create cells to create more.

If said enzymes created bad cells(cancer) it would only make more.

But alas none of that matters since cancer isn't a poison.
 
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If it's the sort of poison that eats away at cells then she should be able to tank it for a while. There are poisons that do other things though. The poison might knock her out, or have negative effects that have nothing to do with cells being destroyed.
 

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If it's the sort of poison that eats away at cells then she should be able to tank it for a while. There are poisons that do other things though. The poison might knock her out, or have negative effects that have nothing to do with cells being destroyed.

No. Since its the PINNACLE OF MEDICAL NINJUTSU such poisons don't exist.
 
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