Sai VS Kidomaru

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Location: Kidomaru VS Neji
Intel: None
Mindset: Serious (Kido wont be dícking around)

Scenario 1: Pre War Arc Sai (None of those kíckass War Arc feats allowed)
Scenario 2: War Arc Sai​
 
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Sai clearly. The powerscale from original, to Shippuden is too vast. Furthermore, Sai being an aerial combatant indefinitely solidifies his victory.

 

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Sai clearly. The powerscale from original, to Shippuden is too vast. Furthermore, Sai being an aerial combatant indefinitely solidifies his victory.

not really. Kimmimaro, zabuza, haku have all held their own as edo.

and in the forest sai isn't seeing kidomaru, Dr.Proof.
 

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not really. Kimmimaro, zabuza, haku have all held their own as edo.

and in the forest sai isn't seeing kidomaru, Dr.Proof.
The characters you've listed have all had showings in Shippuden, Kidomaru has not. Your point remains invalid.

Sai has shown to create explosive of massive proportions. This isn't debatable.

 
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Lol sai wins

He's special elite spy chosen by danzo himself. Use ink rats or snakes to find his location then finish(use clone to fool kido) as the real sai flanks him by surprise or engaged for game with beast scroll.
Kidomaru is more intelligent than Sai according to both feats and the databook, he wont be fooled as easily as you may think. He's sensed and countered several flanks in canon from multiple opponents.

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I swear, the Sound 4 are either overwanked or heavily underestimated by 99% of the base.
 
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The issue remains. Kidomaru, the sound ninja, and anyone in the original who haven't made cameos in Shippuden are burdened by the increase in powerscaling in Shippuden.

I agree in regards to Shippuden as a whole, however a quick look at the databook shows that these two really arent very far apart in early Shippuden. I personally think this fight could go either way and that Sai could definitely win, but I feel as if Kidomaru is being underrated. With superior stamina and intelligence (and only a minor handicap in speed), Kidomaru certainly has a chance at victory.
 
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I agree in regards to Shippuden as a whole, however a quick look at the databook shows that these two really arent very far apart in early Shippuden. I personally think this fight could go either way and that Sai could definitely win, but I feel as if Kidomaru is being underrated. With superior stamina and intelligence (and only a minor handicap in speed), Kidomaru certainly has a chance at victory.
The Facebook merely signifies tiers. A '3' in DB two, compared to a '3' in DB three are clearly incomparable.

Due to Shippuden's upscale in power, the 3rd Databook dwarfs those of the 2nd, simply because one is the original, and the other is Shippuden.

I've no real knowledge on either's feats truthfully. Merely this is an educated guess regarding the first scene.

 

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The characters you've listed have all had showings in Shippuden, Kidomaru has not. Your point remains invalid.

Sai has shown to create explosive of massive proportions. This isn't debatable.

edo doesn't magically make said characters stronger tho. So regardless of showings they're still they same as they were back in part 1.

He never leveled a forest. That's not debatable.
 

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and the forest is still there... and to top it off, if he got picked off by haku then kidomaru can definitely knock his ass out the sky.
 
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Kidomaru is more intelligent than Sai according to both feats and the databook, he wont be fooled as easily as you may think. He's sensed and countered several flanks in canon from multiple opponents.

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I swear, the Sound 4 are either overwanked or heavily underestimated by 99% of the base.
Lol but it is that easy if he has no counters for sai's ability. Only reason he last as long as he did with neji because the latter was close range fighter who lost LoS forcing him to remain on the defense repelling the spiders. Sai simply needs rat mimicry to locate then fly over, shunshin or dig under to his location then get rid of him with beast mimicry. If kido tries to dip then sai will bind him momentarily with the very rats he used to track him. Lol no. Slight adv Intelligence =/= immunity.
 

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Lol but it is that easy if he has no counters for sai's ability. Only reason he last as long as he did with neji because the latter was close range fighter who lost LoS forcing him to remain on the defense repelling the spiders. Sai simply needs rat mimicry to locate then fly over, shunshin or dig under to his location then get rid of him with beast mimicry. If kido tries to dip then sai will bind him momentarily with the very rats he used to track him. Lol no. Slight adv Intelligence =/= immunity.
how do rats lets him find kido
 

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He used it to quickly find the correct door to Sasuke's room.
lemme reread the chap.if he can use it that way he surely has more advantage than kido since he can just stay out of range and locate him

yes you are right.he did [ ]
 
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Lol but it is that easy if he has no counters for sai's ability. Only reason he last as long as he did with neji because the latter was close range fighter who lost LoS forcing him to remain on the defense repelling the spiders. Sai simply needs rat mimicry to locate then fly over, shunshin or dig under to his location then get rid of him with beast mimicry. If kido tries to dip then sai will bind him momentarily with the very rats he used to track him. Lol no. Slight adv Intelligence =/= immunity.
You truly make it seem like Sai will be the only one attacking while Kidomaru is just standing still. No. I made it perfectly clear in the OP that Kidomaru will take this seriously, he'll be pursuing Sai as much as Sai will be pursuing him. The difference being, Kidomaru thrives in this location while Sai is at a hindrance. You say that Kidomaru has no answer to Sai's abilities, but what are Sai's answers to (near) unbreakable webs and insanely accurate projectiles?

Sai is just going to shunshin over and kill him when Neji (who is faster than Sai) couldnt?

By "dig under to his location" Im assuming you mean the mole jutsu? How will he pop out from under him when they're in trees...?

A scan of Sai doing the bolded would be appreciated, pretty sure Sai has no way of binding Kidomaru who swings around like Spiderman.

Slight advantage in intelligence? The entire fight against Neji was strategical brilliance, intelligence feats for Sai would also be appreciated.
 
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hmmm if sai can uses bombs with rats;lions;snakes and birds why can't he find kido and blow him.Also he can hide inside earth and use ink clone on giant bird as a decoy to find kido's location
 
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