[Question] Sai vs Sanji in a kicking match.
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Sai's attack is a combination of Hasshoken and Busoshoku Haki. It isn't a testament of strong Haki as it works in conjunction with something else.
Vergo's armament surpasses all we've seen in the New World bar (possibly) Doflamingo.
Chinjao's attack is a combination of that as well and we know for a fact he has strong busoshoku haki(on par with Luffy), yet Sai's could bent his strongest weapon with his own. It implies what it implies
I don't know that. Besides, Vergo wasn't even using armament against Sanji especially in that surprised attack
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Dead certain Vergo used Armament Haki, otherwise he'd be dead. You're seriously underestimating Sanji if you think he can't kill a man (without Haki), especially if he's using Diable Jambe.
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Kunbunshoku Haki -> "Ah, I'm about to get hit, better not die" -> Armament Haki to the head
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1. Kenbunshoku Haki is not visible
2. Vergo never displayed signs of giving sh*ts
3. Haki doesn't always turn black, it depends on how much Haki or the Strength of Haki he imbues
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1. Why wouldn't he have it after living in the New World for so long? Being a Vice Admiral requires you to possess both types of Haki anyways
2. Exactly. So this point amounted to nil.
3. Anyones can turn Black if they max it out.
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He wasn't. If he were, Sanji would have noticed it. Whats is worse is that the second time he actually kicked him, he basically implied he was using tekkai. Vergo never used armament during his clash against Sanji
Again compare the fighter sai and sanji fought before making such a ridiculous statement like that, just cause he was able to overpower someone like lao G, his armanent haki means shit compared to vergo, Vergo was able to tank smoker without using fullbody haki, and even though smoker was punching him around with his armanent it didnt do shit, thats how much of a tank vergo is, he didnt even use fullbody against smoker, Sai would get blitzed by vergo, considering what a slowpoke sai is, as I said before the only thing he got in his powerup is his strong kick nothing more or else, the others skills and stats are still average at best, and the moment sanji avoids that kick sai is not better than a sitting duck for sanji.
I guess you have a point on Vergo's durability(even outside armament) but no i wasn't saying his armament was strong because he overpowered Lao G. I think it's strong because it could overpower Chinjao's(who has armament haki on par with Luffy)
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How I see it is vergo is stronger then sai
When an injured body sanji was able to go blow to blow with him etc with his own legs granted be almost cracked one of them ... But that's mainly because nami damaged his body ... As seen in his confrontation with doffy the two clashed similar to how sanji and vergo clashed (on smaller scale ) and sanji leg was just fine. Doffy is stronger then vergo physically so if sanji is fine with him then the reason he hurt so badly against vergo is because of his weakened bodyy as the time
With this being said blow for blow just pure legs
Doffy>>>vergo>sanji>Sai
If u add haki feats of stronger haki etc
Doffy>=vergo>>sai>sanji (has shown no ardament)
If u add dj then by feats
Doffy>=vergo>>sai>=sanji dj
But yeah this is how I see it in terms of portrayal and feats
When an injured body sanji was able to go blow to blow with him etc with his own legs granted be almost cracked one of them ... But that's mainly because nami damaged his body ... As seen in his confrontation with doffy the two clashed similar to how sanji and vergo clashed (on smaller scale ) and sanji leg was just fine. Doffy is stronger then vergo physically so if sanji is fine with him then the reason he hurt so badly against vergo is because of his weakened bodyy as the time
With this being said blow for blow just pure legs
Doffy>>>vergo>sanji>Sai
If u add haki feats of stronger haki etc
Doffy>=vergo>>sai>sanji (has shown no ardament)
If u add dj then by feats
Doffy>=vergo>>sai>=sanji dj
But yeah this is how I see it in terms of portrayal and feats
Chinjo is ill and weakened, his head is not what it used to be on his prime days even though it was restored in the same form, chinjao said so here
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He cant fight the way he used to fight, his haki may be strong but not really on par with luffy, I think chinjao gave to luffy max mid-diff, but that wasnt the same chinjao here against sai, he was ill and out of shape.
Don't know why Vergo is in this thread but Sai is not in the same tier as Sanji.
1) Doffy underlings are fighting tournament guys
2) Stronger executives are fighting weaker strawhats
3) top executives are fighting top sh's allies (Law, Kyros) Zoro
4) And vergo would be even above that level
5) Doflamingo and Luffy are above that
So Sai is fighting on level 1 while Sanji atleast would be fighting 2 or 3 if he stayed on Dressrosa.
1) Doffy underlings are fighting tournament guys
2) Stronger executives are fighting weaker strawhats
3) top executives are fighting top sh's allies (Law, Kyros) Zoro
4) And vergo would be even above that level
5) Doflamingo and Luffy are above that
So Sai is fighting on level 1 while Sanji atleast would be fighting 2 or 3 if he stayed on Dressrosa.