[Discussion] Sakura Haruno blew it

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The Kohna 11 have grown up with the exception of Sakura who still has the child look on Sasuke,even Ino who cried about going after Sasuke in the Kage summit grow up knowing Sasuke must be stop. Sakura still has the rose color glasses on about Sasuke She has not come to the realization that a different Sasuke exist now,even if Sasuke turns goof He is not the Sasuke of team 7 She loved. Wake up Sakura the world is passing you by.
 

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Meh I do agree to some extent on some peoples beliefs on Sakura.

Yes she is loyal to some extent as well, however people have to remember when Sasuke was about to leave Konoha she did volunteer to go with him so it's alright defending her saying she's loyal, smart etc when some of her actions have proven these statements false.

However it's also wrong to say she's weak as Sakura relies heavily on Taijutsu alone she doesn't have techniques like Sasuke or Naruto so obviously it's going to limit her combat ability.

All in all my take on Sakura would be she's really shallow when it comes to romance and can be annoying and a bitch however she can be kind and is also smart...do her pro's and cons equal each other out who knows I'm sure Kishi will develop her later.
First, the Sasuke leaving part -

It was loyal, but totally stupid. She would have gotten killed. If she was lucky enough to make it to the hideout, Oro would have dropped her at the door.

Then her abilities-

Her combat is starting to become worthless now. With the current enemys her only pro is medical jutsu. Something she should be the queen of back when Naruto acquired sage mode. She hasn't even touch Tsunade as far as far as healing goes. *Her biggest problem* If talking and healing is her only strength, then yeah she's gonna catch hell on forums all the time. She is a "Ninja" after all which leads to another problem I have with Sakura but that's for another day.

Then its her character-

Her personality is totally fine. That Tsun-dere thing is okay with me.
 
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I hated Sakura in Part 1 but in Shippuden she has proven to be intelligent, useful, and caring. Yes she does treat Naruto like a child on occasion (when he acts like one) but for the most part she has supported him all the way.

What I hate about her (and Ino) is that she's still a Sasuke freak after all this time...
 

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I do want to comment on the Sakura passing Tsunade point.

That alone is the problem.

When part one ended, Naruto Sasuke and Sakura were supposed to be the next sannin if you will.

Naruto surpassed j-man by leaps and bounds and moved on to surpassing hashi.

Sasuke surpassed oro by leaps and bounds and moved on to surpassing Madara if you will.

Sakura couldn't defeat Tsunade STILL and shows NO SIGNS OF EVER DOING SO.
We havent seen her doing anything much so you cant really say that, Naruto didn't technically surpass jiraya until pain arc which is not that long ago in naruworld, sasuke idk what is up with him he 'killed' oro already but that didn't work out but i will say hes surpassed him. If its going to happen to Sakura now is the perfect time esp if Tsunade dies, it is defo time for Sakura to be stepping up to the plate, shes not suppose to be fighting who says she doesnt have a technique or some hidden thing she has been working on??

I don't think her showing off a new techique without build up out of the ordinary the flash back could happen during the revealing of it.
 

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My point is is that if you pick who Naruto got his personality from, it'd be his mom without question. Looks he got from his dad obviously.
Hmm.... Anyways about this u replied to Melanee that naruto won't end up neither for both.. I agree with you about it

I guess kishi gave a narusaku moment and gave a Naurhina moment ATM

So he won't make his fans get disappointed.... I'm a narusaku though
 

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We havent seen her doing anything much so you cant really say that, Naruto didn't technically surpass jiraya until pain arc which is not that long ago in naruworld, sasuke idk what is up with him he 'killed' oro already but that didn't work out but i will say hes surpassed him. If its going to happen to Sakura now is the perfect time esp if Tsunade dies, it is defo time for Sakura to be stepping up to the plate, shes not suppose to be fighting who says she doesnt have a technique or some hidden thing she has been working on??

I don't think her showing off a new techique without build up out of the ordinary the flash back could happen during the revealing of it.
That's the thing. I can make that statement because she hasn't done anything to this point in time. And this Manga has hit its climax and now she's gonna start evolving? A main character???

Naruto-

J-Man didn't perfect Sage mode while Naruto did. He surpassed him as he should of. And the thing is...

Naruto's abilities now would totally fodder his abilities at pain arc. That's how much's he's evolved.

Sasuke-

He surpassed Oro once he got his MS. Then he gets Susanoo...then it evolves over and over again. Now Sasuke is a one man army with his EMS and Amaterasu wielding Susanoo...and this EMS Susanoo isn't done evolving. His past self wouldn't stand a chance.

Sakura-

I just don't see what she can have under her sleeve at this point. And even if she did for argument sake-

A. It would be a total a$$pull by Kishi.
B. She still wouldn't surpass her current sensei Tsunade in Medical and strength...and if she did, it be an even greater a$$pull.

And her stepping up. Again to what? Her entire development has been based on Sasuke believe it or not. She gonna get an upgrade and fight on par with who? Sasuke? Obito? Madara? Oro? ten tail? Are you kidding me?

Its too late for that. Her only strength will be TNJ and Healing. That's the honest truth.
 
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Hmm.... Anyways about this u replied to Melanee that naruto won't end up neither for both.. I agree with you about it

I guess kishi gave a narusaku moment and gave a Naurhina moment ATM

So he won't make his fans get disappointed.... I'm a narusaku though
It wouldn't be the first time a Mangaka punked out and took the safe route. *be with no one and end show.*
 
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That's the thing. I can make that statement because she hasn't done anything to this point in time. And this Manga has hit its climax and now she's gonna start evolving? A main character???

Naruto-

J-Man didn't perfect Sage mode while Naruto did. He surpassed him as he should of. And the thing is...

Naruto's abilities now would totally fodder his abilities at pain arc. That's how much's he's evolved.

Sasuke-

He surpassed Oro once he got his MS. Then he gets Susanoo...then it evolves over and over again. Now Sasuke is a one man army with his EMS and Amaterasu wielding Susanoo...and this EMS Susanoo isn't done evolving. His past self wouldn't stand a chance.

Sakura-

I just don't see what she can have under her sleeve at this point. And even if she did for argument sake-

A. It would be a total a$$pull by Kishi.
B. She still wouldn't surpass her current sensei Tsunade in Medical and strength...and if she did, it be an even greater a$$pull.

And her stepping up. Again to what? Her entire development has been based on Sasuke believe it or not. She gonna get an upgrade and fight on par with who? Sasuke? Obito? Madara? Oro? ten tail? Are you kidding me?

Its too late for that. Her only strength will be TNJ and Healing. That's the honest truth.
Well even if it is an 'asspull' i didn't expect it to work miracles for her, not as overpowered as naruto and sasuke are. Tsunade is probably the weakest of the 3 sanin, i don't see why Sakura couldn't fall into the same positioning, however oro and jiraya arent that much stronger than her if you ask me if we compare to sasuke naruto and sakura.

Whatever her powerup will be if it surpasses Tsunade she will probably fall somewhere in there like Tsunade does with j-man and oro. Sakura doesn't have to powerup to fight anyone in particular if you ask me it would be nice but theres noone for her to but it will be really dumb if kishi is letting all these people surpass their masters/parents w/e and Sakura is left in the dust.

I just think all the little hints of ways she could surpass tsunade will just have been a waste if she doesn't. And i wouldn't be very happy about that because she is one of my favorite characters and i wouldn't like her to have been the only sanin student to have 'failed' in a sense.
 

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ok, Sakura won't be getting a power-up.
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Kishi wrote her to be the human part of the story. That is why Sakura is always helpless and having to be saved by everyone. becuase Kishi wanted a human essence to the story.
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Sakura is human weakness, which is a crucial part in any story.
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that is what Kishi was leaning on Sakura to be crucial to the story
 

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ok, Sakura won't be getting a power-up.
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Kishi wrote her to be the human part of the story. That is why Sakura is always helpless and having to be saved by everyone. becuase Kishi wanted a human essence to the story.
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Sakura is human weakness, which is a crucial part in any story.
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that is what Kishi was leaning on Sakura to be crucial to the story
I don't see why he made her main character then even if it is a cruicial part of the story, and i think her weakness lies so much more in her emotions than anything, i think her assistance in the fight with the story and her medical prowess is far from regular human

I say emotional weakness because every acts as if noone in naruto should have feelings about anything, i guess they wouldnt have a problem killing off their dearest friend or family member
 

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Well even if it is an 'asspull' i didn't expect it to work miracles for her, not as overpowered as naruto and sasuke are. Tsunade is probably the weakest of the 3 sanin, i don't see why Sakura couldn't fall into the same positioning, however oro and jiraya arent that much stronger than her if you ask me if we compare to sasuke naruto and sakura.

Whatever her powerup will be if it surpasses Tsunade she will probably fall somewhere in there like Tsunade does with j-man and oro. Sakura doesn't have to powerup to fight anyone in particular if you ask me it would be nice but theres noone for her to but it will be really dumb if kishi is letting all these people surpass their masters/parents w/e and Sakura is left in the dust.

I just think all the little hints of ways she could surpass tsunade will just have been a waste if she doesn't. And i wouldn't be very happy about that because she is one of my favorite characters and i wouldn't like her to have been the only sanin student to have 'failed' in a sense.
You can call them overpowered if you want. Thing is, Sakura should have "BEEN" overpowered too. Whether it be Jutsu or whatever. Something.

J-Man and Orochimaru are way better shinobi than Tsunade. I'd hear your argument on J-man but Orochimaru? Just no.

Again no power up since she has no role in fighting anymore. Battle of the titans from here on out. She ain't one. No upgrade will make her one. Open and shut case.

Kishi has already DONE that. That being letting everyone pass Sakura. That what make her Kishi's biggest f**k up.

Now, at this point in story, there's no reason for her to surpass Tsunade. For who? For what? It'd be a waste of panel time at this point.

Is it a waste of a character? Sure. :D Should you be upset about it? Of course! But come on, think about it. We're on a head on collision to Sakura only knowing talk no Jutsu and healing.
 
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You can call them overpowered if you want. Thing is, Sakura should have "BEEN" overpowered too. Whether it be Jutsu or whatever. Something.

J-Man and Orochimaru are way better shinobi than Tsunade. I'd hear your argument on J-man but Orochimaru? Just no.

Again no power up since she has no role in fighting anymore. Battle of the titans from here on out. She ain't one. No upgrade will make her one. Open and shut case.

Kishi has already DONE that. That being letting everyone pass Sakura. That what make her Kishi's biggest f**k up.

Now, at this point in story, there's no reason for her to surpass Tsunade. For who? For what? It'd be a waste of panel time at this point.

Is it a waste of a character? Sure. :D Should you be upset about it? Of course! But come on, think about it. We're on a head on collision to Sakura only knowing talk no Jutsu and healing.


We all know its not her fault for not being overpowered it's just how it is, and i agree with you on the fact she has no fighting role anymore, but that doesnt mean she can't surpass tsunade in the medical field, she already has the CES, when you think about tsunade her fighting is based around her strength and integrating her medical techniques so i don't see why sakuras growth in medical knowledge couldn't make her a better fighter.

Everyone hasnt surpassed sakura, esp if you look at it from the k11 perspective and i don't call panel time for a main character a waste of panel. sorry.

Lastly its up to him whether he wants to waste a character, its more sadening that something to become upset about. If he doesnt power her up thats fine by me i mean if this really is the last arc and all if there was another i dont see why not.

I never liked her for her being 'strong' because she never was. Some people only cling to certain characters because they can solo and are 'epic' and whatever else.
 

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i agree sakura would've made a better side character. i mean if we just had all her good moments, i have no doubt that sakura would have no haters, remove her love for sasuke, remove her whinyness, and just have her appear to be the genius, an amazing medical studen, save naruto's life, save sasuke's life, save kunkuro's life, and others during the war.
no possible way sakura would be hated.
 

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We all know its not her fault for not being overpowered it's just how it is, and i agree with you on the fact she has no fighting role anymore, but that doesnt mean she can't surpass tsunade in the medical field, she already has the CES, when you think about tsunade her fighting is based around her strength and integrating her medical techniques so i don't see why sakuras growth in medical knowledge couldn't make her a better fighter.

Everyone hasnt surpassed sakura, esp if you look at it from the k11 perspective and i don't call panel time for a main character a waste of panel. sorry.

Lastly its up to him whether he wants to waste a character, its more sadening that something to become upset about. If he doesnt power her up thats fine by me i mean if this really is the last arc and all if there was another i dont see why not.

I never liked her for her being 'strong' because she never was. Some people only cling to certain characters because they can solo and are 'epic' and whatever else.
No, she really can't surpass Tsunade in the medical field cause again it would serve no purpose in Sakura's big picture. So why do it in the first place? For GP?

What you said about Tsunade is what makes her the weakest Hokage and Sannin by far. When Pain came to Konoha, she stood back and healed. I can't even think of ANY Kage that would do that...Any They be at least confronting Pain in a minute.

About the panel time. If panel time is wasted to a Sakura upgrade that would later prove to be useless, it would be worthless.

And finally, she even doesn't have to be strong. For a main character, she borderline irrelevant. Combine that with the fact that she is weak, its like WTF...

I could argue that Tsunade has develop more then Sakura in shippuden...and that's disturbing in itself.
 
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